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NoWings
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I’m not sure if this has been posted elsewhere.
Peace.
Thought you guys and gals might want to know this.
Peace.
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bones_IV
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A link please.
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AspiringDeacon
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If you check out one of the two radio broadcasts form August 20 on CA Live, the show (Eric Bergman I think) went through this same thing - brought his congregation, and they have an Anglican Use Church now as Catholics. I learned a lolt, never knew this existed!
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Rand_Al_Thor
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Pax vobiscum!
This issue was in the news about a year ago…the TAC had something about it on their website. I hadn’t heard anything about this for a while, though, so I’m glad to see it’s still in the works.
In Christ,
Rand
This issue was in the news about a year ago…the TAC had something about it on their website. I hadn’t heard anything about this for a while, though, so I’m glad to see it’s still in the works.
In Christ,
Rand
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andzy
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Dempsey1919
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Watch this video:
themessenger.com.au/Video/20070329.htm
These people are basically Catholic. Hopefully they will be welcomed into the Church. Maybe they could have their own rite in the same way that Milan does. They could keep their liturgy and their disciplines such as the married clergy, afterall the byzantine Catholic Priests are married.
themessenger.com.au/Video/20070329.htm
These people are basically Catholic. Hopefully they will be welcomed into the Church. Maybe they could have their own rite in the same way that Milan does. They could keep their liturgy and their disciplines such as the married clergy, afterall the byzantine Catholic Priests are married.
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ProdigalSun
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I don’t know what all the fuss is about. If they want to become Catholic then convert to Catholicism. If it is true that they almost Catholic, then it shouldn’t be that difficult for them. Join an RCIA class, get baptized, (if needed) confirmed and recieve first communion. There ministers can also become Catholic priests and remain married with the special permission that is required. THere are many married ex anglican ministers now in the church.
As for their own rite… their religious institution was born when they separated from the Latin rite church which it should return to.
Our prayers need to go out to these seperated brothers and sisters to rejoin the flock from whom they have been separated.
Peace!
As for their own rite… their religious institution was born when they separated from the Latin rite church which it should return to.
Our prayers need to go out to these seperated brothers and sisters to rejoin the flock from whom they have been separated.
Peace!
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cyberwolf001
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Ummm your kidding RIGHT?
DUDE THIS ISN’T ONE OR TWO PEOPLE! These shepards want to bring there whole FLOCK into the church plus there farms!
Literally themselves, there flocks, there churches, there seminaries, there orders, there organizations EVERYTHING.
That’s a scale up from just a few people going through RCIA don’t ya think
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ProdigalSun
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So what… Whether it is one two or 8 million, these people still have to become catholic. There ministers still have to become catholic priests! They are Anglican for a reason and that reason is they are not Catholic. Each person needs to be formed proberly into the Catholic faith or we will just have a bunch more catholics (by name only) going through the cafeteria picking anf choosing what the like and don’t like.
Are you saying the church should just say "great… a whole congregation wants to join the church so let’s slap the name Roman on the front and wish them well.
Peace!
Are you saying the church should just say "great… a whole congregation wants to join the church so let’s slap the name Roman on the front and wish them well.
Peace!
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ProdigalSun
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In other words - If they want to be Catholic let them be Catholic.
Peace!
Peace!
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francesco920
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I am extremely sympathetic to these people. They are more Catholic than many of our bishops, priests, deacons, and parishes. I don’t see why most of their requests (except married bishops) cannot be granted…they are 8 million after all and we can’t just pretend that 5 centuries of history didn’t happen. I don’t think it would be fair to ask them to abandon their traditions. They are not to blame for what King Henry VIII did five centuries ago. If they want to come home, we should welcome them with open arms, not put unnecessary obstacles in their path.
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brittrossiter
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I respectfully disagree with you. The Catholic Church is comprised of many different liturgical traditions, as any Byzantine, Melkite, or Maronite Catholic will tell you. In the specific case of Anglican congregations, the Holy Father has permitted other Anglican congregations in the U.S. to return to the Church as “Anglican Use” congregations and to continue using a somewhat modified form of their liturgy. See the website of the St. Thomas More society for more information: stthomasmoresociety.org/aboutSTMS.htm I hope that the same, or something similar, is possible with respect to these congregations.
I believe that this adds greatly to the richness of the Church. These people should in no way be encouraged to abandon their traditions and history.
He is and shall be.
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Atreyu
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Their!!! Not there…
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bekalc
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There is nothing wrong with them being able to keep some of their traditions… The Anglican Common Book of Prayer is a loose translation of the old English mass (with some interpertations added in for the Protestant mindset) Sure there will have to be a few word changes here and there, but there’s no reason they cannot keep their liturgy.
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HenryV
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The English Catholic Church is part of the Roman rite and has been so since St Augustine. Anglicanism is not a rite of it’s own it’s a heresy.
Celibacy is not just a discipline, it has apostolic origins and the Eastern Churches just relaxed the law for priests, there has never been married bishops though.
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geezerbob
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I am appalled at the condescending and uncharitable attitudes being displayed by some here, especially by those who profess to know better than the Vatican how this should be handled. It’s been done before, although on a much smaller scale, and I hope these folks will receive a warm welcome home if they do decide to join the true Church.
By the way, although its roots are biblical, priestly celibacy is a discipline, not dogma, and can be changed.
By the way, although its roots are biblical, priestly celibacy is a discipline, not dogma, and can be changed.
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Catholic29
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As many things the TAC and Rome can agree on, there are still some doctrinal and disciplinary issues that still need to be worked out. Such as married clergy, and in particular married bishops, which is I’m sure a holdover from the Reformation. I wonder if that fact (married bishops) alone invalidates their claim to apostolic succession and priesthood, and along with it most of their sacraments?
Given if their orders and sacraments are valid, it would appear to be possible for them to keep their liturgical traditions, being there have been a handful of so called Anglican Use parishes established. Our Lady of Walsingham in Houston Texas is one such church, here is the link walsingham-church.org/
Given if their orders and sacraments are valid, it would appear to be possible for them to keep their liturgical traditions, being there have been a handful of so called Anglican Use parishes established. Our Lady of Walsingham in Houston Texas is one such church, here is the link walsingham-church.org/
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geezerbob
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About twenty years ago, when the the Episcopal Church first started ordaining women, the church split over the issue and three bishops and a number of parishes split and formed the Anglican church in the US (not sure what the official name was). In order to maintain their claimed apostolic succession, their rules required three bishops in order to ordain a new one. One of the bishops died before any new ones were named and each parish was then given the option of returning to the Episcopal Church or joining the Catholic Church. I don’t remember what the two remaining bishops decided to do nor do I know if they were married. One small parish in Columbia joined the Catholic Church, lock stock and barrel, or, more appropriately, building, grounds, (married) priest, and most of the congregation. They continued to use the Anglican rite until the death of the priest, which was the communion service from the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, with minor changes. As far as I know, there were very few problems with the transition and, yes, they did change the sign to Catholic.
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