Trad sites: SOSS(Same OL Sad Song)

[MissRose73]

catholicapologetics.info/morality/modesty/dress.htm

I’ve read similar things before. I personally do not think its sinful to show the arms exposed from the elbow to the wrist in church in this day and age but I am sure some traditionalists would say different. I’d much rather see a female come to Holy Mass wearing a nice shirt and knee length skirt (or even a nice pair of loose fitting pants if they are uncomfortable in skirts or dresses) that is modest compared to a female who wears a tight little black dress that barely covers the bum more suited for a dance club to Mass.

I know since I’ve been going to the EF Mass, I’ve changed my ways in dress for Mass & activities outside of it like work. But when most stores think that plus sized women like me want to always (or most of the time) expose some amount of cleavage even if its not appropriate for the situation, shirt purchases can be an issue and a challenge to overcome. So, I do invest in a modest cami to wear under the shirt, or use some form of cover up like a shawl depending on the weather.

 

[LightBound]

catholicapologetics.info/morality/modesty/dress.htm

Well no wonder…that site is ran by a bunch of rabid sedevacantists and other RadTrads who are not with Rome. There is very minimal moderation of the posts,(for example, you have posts left up stating that it’s okay to beat your wife if she isn’t obedient in every way to her husband), so you get opinions that are as anti-Catholic as they come (under the guise of being a “Traditional Catholic”).
Stay away from it! Get your info on Traditional Catholicism here on CAF and forget those fake Catholic forums!!

 

[crazzeto]

Certainly not that “wife and mother” is the only choice for women, but I think the world would be a better place if we all were more ready to accept our vocations. For many of us it’s husband / father, or wife mother. A career may be added on top (and hopefully will be for at least one person in the marriage), but our vocation is either married life, religious or preistly. “Computer programmer” isn’t my vocation, husband and father is. Computer programmer happens to be my career. My wife has decided it is best to be a stay at home mother, and I’m happy that she has elected that role.

 

[LightBound]

Well no wonder…that site is ran by a bunch of rabid sedevacantists and other RadTrads who are not with Rome. There is very minimal moderation of the posts,(for example, you have posts left up stating that it’s okay to beat your wife if she isn’t obedient in every way to her husband), so you get opinions that are as anti-Catholic as they come (under the guise of being a “Traditional Catholic”).
Stay away from it! Get your info on Traditional Catholicism here on CAF and forget those fake Catholic forums!!

Another thing…that site and ones like it are no different than say, a site/forum/blog that says they are Catholic, but espouse prochoice or New Age beliefs. Sure it “says” they’re Catholic,and it may have some Catholic beliefs interspersed with the rest of their garbage, but it doesn’t make it truly Catholic. They are following something else…and it sure isn’t the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope.

 

[Stylites]

Well no wonder…that site is ran by a bunch of rabid sedevacantists and other RadTrads who are not with Rome. There is very minimal moderation of the posts,(for example, you have posts left up stating that it’s okay to beat your wife if she isn’t obedient in every way to her husband), so you get opinions that are as anti-Catholic as they come (under the guise of being a “Traditional Catholic”).
Stay away from it! Get your info on Traditional Catholicism here on CAF and forget those fake Catholic forums!!

Thanks for the indication that it is not a Kosher site. This link from CatholicCulture.org contains reviews of many sites, and divides them into “Top Rated” sites and “Danger List” sites, and offers reasons and examples for their independent findings so that others can judge for themselves. Unfortunately not every phony so-called ‘Catholic’ blog and website is listed:

catholicculture.org/culture/reviews/

To denitaA: If you have been visiting these sorts of phony Catholic sites you might want to get ahold of the Catechism for study and make sure you are not unwittingly harboring other ideas which are contrary to and harmful to the faith.

 

[Baelor]

And I don’t think it’s because they feel like the priests are yelling “CONFORM!!” from the pulpit. It’s more that people sensibilities change when they start taking their religion more seriously, and part of that change is a natural drift towards modesty.

Or they feel a societal need to conform.

Once, when I was in the kitchen with a couple of ladies at church, we had a long discussion about how it was really nice to have the liberty to simply be women when we were at church, and let the men do the “men” things and the women do the “women” things.

What, pray tell, would those “men” things be? I assume that they take place out of the kitchen, which is where the women belong!

