TOTAL Blasphemy in the Episcopal Church

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This looks like a good time to post this link:

t19backup.blogspot.com/

It’s the backup site for the link I posted some days ago, which still has server problems. It is, as I said, run by the Canon Theologian of the Diocese of South Carolina, a scholarly man, who is what might be considered a conservative in what the TEC is, these days. It provides articles and links showing a variety of reactions to the variety of things that TEC did in General Convention, to proclaim just what they are and where they stand.

Which may or may not be of interest, here.

GKC
this certainly makes a mess of things. i wonder if the Archbishop of Canterbury has given any response yet. there were many good articles to read there. they pretty much have set the stage for separation from the anglican communion i think. we will have to wait and see. i don’t understand how the female Bishop of the TEC says that schism is not a Christian thing to do when there is obviously a schism taking place.
 
These remarks are offered to the readers, since Gurneyhalleck claims to keep me on ignore.

The Episcopal church doesn’t “look down” on the African church and it is absurd and a lie to say that we have no use for it. Our parish partners with a African church and they visit us and we go to them with water filtration systems and other help. It is sheer vile lies to suggest what mr. Gurneyhalleck suggests. His hatred of all things liberal in the TEC is sad but well known to all of us. It is a shame that another human being must carry such hatred around day in and day out.

It simply bespeaks his utter anger and misery where he is apparently.

One may be against any number of things and I can respect that people have different beliefs that they sincerely hold. I would grant anyone that respect. But to deliberately spread lies and hatred and make fun of another denomination and its leadership by cruel jokes and funnery is beyond disgusting. Real people are involved in these decisions and they have the right to our respect if not our agreement with what they believe in and desire.

How anyone can claim to be a Christian and yet continue unrelenting to spew this outrageous personal vendetta is beyond me. I speak of many posts of course, not this one in particular. You will recall that earlier he claimed that the next presiding bishop in the TEC would be a cross dressing Dustin Hoffman. On other threads, which have since been closed because of his venom, he has made fun of the looks of our presiding bishop and the color of her vestments. The adminstrators here at least did us the curtesy of closing the threads. One can only hope that some sort of action will be taken against this type of uncivil, uncharitible and most UnChristian behavior.
the anglican communion in africa is very traditional and conservative. they do not approve of what is happening over here in America in TEC. so in a way, he is correct.
helping out with charity work is different, but if you are speaking about the doctrines and adhering to the gospel teachings, the TEC probably does see the anglican communion in africa as backward because they will not tolerate the liberal interpretation of the Bible.
the people in Africa are very religious. their religion means a lot to them. many new anglican churches starting out here are under the archbishops in africa - like in uganda and nigeria. so the anglican communion in africa is not on the side of the TEC in america.
 
this certainly makes a mess of things. i wonder if the Archbishop of Canterbury has given any response yet. there were many good articles to read there. they pretty much have set the stage for separation from the anglican communion i think. we will have to wait and see. i don’t understand how the female Bishop of the TEC says that schism is not a Christian thing to do when there is obviously a schism taking place.
The Archbishop of Canterbury, who was a guest speaker at General Convention, is very unhappy. But not very surprised.

The gracious Katherine has one definition of schism, the Communion another. And then there is apostasy.

GKC
 
The Archbishop of Canterbury, who was a guest speaker at General Convention, is very unhappy. But not very surprised.

The gracious Katherine has one definition of schism, the Communion another. And then there is apostasy.

GKC
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the anglican communion in africa is very traditional and conservative. they do not approve of what is happening over here in America in TEC. so in a way, he is correct.
helping out with charity work is different, but if you are speaking about the doctrines and adhering to the gospel teachings, the TEC probably does see the anglican communion in africa as backward because they will not tolerate the liberal interpretation of the Bible.
the people in Africa are very religious. their religion means a lot to them. many new anglican churches starting out here are under the archbishops in africa - like in uganda and nigeria. so the anglican communion in africa is not on the side of the TEC in america.
No in a way he is not correct at all, and I find his comments as usual highly offensive. Because people differ on doctrine doesn’t mean that anyone looks down on another or finds their thinking primitive. You have no basis for judging the relationship we have with our sister church. We work together, and we worship together, we visit back and forth several times a year and carry forth our ministry together, as we do with a sister parish in Scotland.

