Total and Complete Victory

[gilliam]

Total and Complete Victory "Anything else is completely unthinkable"

IRAQI BLOGGER ALAA spells out what is at stake in Sunday’s elections.

All what the U.S. is expounding is anathema to these neighboring regimes (and others more far away): Democracy, freedom, standing up for the oppressed, the promotion of more enlightened and open political systems. Moreover; the hostility against these ideas are perfectly understandable from their point of view, since they spell death and doom to social systems based on tyranny, despotism , blind bias, arrogance and prejudice. …]

Moreover, no one should expect that the security situation and strife would somehow improve after the elections; it is more likely to intensify. …] The Iraqi people are up in arms through the political groupings, new army, N.G. and various security forces and are suffering the greater part of the sacrifice. Despite all the snags and faltering, these forces are getting bigger and stronger and should be supported and nurtured until they can bear the full responsibility; this is the only viable “exit strategy” available. In fact, we do not like this phrase, for what is required is a “victory strategy”. This war must be fought to the bitter end, and there is only one outcome acceptable both to us and to you: Total and Complete Victory. Anything else is completely unthinkable.

(Hat tip: King of Fools)

Also, don’t miss this compilation of Iraqi election broadcasts from the Middle East Media Research Institute.

indepundit.com/archive2/2005/01/total_and_compl_1.html#

 

[Dusan]

I hate war, police action, or whatever one may seek to call it, with all my being. My brother was killed in Korea, and him and I were very close. I was feeled with so much hatred for revenge, but I did not know how to retaliate. Uncle Sam solved my problem. I was drafted, shafted and rafted to Korea, which was my intention and desire.I am sorry to say, I killed many with great delight in my lust for revenge.I was no better than an animal, like many of my comrades. Did I solve anything? No! Over 50 plus years, I still have nightmares, especially when I see a war movie or things in Iraq or Afganistan. My brother is still dead, Korea is still divided and still shooting at each other. We could have marched through N. Korea and China with ease if we received the weapons and ammunitiion we needed. It was a police action, but for econmonics and wealth for big business.I carried my friends as they were dying, praying in the process that God would spare them. I did not pray for myself, but for my loving mother so that she would not have to suffer, losing another son. I should have been killed numerous times, but God protected me for my mother. Some wars are just, but some have no reason.If the people of our nation would pray as hard as our troops are fighting, we would have been victorious in Iraq, Afganistan and any other areas that we may be in combat.
I fear that our president and leaders have opened a can of worms. People in those areas are divided by their Islamic faith, Sunni and Shiites, and one wants to dominate the other. Total and complete victory can only be attained when we have a cause that is just. We will not resolve the problems between the different religious factions, because they have been fighting before the U.N., Nato or any other coalition forces went into the area. I did not like Saddam Hussein, nor could I hate him, but he did maintain a balance of power with his enemy, Iran.We can not and must not try to force on other countries and people, our form of government. They had kings and tyrants for years that are too numerous to count. By the grace of God, may victory be attained, but I fear it will not be a lasting one. The more we stick our noses into other areas, the more enemies we create. All this, because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. If we would all cease our different views for victory, and replace them with national prayer, then, and only then, God will become involved to the extent that victory will be attained in accordance with God’s way of bringing about peace.
As our Blessed Mother has stated so often, strong prayer will prevent and stop wars, but we are too proud or stupid to seek such an easy solution.
We better look at our own nation that is in total disarray, and is in need of change from liberalism in all facets of life.
We do not need arms to fight one another, but arms to embrace each other.
God Bless, Help and Protect America.
Dusan

 

[The_Barbarian]

We had total and complete victory. Our troops disposed of Saddam’s military in short order, with a high degree of professionalism and minimum casualties.

Politicians then threw that victory away by attempting to prove their pet theories of nation-building. It doesn’t work, it never works.

Almost all of our 4000 dead and tens of thousands of maimed, were casualties after the objective of total victory was obtained. If the politicians had heeded the generals, we’d have a stable Iraq as a counterbalance to Iran, and thousands of brave young troops would still be alive.

After we crushed Saddam’s army, we should have cleaned out the upper echelons of the Baath party, and then called in the mid-level leaders. “If you avoid doing a few things in the future, you can expect no more trouble from us.” And then leave, but keep an eye on them.

That works. “Building a democratic Iraq” is a fool’s mission. It will never work until the culture changes. And they must do that.

 

[buffalo]

We had total and complete victory. Our troops disposed of Saddam’s military in short order, with a high degree of professionalism and minimum casualties.

Politicians then threw that victory away by attempting to prove their pet theories of nation-building. It doesn’t work, it never works.

Almost all of our 4000 dead and tens of thousands of maimed, were casualties after the objective of total victory was obtained. If the politicians had heeded the generals, we’d have a stable Iraq as a counterbalance to Iran, and thousands of brave young troops would still be alive.

After we crushed Saddam’s army, we should have cleaned out the upper echelons of the Baath party, and then called in the mid-level leaders. “If you avoid doing a few things in the future, you can expect no more trouble from us.” And then leave, but keep an eye on them.

That works. “Building a democratic Iraq” is a fool’s mission. It will never work until the culture changes. And they must do that.

We need to stay there a slong as necessary so the nation will not collapse back into a dictatorship.

 

[The_Barbarian]

We need to stay there a slong as necessary so the nation will not collapse back into a dictatorship.

That will never happen, so long as we attempt to impose democracy by force. Foolish notion. If the culture doesn’t accept it, you cannot apply enough force to make it happen.

Athens, BTW tried this thousands of years ago. It failed. So will this attempt.

Eventually, we’ll get tired of throwing money and lives down a rathole, and we’ll leave. And a weakened Iraq will fall under the influence of Iran, and we’ll have strengthened our most implacable enemy in the world. And every month we spend in Iraq, we strengthen Iran more.

We are now between a rock and a hard place, thaks to the idiots who thought they knew more than our military leaders.