 

[LightBound]

Thanks for the indication that it is not a Kosher site. This link from CatholicCulture.org contains reviews of many sites, and divides them into “Top Rated” sites and “Danger List” sites, and offers reasons and examples for their independent findings so that others can judge for themselves. Unfortunately not every phony so-called ‘Catholic’ blog and website is listed:

catholicculture.org/culture/reviews/

To denitaA: If you have been visiting these sorts of phony Catholic sites you might want to get ahold of the Catechism for study and make sure you are not unwittingly harboring other ideas which are contrary to and harmful to the faith.

Thank you for posting the link to the dangerous sites. Sometimes we forget that a site appears to be for conservative or Traditional Catholics can be as unfaithful to the Magisterium as one that is very liberal or “progressive”.

 

[LightBound]

Or they feel a societal need to conform.

What, pray tell, would those “men” things be? I assume that they take place out of the kitchen, which is where the women belong!

Now, now, Baelor…don’t go trolling this fine morning

 

[Baelor]

Now, now, Baelor…don’t go trolling this fine morning

I would never!

crazzeto:

Certainly not that “wife and mother” is the only choice for women, but I think the world would be a better place if we all were more ready to accept our vocations. For many of us it’s husband / father, or wife mother. A career may be added on top (and hopefully will be for at least one person in the marriage), but our vocation is either married life, religious or preistly. “Computer programmer” isn’t my vocation, husband and father is. Computer programmer happens to be my career. My wife has decided it is best to be a stay at home mother, and I’m happy that she has elected that role.

That is not actually true – consecrated single life is another vocation, and the Church does not state that unconsecrated single persons are not living out their own vocations.

 

[LightBound]

I would never!

That is not actually true – consecrated single life is another vocation, and the Church does not state that unconsecrated single persons are not living out their own vocations.

…for the reply on “trolling”

 

[Dee_S]

Well no wonder…that site is ran by a bunch of rabid sedevacantists and other RadTrads who are not with Rome. There is very minimal moderation of the posts,(for example, you have posts left up stating that it’s okay to beat your wife if she isn’t obedient in every way to her husband), so you get opinions that are as anti-Catholic as they come (under the guise of being a “Traditional Catholic”).
Stay away from it! Get your info on Traditional Catholicism here on CAF and forget those fake Catholic forums!!

Just wanted to add that DenitaA unwittingly used the acronym SOSS in her thread title, which are also the initials for a rabid anti-Bishop Fellay site that exists to rant and rave quite dramatically against his move towards full communion with Rome.

 

[MissRose73]

Just wanted to add that DenitaA unwittingly used the acronym SOSS in her thread title, which are also the initials for a rabid anti-Bishop Fellay site that exists to rant and rave quite dramatically against his move towards full communion with Rome.

I’ve visited a few of the forums in the past that tend to be more sede or already are in their viewpoints, and some of them are down right scary or other stuff. Many of them have bad things to say about many things in today’s society and also regarding anything with the Ordinary Form of the Mass. I would never dare sign up and post in those places especially since some of them take offense to those who attend both Mass forms or just Ordinary Form.

I much prefer this forum as people are more civilized in their responses and questions even when it comes to touchy subjects like modesty, Communion reception, etc.

 

[HonoraDominum]

Or they feel a societal need to conform.

This is entirely possible as well. There are skirts that I wear there that I don’t wear anywhere else - when I wear the same top to work, I’ll wear it with black slacks instead of my black skirt, for example.

What, pray tell, would those “men” things be? I assume that they take place out of the kitchen, which is where the women belong!

Well, for example, training the altar boys. Acting as ushers. Working on the Landscaping Committee digging holes and lifting heavy things (although we have a woman who can’t weigh more than 100 pounds who is out there lifting heavy things with the best of them). Cooking pancakes for the Pancake Breakfasts served by Knights of Columbus.

Compare this to the parish in my mother’s town, which is not an FSSP parish. The lector, the people carrying the offering up the aisle, the altar servers, the cantor, and every single EMHC is a woman. The only man in the sanctuary during Mass is the priest. Now, I’m not saying that women cannot do any of these roles - they are allowed according to the current canon. However, it might encourage vocations to the priesthood to have at least some altar boys, don’t you think? I mean, that was the original purpose of allowing young boys to be altar servers - to promote vocations.