You say TEC “probably” sees, which indicates of course that you are guessing. And guessing about racist thinking is dangerous and uncalled for. There are many different voices in the African churches and it is improper and simplistic to paint such a broad brush. We are able to transcend differences in outlook more than the ultra orthodox wish or think is possible.

I will not keep from speaking out when people are cruel unnecessarily only to serve their own personal hatreds. It needs to be stopped. The forum for some reason seeks to stifle to a degree this conduct by closing threads when certain types get wholly out of hand, , but apparently will still protect its own and not censure such behavior.
 
This looks like a good time to post this link:

t19backup.blogspot.com/

It’s the backup site for the link I posted some days ago, which still has server problems. It is, as I said, run by the Canon Theologian of the Diocese of South Carolina, a scholarly man, who is what might be considered a conservative in what the TEC is, these days. It provides articles and links showing a variety of reactions to the variety of things that TEC did in General Convention, to proclaim just what they are and where they stand.

Which may or may not be of interest, here.

GKC
Thanks for the links. I am most interested to take a look at them. I doubt most of the Non-Anglican/Episcopalians are. Their point of starting these threads seems limited to giving them an opportunity to cast venom against those they don’t agree with, witness the pejorative nature of the thread title.

Sadly, the non-Catholic forum seems determined to be nothing more than a divisive finger pointing section rather than a place to actually discuss issues.
 
Thanks for the links. I am most interested to take a look at them. I doubt most of the Non-Anglican/Episcopalians are. Their point of starting these threads seems limited to giving them an opportunity to cast venom against those they don’t agree with, witness the pejorative nature of the thread title.

Sadly, the non-Catholic forum seems determined to be nothing more than a divisive finger pointing section rather than a place to actually discuss issues.
As an Evangelical Anglican, I certainly understand your perspective. The liberal wing of the Church tells us that God is love and therefore if we are united in love, we are in communion with God and with each other.

Yet you should also understand from our perspective that God is holy and just. We believe that the TEC is essentially mocking God and His Word. St. Paul is very clear in telling us not to have communion with an errant brother who will not listen to fraternal corrections.

The TEC is outside of orthodoxy on some very important issues (eg the uniqueness of Christ) and therefore outside of communion with the saints. I pray that it will return home soon.
 
Sadly, the non-Catholic forum seems determined to be nothing more than a divisive finger pointing section rather than a place to actually discuss issues.
Hmmm and what should I think of this comment?
Thanks for the links. I am most interested to take a look at them. I doubt most of the Non-Anglican/Episcopalians are. Their point of starting these threads seems limited to giving them an opportunity to cast venom against those they don’t agree with, witness the pejorative nature of the thread title.
Lets not condemn “finger pointing” by doing more of it. I read the links and have not cast any venom.

God bless
 
Thanks for the links. I am most interested to take a look at them. I doubt most of the Non-Anglican/Episcopalians are. Their point of starting these threads seems limited to giving them an opportunity to cast venom against those they don’t agree with, witness the pejorative nature of the thread title.

Sadly, the non-Catholic forum seems determined to be nothing more than a divisive finger pointing section rather than a place to actually discuss issues.
I, OTOH, consider the thread title to be an understatement worthy of an Anglican in its moderation.

GKC
 
No in a way he is not correct at all, and I find his comments as usual highly offensive. Because people differ on doctrine doesn’t mean that anyone looks down on another or finds their thinking primitive. You have no basis for judging the relationship we have with our sister church. We work together, and we worship together, we visit back and forth several times a year and carry forth our ministry together, as we do with a sister parish in Scotland.

You say TEC “probably” sees, which indicates of course that you are guessing. And guessing about racist thinking is dangerous and uncalled for. There are many different voices in the African churches and it is improper and simplistic to paint such a broad brush. We are able to transcend differences in outlook more than the ultra orthodox wish or think is possible.

I will not keep from speaking out when people are cruel unnecessarily only to serve their own personal hatreds. It needs to be stopped. The forum for some reason seeks to stifle to a degree this conduct by closing threads when certain types get wholly out of hand, , but apparently will still protect its own and not censure such behavior.
I suspect the subject harks back to Lambeth 1998, and some well known comments made about the Southern Primates, then.

GKC
 
No in a way he is not correct at all, and I find his comments as usual highly offensive. Because people differ on doctrine doesn’t mean that anyone looks down on another or finds their thinking primitive. You have no basis for judging the relationship we have with our sister church. We work together, and we worship together, we visit back and forth several times a year and carry forth our ministry together, as we do with a sister parish in Scotland.

