Trader Joe’s Knows That Petitions Aren’t Commandments

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A bit of a follow up for a thread from a few weeks ago titled " Petition asks Trader Joe’s to change its ‘racist’ food packaging"

Trader Joe’s Knows That Petitions Aren’t Commandments​

The company decided not to rebrand its Trader Giotto and Trader José product lines.​

Trader Joe’s has long given playful foreign versions of its name to certain international product lines: Trader José, Trader Giotto, Trader Ming, and so on.

One could have guessed that amidst our racial reckoning (“the Great Awokening,” as Vox ’s Matthew Yglesias calls it), these names would come under attack. This happened: A 17-year-old woman spearheaded a petition that attracted more than 5,000 signatures, asking Trader Joe’s to eliminate names that reflect “a narrative of exoticism that perpetuates harmful stereotypes.”

Trader Joe’s initially seemed inclined to rebrand, but recently decided to retain the names, insisting, “we disagree that any of these labels are racist. We do not make decisions based on petitions.”

Bravo. We must certainly submit what we consider funny to periodic reexamination, and be vigilant about the dangers of stereotyping. However, petitions must also be subject to examination and vigilance, because they can function in ways that are less progressive than puritan.

At the heart of wokeness is a paradox. On one hand, we are not to shoehorn people into preset characterizations; we are to see them as individuals. But on the other hand, we are not to deny that subgroups exist. For example, it is wrong under this catechism to say “I don’t see color” because it can be taken as not only a denial that people of color exist in subordination to white people, but also a denial of cultural differences.

Trader José and Trader Ming would seem to acknowledge the difference, no? Many would say that this misses the point. But just which point?

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Is the use of “Jose” or “Giotto” racist? If so, the isn’t the use of “Joe” racist as well?
 
Is the use of “Jose” or “Giotto” racist?
Often times context is important. The use of any of those names is not racist per se. But I’m sure there is some context and usage in which this might be the case.
 
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Is the use of “Jose” or “Giotto” racist?
Often times context is important. The use of any of those names is not racist per se. But I’m sure there is some context and usage in which this might be the case.
I would agree, but to the question at hand: Is Trader Joe’s usage of them racist?
 
5,000 signatures is miniscule. If she got 500,000 then TJ’s might actually care.

In any event, I’m not seeing anything disrespectful here, unless the “Trader Joe” name of the store itself is somehow objectionable.
 
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It’s a you-just-can’t-win situation. You could just as easily accuse them of ethnocentrism if their stir-fry sauce and salsa both had Anglo names.
 
I like Trader Joe’s Italian products. Their olive oil from Italy is very good and the price is good as well

Most of their Italian products are authentic from Italy. Pecorino Romano , Parmigiano Reggiano , the frozen pizzas are often imported.
 
frozen pizzas are often imported
Go into a supermarket in the UK and one of the most popular frozen Pizza lines is the “Dr Oetker Ristorante” range (German firm, manufactured in the UK).

Go into a supermercato in Italy and one of the most popular frozen Pizza lines is . . . 😀

They make a lot of pizzas in Lancashire.
 
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Much as the experience of the real thing is part of any trip to Naples, Dr Oetkers are not bad at all for a quick meal here in Midsomer when I can’t be bothered to cook (and I don’t have to suffer from complaints about dribbling Modena’s most famous contribution to cuisine on it - I’ve been shouted at in Naples for doing so).

Il bel paese wins the cheese on toast contest every time.
 
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It does have to be said that the Restaurant owner in Naples had a point - putting balsamic vinegar on your pizza can be seen as a bit of an insult. Pointing out that it wasn’t that unusual in the North only made matters worse! 😆
 
Meanwhile, German/Lancastrian Pizzas invade the supermarket freezers of Naples as much as they do those of Bologna.
 
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For some reason, when I think of Lancaster, I think of ‘four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie.’ Is that where Ted Hughes was from?
 
I think, even more precisely, that they might say they don’t make positions on petitions signed by any number of people, unless it directly impacts our bottom line.

I like the original wording.
 
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