I’m not in any way saying that women can’t have careers, or that they can’t serve in the parish. I do both, and in both I do roles that are more often done by men than women. However, for women who chose not to do these things, and instead focus on their vocations as mothers, they are not judged harshly at my parish. And the men there act like fathers, and attend Mass with their kids, and take them to the cry room when they are being unruly, and act like role models for their children and for the youth in our parish. How many problems in (non-Catholic) society can be traced to a lack of a strong male father-figure in the home? While the families in our parish are not perfect, at least they are trying. This is more than many of the families outside of our doors are doing.

 

[Baelor]

Well, for example, training the altar boys. Acting as ushers. Working on the Landscaping Committee digging holes and lifting heavy things (although we have a woman who can’t weigh more than 100 pounds who is out there lifting heavy things with the best of them). Cooking pancakes for the Pancake Breakfasts served by Knights of Columbus.

The latter examples is obvious. I am in no way familiar with FSSP parishes, so I cannot comment on the standards and expectations, but none of the above things strikes me as a “man” activity. My mother trains altar boys as part of her parish job with the priest and they seem to turn out fine.

Compare this to the parish in my mother’s town, which is not an FSSP parish. The lector, the people carrying the offering up the aisle, the altar servers, the cantor, and every single EMHC is a woman. The only man in the sanctuary during Mass is the priest. Now, I’m not saying that women cannot do any of these roles - they are allowed according to the current canon. However, it might encourage vocations to the priesthood to have at least some altar boys, don’t you think? I mean, that was the original purpose of allowing young boys to be altar servers - to promote vocations.

For the sake of promoting vocations, I think all altar boys should be male simply to have as many male altar servers as possible. So I totally agree with you!

 

[MikeDunphy]

On the home page, I see a picture of the pope, with the words “Oremus Pro Papa Nostro Benedicto !” * Those aren’t the words of “a bunch of rabid sedevacantists”. Looking around for a minute, I see links to a large number of articles, but no discussion forum. Are you sure you were thinking about the site mentioned by the OP?

Well no wonder…that site is ran by a bunch of rabid sedevacantists and other RadTrads who are not with Rome. There is very minimal moderation of the posts,(for example, you have posts left up stating that it’s okay to beat your wife if she isn’t obedient in every way to her husband), so you get opinions that are as anti-Catholic as they come (under the guise of being a “Traditional Catholic”).
Stay away from it! Get your info on Traditional Catholicism here on CAF and forget those fake Catholic forums!!

 

[LightBound]

On the home page, I see a picture of the pope, with the words “Oremus Pro Papa Nostro Benedicto !” * Those aren’t the words of “a bunch of rabid sedevacantists”. Looking around for a minute, I see links to a large number of articles, but no discussion forum. Are you sure you were thinking about the site mentioned by the OP?*

That site has some RadTrad leanings (hence the article on what women should wear (the Vatican has no problem with women wearing women’s pants and the Vatican recognizes that pants aren’t only for men), plus their opinions of the 2nd Vatican Council and its “errors”, including an obvious disdain for the Mass in OF: catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/newmass/index.htm

I realize now that the link the OP posted was to this site (which is still ran by those that don’t approve of the Mass in OF and have misguided ideas about those bifurcated articles of clothing women dare to wear), but is not the rabid sedevacantist forum I thought it was. That vile piece of work is cathinfo.com and I don’t recommend anyone visit. You’d get more authentic Catholicism from a far left site than that place!!

 

[Baelor]

I realize now that the link the OP posted was to this site (which is still ran by those that don’t approve of the Mass in OF and have misguided ideas about those bifurcated articles of clothing women dare to wear), but is not the rabid sedevacantist forum I thought it was. That vile piece of work is cathinfo.com and I don’t recommend anyone visit. You’d get more authentic Catholicism from a far left site than that place!!

The Great Enemy is indeed at work there…fisheaters can also be suspect at times.

 

[LilyM]

I would never!

That is not actually true – consecrated single life is another vocation, and the Church does not state that unconsecrated single persons are not living out their own vocations.

Not only that. Someone mentioned St Joan of Arc - well she very definitely had a vocation, but one which had nothing whatsoever to do with her marital status or lack thereof. A career, if you will, which was truly a vocation as well.

 

[TrueLight]

. That vile piece of work is cathinfo.com and I don’t recommend anyone visit. You’d get more authentic Catholicism from a far left site than that place!!

You just advertised for it.

 

[LightBound]

You just advertised for it.

Yeah, I know. I was kind of between a rock and a hard place since I figured someone would demand to know what forum I was talking about and would insist I “state my source”. You know how it can get on here