You say TEC “probably” sees, which indicates of course that you are guessing. And guessing about racist thinking is dangerous and uncalled for. There are many different voices in the African churches and it is improper and simplistic to paint such a broad brush. We are able to transcend differences in outlook more than the ultra orthodox wish or think is possible.

I will not keep from speaking out when people are cruel unnecessarily only to serve their own personal hatreds. It needs to be stopped. The forum for some reason seeks to stifle to a degree this conduct by closing threads when certain types get wholly out of hand, , but apparently will still protect its own and not censure such behavior.
i don’t see anywhere in my post that was racist. when i reiterated what the other poster had sad about TEC seeing Africa as backward (he was using sarcasm) - i didn’t mean culturally, i was referring to their traditional belief in the Gospel and its teaching. they are very conservative and do not think that the Bible can be interpreted liberally as does the TEC.
i am very happy to hear that your church has a good relationship with one of the African anglican churches. that is positive. episcopalians are very good people. very giving.
i am basing my opinion on what i learned while being an anglican and seeing how the anglican churches are in Africa. i didn’t mean to sound cruel, and if i did i apologize.
 
As an Evangelical Anglican, I certainly understand your perspective. The liberal wing of the Church tells us that God is love and therefore if we are united in love, we are in communion with God and with each other.

Yet you should also understand from our perspective that God is holy and just. We believe that the TEC is essentially mocking God and His Word. St. Paul is very clear in telling us not to have communion with an errant brother who will not listen to fraternal corrections.

The TEC is outside of orthodoxy on some very important issues (eg the uniqueness of Christ) and therefore outside of communion with the saints. I pray that it will return home soon.
The only problem is that there are plenty of Orthodox Episcopal Churches out there that want to open the dialog. I heard a Methodist pastor put it this way last Christmas and I tend to agree with him. It is not about who gets the right theology. God does not require that. The only thing that God requires is that we believe that God sent God’s son to die for us.
Now I read earlier post that said that the orthodox Anglicans should run to Rome. The only problem I have with that is that the last time I visited a Roman Catholic Church I had one person speak to me. And that was an older lady who had dropped her umbrella and I picked it up for her. I value a church where I can actually talk to people and actually participate in the life of the church. Not one where the only words you hear are thank you for picking this up for me.
 
I have you on ignore, SpiritMeadow], but saw your post in the reply of another poster so what the heck, I’ll respond…

“Personal vendettas, hatred, spewing, venom, uncharitable, uncivil, bespeaks his utter anger and misery” wow, it’s funny how you’re the upbeat, perky, positive “spiritmeadow” that oozes tranquility and peace, kindness and love, and yet look at all the adjectives you had for me. If you’re so holy and enlightened, why use this vocabulary to describe this horrible guy, Gurney? It seems your lexicon is quite full of nasty put-downs yourself, so step off the pedestal for a while.

You regulary come onto a Catholic message board and do nothing but throw insults at Catholics calling them biggots, intolerant, hateful, etc. and I must say that you have done so to MANY people, not just me. I actually put you on ignore before we ever even engaged in our arguments. I was taken aback at how condescending and petty you are. You expect apologies over everything. I fail to understand why you come onto CAF? You have an axe to grind against your former Church, the Roman Catholic Church. You hate it on so many levels and have sought to “educate” we Catholics into the TEC. When some people fight back, you get your knickers in a twist and start a liberal tirade of slurs like those I just quoted. And somehow you pretend to be the civil one…nice. I may be rough around the endges, but no phony either.

Finally, I won’t pull any punches. I do loathe the Episcopal denomination. I have no respect for it. I’m not hiding anything. You’re right on that count. I don’t hate all the members, I pity them and pray for them. Your denomination teaches falsehoods about not only Church polity, it sues the pants off anyone with a discenting opinion (and yet folks like you pretend it’s an open-minded group willing to hear all sides), and worst of all—it warps the very essence of who God is into something pagan. Your denomination seeks to ordain practicing open homosexuals and cross-dressers. And yet you go on defending this.

You also love to come on here and psychoanalyze everybody to death who disagrees with you. Those who AGREE with you, Spirit, are well-reounded, intelligent, thoughtful, and articulate. Those who disagree are bigots, hate-mongers, venom-spewing idiots. Convenient.

