i agree. i don’t know how things are going in australia. i do have a friend in new zealand.
Australia is pretty secular, so anything that goes aginst “getting with the times” trail of thought is seen as bit old fashioned and therefore lack credibility.
i wish i could see into the future 25 years and see what is ahead for Christianity and the Roman Catholic church.
The church will come under increased attack, but in a way i think it will be a good thing for the church as i think it will clean the church of “fake” catholics, those that have the strongest faith in the church will stay. Those that don’t i think you will find will leave, sad but true.
you have a good argument there. i am a new Catholic and to be honest, most of the “real” Catholics i have met are here at CAF. unfortunately, i have met many “fake” Catholics out in the real world and in my church and they don’t apologize for their beliefs.
Hi 7 Sorrows,
Do you mean the month dedicated to gays and lesbians predates Obama? As far as I’ve ever known, this is the first official calendar month recognition of homosexuals. It’s flat-out bizarre. Even apart from the obvious abnormal behavior of the LGBT community, it just seems painfully obvious that it’s weird to celebrate a person’s sexual preferences? It’s as if to say, “this month we’re celebrating all men who are attracted to other men!” What’s the point? I think they’re (the Left Wing) is trying to characterize gays and lesbians as African Americans, a formerly persecuted minority. Pretty cheesy logic. I find it odd that we are dedicating this time toward a person’s sex preferences at all? We don’t have a month dedicated to older men who are attracted to younger ladies and black men who are attracted to white women, etc. etc. so why dedicate something to gays and lesbians since, in the end, it’s just their sexual preference that gives them the title “gay?”
This is satan at work gurneyhalleck1!Do you mean the month dedicated to gays and lesbians predates Obama? As far as I’ve ever known, this is the first official calendar month recognition of homosexuals. It’s flat-out bizarre. Even apart from the obvious abnormal behavior of the LGBT community, it just seems painfully obvious that it’s weird to celebrate a person’s sexual preferences? It’s as if to say, “this month we’re celebrating all men who are attracted to other men!” What’s the point? I think they’re (the Left Wing) is trying to characterize gays and lesbians as African Americans, a formerly persecuted minority. Pretty cheesy logic. I find it odd that we are dedicating this time toward a person’s sex preferences at all? We don’t have a month dedicated to older men who are attracted to younger ladies and black men who are attracted to white women, etc. etc. so why dedicate something to gays and lesbians since, in the end, it’s just their sexual preference that gives them the title “gay?”
No, I meant that the issue of sexually related problems in TEC predates Obama by many years. Nothing Obama did gave a green light to TEC to do what they did, and have long been doing.Do you mean the month dedicated to gays and lesbians predates Obama? As far as I’ve ever known, this is the first official calendar month recognition of homosexuals. It’s flat-out bizarre. Even apart from the obvious abnormal behavior of the LGBT community, it just seems painfully obvious that it’s weird to celebrate a person’s sexual preferences? It’s as if to say, “this month we’re celebrating all men who are attracted to other men!” What’s the point? I think they’re (the Left Wing) is trying to characterize gays and lesbians as African Americans, a formerly persecuted minority. Pretty cheesy logic. I find it odd that we are dedicating this time toward a person’s sex preferences at all? We don’t have a month dedicated to older men who are attracted to younger ladies and black men who are attracted to white women, etc. etc. so why dedicate something to gays and lesbians since, in the end, it’s just their sexual preference that gives them the title “gay?”
Ok, gotcha…And dittos to that sentiment. TEC doesn’t need Obama’s approval or inspiration to come up with the twisted weirdness they’ve adopted in Anaheim. I’m still trying to imagine shaking hands with Rector James coming out the door of church and he’s wearing pumps…that Anaheim convention sure is ‘progressive’ LOL
You’ll get no argument from me on that front. Satan’s greatest tool is making us think he isn’t there and then working through the “benevolent” leftist “It Takes a Village” progressive warm-fuzzies that the Left portray when the behind-the-curtain reality is abortion, right-to-die, cloning, destroying embryos, unethical science, and an erosion of Judeo-Christian policies that made this country what it is today. It’s insidious and always under the guise of what’s best for us. A lot of these radical pro-gay folks are generation Xers in my age group who never got to be abolitionists in the Civil War or hippies in the
Louie1983;5490983:
Yes, I was also very disturbed and discouraged when I became Catholic, and discovered some members who were advocating all of the changes that had already occurred in TEC. My first reaction was, “If you want a religion with some of the ‘bells and whistles’ of Catholicism but none of the “trappings” of the doctrine, why not just join the Episcopal Church?”. Stop messing with Catholicism!!! If you don’t like the rules of this game, go find another one you want to play. Why change THIS one???
yes, the sexual issues within the episcopal church have been on the front line for many years, however, they did have an agreement with the Archbishop of Canterbury, that they would refrain from ordaining gay bishops. to me, it just seems since we have such a lenient president now who seems to favor the LGBT community, that they feel it is acceptable for them to go against the wishes of the Archbishop of Canterbury. if we have a month now in our calendar year which officially recognizes and honors this community,Do you mean the month dedicated to gays and lesbians predates Obama? As far as I’ve ever known, this is the first official calendar month recognition of homosexuals. It’s flat-out bizarre. Even apart from the obvious abnormal behavior of the LGBT community, it just seems painfully obvious that it’s weird to celebrate a person’s sexual preferences? It’s as if to say, “this month we’re celebrating all men who are attracted to other men!” What’s the point? I think they’re (the Left Wing) is trying to characterize gays and lesbians as African Americans, a formerly persecuted minority. Pretty cheesy logic. I find it odd that we are dedicating this time toward a person’s sex preferences at all? We don’t have a month dedicated to older men who are attracted to younger ladies and black men who are attracted to white women, etc. etc. so why dedicate something to gays and lesbians since, in the end, it’s just their sexual preference that gives them the title “gay?”
7 Sorrows;5491000:
Yes, I was also very disturbed and discouraged when I became Catholic, and discovered some members who were advocating all of the changes that had already occurred in TEC. My first reaction was, “If you want a religion with some of the ‘bells and whistles’ of Catholicism but none of the “trappings” of the doctrine, why not just join the Episcopal Church?”. Stop messing with Catholicism!!! If you don’t like the rules of this game, go find another one you want to play. Why change THIS one???
The resolution (B033) that agreed to a moratorium on consecrating gay bishps arose from the 2006 General Convention. It was a given that it would not be adhered to, after the current convention. Obama and any attitude he might have had nothing whatsoever to do with Reolution D025, from the just completed convention. Episcopalians as a corporate group needed no green light to poke +Rowan *Cantaur *in the eye. They’ve been doing it for years.