R
Rolltide
Guest
The problem is that the TAC has a few married bishops, and that’s NOT permitted by the Catholic Church.
- Status
B
bilop
Guest
Do they have valid orders? i.e. was an Old Catholic or Orthodox Bishop present at their ordinations? I know many traditional “Anglo-Catholics” have done this type of thing to preserve apostolic succession.
If they don’t have valid orders, they would have to be ordained as Catholic Priests, which does not present a problem, but could not be Bishops.
If they are already validly ordained, there is no way for them to stop being Bishops. They would have to agree to function as priests (probably could make them Monsignors as an additional honorific), but would still have the powers of a Bishop.
God Bless
G
grandfather
Guest
It is questionable whether Anglicans have valid Orders. Some may, but knowing which ones is difficult. The claim of apostolic succession has to be unravelled for centuries, the validity of each ordainer’s orders proven. Early on the Anglicans lost their succession, because they denied it themselves. Later when they reailized this was a mistake they tried to rebuild the succession back to a Catholic bishop to reconnect the chain. Its a mess to figure out. When they are ordained as Catholic priests they receive the sacrament conditionally as are some people conditionally baptised. There may have been a valid baptism, but that can not be certain. In the past when Anglican bishops became Catholic and ordained they were ordained as priests. None have claimed the title bishop. The Church has no power to ordain women in any sacramental Orders. A woman Angican bishop converted and became a lay person recognizing the invalidity of her orders or attempt at them. Similarly, no married Anglican bishop would expect to be recognized. The Church does not consecrate married men to the office of bishop.
V
vern_humphrey
Guest
There is no problem with married priests. Episcopalian priests who convert to Catholicism, even if married, can be ordained and serve as priests in the Catholic Church. They cannot become bishops, and unmarried priests cannot mary after ordination, but married men can and do serve as Priests in the Catholic Church.
C
Chellow
Guest
Agree 10 tens over.
And most likely prefer to attend an Anglo-Catholic service.In the early days of the church we had bishops that were married but not allow to be remarried.
A
aimee
Guest
We have a local Catholic priest who is married…he is convert from Episcopal church…
P
piperspop
Guest
I’m new here, but here is the latest from ROME, if anyone is interested:
25th July 2008
From the Primate of the Traditional Anglican Communion
Subject: Unity with the Holy See
His Grace, Archbishop John Hepworth has released the following message to the College of Bishops, Vicars General and those assisting the TAC to achieve unity with the Holy See.
“My Dear Fathers, Brothers and Sisters,
It is my great pleasure to be able to attach a copy of a letter I received this morning (25 July 2008) from Cardinal Levada, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, via the Apostolic Nuncio in Australia. It is a letter of warmth and encouragement. I have responded, expressing my gratitude on behalf of “my brother bishops”, reaffirming our determination to achieve the unity for which Jesus prayed with such intensity at the Last Supper, no matter what the personal cost this might mean in our discipleship.
This letter should encourage our entire Communion, and those friends who have been assisting us. It should also spur us to renewed prayer for the Holy Father, for Cardinal Levada and his staff at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and for all our clergy and people as we move to ever closer communion in Christ with the Holy See.
I am particularly thankful to the Cardinal Prefect for his generous mention of “corporate reunion”, a pathway seldom travelled in the past, but essential for bringing about the plea of our Master to His Father “May they be completely one”’.
The Traditional Anglican Communion
Archbishop John Hepworth
Primate
the letter:
themessenger.com.au/News/20080725.htm
25th July 2008
From the Primate of the Traditional Anglican Communion
Subject: Unity with the Holy See
His Grace, Archbishop John Hepworth has released the following message to the College of Bishops, Vicars General and those assisting the TAC to achieve unity with the Holy See.
“My Dear Fathers, Brothers and Sisters,
It is my great pleasure to be able to attach a copy of a letter I received this morning (25 July 2008) from Cardinal Levada, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, via the Apostolic Nuncio in Australia. It is a letter of warmth and encouragement. I have responded, expressing my gratitude on behalf of “my brother bishops”, reaffirming our determination to achieve the unity for which Jesus prayed with such intensity at the Last Supper, no matter what the personal cost this might mean in our discipleship.
This letter should encourage our entire Communion, and those friends who have been assisting us. It should also spur us to renewed prayer for the Holy Father, for Cardinal Levada and his staff at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and for all our clergy and people as we move to ever closer communion in Christ with the Holy See.
I am particularly thankful to the Cardinal Prefect for his generous mention of “corporate reunion”, a pathway seldom travelled in the past, but essential for bringing about the plea of our Master to His Father “May they be completely one”’.
The Traditional Anglican Communion
Archbishop John Hepworth
Primate
the letter:
themessenger.com.au/News/20080725.htm
- Status