And I just love how you can assess my entire personality based on forum posts! Now that’s impressive indeed. I must not be the adept Freudian analyst you are because I don’t know you, Meadow. Never met ya. But I won’t pretend to know everything about you either and I don’t hope that you get chastised by moderators. How childish.

This is a free country. I can feel how I want to feel and express my opinion. And guess what?..thousands and thousands of people just left TEC doing the same thing. Bravely, these people walked away from heresy and are trying their best. I don’t agree with some things about Anglicanism, but you might notice I respect the ACNA and Anglicans out there that stick to the traditional values of Christianity. I don’t wish them ill and hope for the best in their new church life. In TEC, I see no hope for sanity-retrieval. It’s done for. I hope the denomination goes broke from suing people, continues to grow older than the hills in its membership, and eventually withers on the vine. And I find it sickening that you go on defending the indefensible in what TEC proclaims, especially in Anaheim.

You say I don’t respect the beliefs of others. Boloney. Pure boloney. I regularly speak with Orthodox, Lutherans, Anglicans, and other protestants on here and consider them online friends if anything. Many of my friends in “real” life are protestant and I cherish them. But in these forums we are discussing religion and I can agree to disagree with many denominations. But yours is so far into the abyss and your attitude about defending a neo-pagan denomination IMO is horrendous. You display none of the charity you so espouse. I am charitable but not to outright heresy. I would love to see you in a time machine, SpiritMeadow. What would you have expected of Augustine with the pelagians? Would you have expected him to roll over for them and be tolerant? Or how about the early Christians with gnosticism? Bake em a pie? Or how about Arianism or Nestorianism? Invite 'em over for cookies? Like these men, I will engage your heresy and not stand for it. If that makes you squeemish, don’t read my posts, put me on ignore (I wish you would!), and turn the channel! You decided to walk away from Catholicism because it didn’t conform to your will. You have an absolutely closed mind toward the Catholic faith and you’ve made statements in the past that reveal a deep-seeded hatred of it. I’ve seen that on here…

Finally, addressing my “misery.” I’m a happy guy, Spirit, as much it might pain you to know! I am celebrating my tenth wedding anniversary today 7/18/09 taking my wife out tonight for a nice dinner just the two of us. We have a three, two and one year old. I am a teacher with a good job, decent benefits, and great students. I love pulling for my San Francisco Giants, going to ball games, playing my guitar, love my pets, love going to Mass and praying, reading the Bible, have two great parents that are awesome, my wife is the greatest in the world, and each day is a new adventure. What bugs me?..well, heresy and sinful teachings. I believe TEC is the epitome of that. If my anger toward heresy and unwillingness to embrace or water down my opinions toward heresy leads you to believe I’m miserable, so be it. I have nothing against you as a person, just your beliefs, which I feel are dangerous. I just had my annual physical the other day and my bloodwork and checkup were impeccable and blood pressure 120/80. For being miserable, my life and health are pretty good!

So, I suggest you keep your day job and stop trying the Sigmund Freud bit!

Anyway, back to ignore!
 
I suspect the subject harks back to Lambeth 1998, and some well known comments made about the Southern Primates, then.

GKC
Thanks for making that point that I obviously failed to express well, GKC. Spirit is overreacting as usual and doesn’t follow Episcopal/Anglican events very well to know my references. Thanks.
 
the anglican communion in africa is very traditional and conservative. they do not approve of what is happening over here in America in TEC. so in a way, he is correct.
helping out with charity work is different, but if you are speaking about the doctrines and adhering to the gospel teachings, the TEC probably does see the anglican communion in africa as backward because they will not tolerate the liberal interpretation of the Bible.
the people in Africa are very religious. their religion means a lot to them. many new anglican churches starting out here are under the archbishops in africa - like in uganda and nigeria. so the anglican communion in africa is not on the side of the TEC in america.
Very true. African bishops actually came to the States and had to evangelize and mission to the American churches here! It was the AMIA and other groups influenced by this. Peter Akinola, the bishop of Nigeria, has more Anglicans in his diocese than all of England and North America combined! And despite SpiritMeadows protests and demands for apologies, trust me, I have heard liberal Episcopalians mock these Africans as being backwards in spiritual matters as well as being “behind” in their outlooks on women clerics, condoms, and traditional values. They often view them as needing “education” religiously. It actually ended up being the other way around!

And sometimes that witness Africa has to offer benefits we Catholics, too. We all as Christians become a bit liberal in our vision and materialistic. When we have priests visit from India, Africa, Mexico, etc, in my parish we really benefit from hearing their humility, simplicity, and deep reverence. They seem to never tire of hearing the Gospel and they’re zealous in their devotion. I love it! They’ve only been a positive thing for Christianity. I wish Akinola and Bishop Orombi of Uganda the best in their vision of Anglicanism. Who knows? Maybe the form of Anglicanism these brave men are espousing might someday reunite with Rome and Orthodoxy? What liberals don’t understand is WHY Anglican churches GROW? Those that grow, like Christ Church Plano in TX or in Africa, all grow because they teach THE GOSPEL, not the Depak Choprah Richard Simmons Gospel that is watered-down with nothing but acceptance to any doctrine or any pagan notion. The churches that GROW do so because they are nurished by the Holy Spirit. I hope that happens for these Anglicans!🙂
 
The only problem is that there are plenty of Orthodox Episcopal Churches out there that want to open the dialog. I heard a Methodist pastor put it this way last Christmas and I tend to agree with him. It is not about who gets the right theology. God does not require that. The only thing that God requires is that we believe that God sent God’s son to die for us.
Now I read earlier post that said that the orthodox Anglicans should run to Rome. The only problem I have with that is that the last time I visited a Roman Catholic Church I had one person speak to me. And that was an older lady who had dropped her umbrella and I picked it up for her. I value a church where I can actually talk to people and actually participate in the life of the church. Not one where the only words you hear are thank you for picking this up for me.
Hi dsears. I appreciate your point of view, trust me. Some of the FRIENDLIEST folks I’ve ever met were at my old Anglican parish…dynamite people and very kind!! That is also true of many Lutherans I know…and Mormons…and atheists!

I’m sorry you didn’t feel welcome in that Catholic parish. You certainly ARE welcome! I thank God you visited! You must remember that it is the theology, the deposit of faith, the devotions, the authority, and the rich heritage of truth that you are looking for, not just reactions or pleasantries from the congregants. I must point out to you too, friend, that it might sound silly but often times it is the MASS you go to that varies in personality. For example, at my church, the 4pm on Saturday Mass, the 11:30 on Sunday morning Mass and the 8am Sunday Mass are just chuck full of smiling, kind, welcoming people. They are so gracious and full of friendliness. but oddly enough the 5:30pm Saturday vigil mass is full of very unfriendly, fuddy-duddy folks and sometimes the 7am is as well…they’re a bunch of sticks in the mudd, don’t sing, and seem grouchy!

And sometimes the entire parish can be a bunch of grumps, dsears! So, my advice is go at different times and even try different parishes! Go to RCIA and check out what the Church has to offer with an open mind, prayerfully. that’s all we can ask for.

I do want you to know that all the Catholics in here are THRILLED that you’re considering our faith and most especially the Lord is calling you. Give RCIA a chance and Catholic media as well as Catholics in here, friend. May God bless you richly in your search, no matter where you land!👍
 
Thanks for making that point that I obviously failed to express well, GKC. Spirit is overreacting as usual and doesn’t follow Episcopal/Anglican events very well to know my references. Thanks.
In certain Anglican circles, chicken dinners and Resolution 1.10 are down the memory hole.

GKC
 
:confused::confused: I must be slow today, GKC? Come again buddy? LOL
At Lambeth 98, the African/Southern Primates first began to stir, and stretch their orthodox muscles, in a manner quite surprising and (shall we say) uppity, to the minds of much of the liberal Northern bloc, so long dominant in the Communion, and unaccustomed to being opposed by folks straying off the plantations. Primates and others from the African Provinces joined conservative first world bishops is advancing some relatively basic Christian doctrine, in the form of resolutions. The one I’m speaking of, 1.10, I’ll post below.

This form of lese-majeste aroused the ire of the progressive forces, who began to speak of the Africa prelates as unsophisticated, only slightly removed from animism, or redolent of an Islamic type of fundamentalism. And that they were in effect, being manipulated and bought by the conservative forces, with (as the word famously had it, from one source, not necessarily unbiased) chicken dinners. The implications were deafening. (+Kolini, of Rwanda remarked wryly “We have chicken back home, you know”).

This was the emergence of the Third World, African evangelical prelates as a force. AMIA was to follow.

Resolution 1.10, which passed, by a large margin (hard to partner up with those liberal opponents, after their gaffes), was as follows:

**Resolution 1.10, Human Sexuality
This Conference…
(a) commends to the Church the sub-section report on human sexuality;

(b) in view of the teaching of Scripture, upholds faithfulness in marriage between a man and a woman in lifelong union, and believes that abstinence is right for those who are not called to marriage;

(c) recognises that there are among us persons who experience themselves as having a homosexual orientation. Many of these are members of the Church and are seeking the pastoral care, moral direction of the Church, and God’s transforming power for the living of their lives and the ordering of relationships. We commit ourselves to listen to the experience of homosexual persons and we wish to assure them that they are loved by God and that all baptised, believing and faithful persons, regardless of sexual orientation, are full members of the Body of Christ;

(d) while rejecting homosexual practice as incompatible with Scripture, calls on all our people to minister pastorally and sensitively to all irrespective of sexual orientation and to condemn irrational fear of homosexuals, violence within marriage and any trivialisation and commercialisation of sex;

(e) cannot advise the legitimizing or blessing same sex unions nor ordaining those involved in same gender unions;

(f) requests the Primates and the ACC to establish a means of monitoring the work done on the subject of human sexuality in the Communion and to share statements and resources among us;

(g) notes the significance of the Kuala Lumpur Statement on Human Sexuality and the concerns expressed in Resolutions IV.26, V.1, V.10, V.23 and V.35 on the authority of Scripture in matters of marriage and sexuality and asks the Primates and the ACC to include them in their monitoring process.
**

Eleven years ago. Radical, isn’t it? Look how far some of them have come, now. I took it you were harking back to those days, of racism, in your remark. If not, it would have fit.

GKC
 
At Lambeth 98, the African/Southern Primates first began to stir, and stretch their orthodox muscles, in a manner quite surprising and (shall we say) uppity, to the minds of much of the liberal Northern bloc, so long dominant in the Communion, and unaccustomed to being opposed by folks straying off the plantations. Primates and others from the African Provinces joined conservative first world bishops is advancing some relatively basic Christian doctrine, in the form of resolutions. The one I’m speaking of, 1.10, I’ll post below.

This form of lese-majeste aroused the ire of the progressive forces, who began to speak of the Africa prelates as unsophisticated, only slightly removed from animism, or redolent of an Islamic type of fundamentalism. And that they were in effect, being manipulated and bought by the conservative forces, with (as the word famously had it, from one source, not necessarily unbiased) chicken dinners. The implications were deafening. (+Kolini, of Rwanda remarked wryly “We have chicken back home, you know”).

This was the emergence of the Third World, African evangelical prelates as a force. AMIA was to follow.

Resolution 1.10, which passed, by a large margin (hard to partner up with those liberal opponents, after their gaffes), was as follows:

**Resolution 1.10, Human Sexuality
This Conference…
(a) commends to the Church the sub-section report on human sexuality;

(b) in view of the teaching of Scripture, upholds faithfulness in marriage between a man and a woman in lifelong union, and believes that abstinence is right for those who are not called to marriage;

(c) recognises that there are among us persons who experience themselves as having a homosexual orientation. Many of these are members of the Church and are seeking the pastoral care, moral direction of the Church, and God’s transforming power for the living of their lives and the ordering of relationships. We commit ourselves to listen to the experience of homosexual persons and we wish to assure them that they are loved by God and that all baptised, believing and faithful persons, regardless of sexual orientation, are full members of the Body of Christ;

(d) while rejecting homosexual practice as incompatible with Scripture, calls on all our people to minister pastorally and sensitively to all irrespective of sexual orientation and to condemn irrational fear of homosexuals, violence within marriage and any trivialisation and commercialisation of sex;

(e) cannot advise the legitimizing or blessing same sex unions nor ordaining those involved in same gender unions;

(f) requests the Primates and the ACC to establish a means of monitoring the work done on the subject of human sexuality in the Communion and to share statements and resources among us;

(g) notes the significance of the Kuala Lumpur Statement on Human Sexuality and the concerns expressed in Resolutions IV.26, V.1, V.10, V.23 and V.35 on the authority of Scripture in matters of marriage and sexuality and asks the Primates and the ACC to include them in their monitoring process.
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Eleven years ago. Radical, isn’t it? Look how far some of them have come, now. I took it you were harking back to those days, of racism, in your remark. If not, it would have fit.

GKC
I remember the resolution and implications of things said, yes, but the “chicken dinners” reference you made I must’ve forgotten! LOL…Boy, imagine the bishops being that easy to sell-out! Over chicken! LOL…
 
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