Traditional Catholic Cities

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How about Chicago? 🙂
If you include Rockford and Naperville as well, you have a very nice selection of EF. Sundays and daily Masses. ICR, Cantius, FSSP. SSPX and a couple of independents too.
 
They have Valid Masses…also, anyone may attend an SSPX Mass out of love for the TLM and as long as they do it without supporting schism, it is not sinful. Make sure you get the facts straight…I am not an SSPX’er, but why the heck does everyone beat them up and give them a hard time…I am glad they have done what they have done…without them and their ardent support of the TLM, it might have just become a footnote in our Church’s History…It is strange that so many Catholics willfully go to non-Catholic weddings, Churches, etc…and they don’t see a problem with it…they just love “ecumenism”…hanging out with Prots and other non-Catholics…while at the same time they take every opportunity to bash the SSPX and refuse to participate in anything they are associated with and encourage others to do the same…and the whole irony of this situation is that the SSPX ARE CATHOLIC…and they can’t get any respect from their fellow Catholic bretheren. I for one think it is shameful and totally not necessary…We should be thanking them, not shunning them…and we should be welcoming them back instead of turning them away…I can understand their disdain for Pizza Hut Churches and Clown Masses and Gay Pride Masses and the total lack of Catechesis that has plagued the modern Church
SSPX masses are illicit and should not to be attended by the faithful unless there are no other masses available to fulfill the Sunday obligation. Even so, if there are no masses available one is not liable and commits no sin. Therefore there really is no excuse for attending one of these masses.
 
They have Valid Masses…also, anyone may attend an SSPX Mass out of love for the TLM and as long as they do it without supporting schism, it is not sinful. Make sure you get the facts straight…I am not an SSPX’er, but why the heck does everyone beat them up and give them a hard time…I am glad they have done what they have done…without them and their ardent support of the TLM, it might have just become a footnote in our Church’s History…It is strange that so many Catholics willfully go to non-Catholic weddings, Churches, etc…and they don’t see a problem with it…they just love “ecumenism”…hanging out with Prots and other non-Catholics…while at the same time they take every opportunity to bash the SSPX and refuse to participate in anything they are associated with and encourage others to do the same…and the whole irony of this situation is that the SSPX ARE CATHOLIC…and they can’t get any respect from their fellow Catholic bretheren. I for one think it is shameful and totally not necessary…We should be thanking them, not shunning them…and we should be welcoming them back instead of turning them away…I can understand their disdain for Pizza Hut Churches and Clown Masses and Gay Pride Masses and the total lack of Catechesis that has plagued the modern Church
While I don’t want to get this thread off track, it always sort of bothered me that there is no clear answer from the Bishops or the Vatican regarding SSPX Masses. It seems to go something like this:

Q: What’s the status of the SSPX?

A: Their Bishops and clergy are suspended a divinis.

Q: What’s that mean?

A: They have no canonical status.

Q: What’s that mean?

A: None of your business. It’s an internal matter.

Q: So, are their Sacraments valid?

A: Yes, but illicit.

Q: So, does an SSPX Mass fulfill my Sunday obligation?

A: Well … ummm … wringing of hands … errr … we’d rather you didn’t go.

Q: So, it’s a sin for me to go, then?

A: No … It’s not a sin… more wringing of hands As long as your’e only going because you prefer the Latin Mass.

Q: So, it’s perfectly O.K. for me to attend an SSPX Mass, then?

A: No… even more wringing of hands… Uhhh… It’s still illicit… we’d rather you didn’t go.

Q: So, what’s the status of SSPX Masses?

A: Valid, but illicit.

Q: What’s that MEAN then?

A: None of your business. It’s an internal matter.

Q: ARGHHH! runs away in frustration

A: Phew…
 
I live in the Bible Belt, but have lived in some cities and been to Masses in some.

Frankly, I think you’ll find very traditional parishes and very liberal ones and a lot of “in betweens” in any large city. Having said that, I will recommend St. Louis. I’ve lived there. Lots and lots of Catholics there; certainly as compared to where I live. Extraordinarily beautiful churches in some parishes. The “Old Cathedral” is incredibly ancient and very Colonial French, but well preserved. The “New Cathedral” (Basilica) is an extraordinarily lavish and impressive Byzantine design and of Byzantine decor. Just mind-blowing. You go in there and you almost think you stepped through the portals of heaven. Even some of the floors are made of tiny mosaic bits of semi-precious stones. Beautiful, wonderful side altars that are practically churches in themselves. Give it a look.

cathedralstl.org/intro/

One TLM church is also especially beautiful, though it’s Gothic in design.

Excellent choirs in various places. Eastern Catholic parishes. TLM parishes.

Anyway, that’s my contribution. Good luck! 🙂
 
I will recommend St. Louis

There’s a reason why STL came to be known as the “Rome of the West”… in fact there’s an excellent blog called “Rome of the West” with lots of pictures and historical background on St. Louis-area churches, not just in the city, but in adjacent suburban areas of MO and the IL Metro-East as well.
 
There are 3 old-style Catholic parishes in my hometown of Streator, Illinois. Better hurry if you want to see them as the goons at the diocese want them all torn down. LaSalle-Peru, IL also has many old churches.
 
Omaha has a very active and large Catholic population and an excellent Catholic school system. Low unemployment. One of the best cities to raise children. Safe. Excellent cultural life available. New bishop who is very well regarded by the Catholic population. Strong community support for education, Faith and family. High quality, lower cost housing available. Stable economy.
 
They have Valid Masses…also, anyone may attend an SSPX Mass out of love for the TLM and as long as they do it without supporting schism, it is not sinful. Make sure you get the facts straight…

Illicit does not mean invalid. I never said they were invalid.
 
“Omaha has a… new bishop who is very well regarded by the Catholic population.”

You mean Abp. George Lucas, who came from St. Louis by way of Springfield, Ill. (my diocese). Glad to hear he’s been well received. Hope his replacement here is just as good or better 🙂

He’s one of several well-known prelates with St. Louis connections; others include Abp. Timothy Dolan (NYC), Abp. Justin Rigali (Philly), and Abp. Raymond Burke (now in Rome). St. Louis seems to have a pretty good track record when it comes to vocations, so they must be doing something right.
 
I second the Pittsburgh vote. Cost of living isn’t too bad.

There are a few pepetual adoration chapels and as was already stated one of the biggest Latin Mass communities of Pittsburgh.

There are also many different cultural events/things here such as a world reknowned symphony, and the Carnegie museums are pretty well known.
Pittsburgh also has Historical Churches saintsinthestrip.org/5_0_0.html

Old St Patrick is one of only a few churches that has the 28 steps that was between Pilate and Our Lord. Also, there is ST. Anthony’s Chapel. Which is 2nd to the Vatican with relics. A piece of the “True Cross” is there also a thorn from the “Crown of Thorns”

saintanthonyschapel.org/HTML/relics.html
saintanthonyschapel.org/HTML/history.html
saintanthonyschapel.org/HTML/stations.html

Also, as stated Pittsburgh is the home of the largest Latin Mass Community in the U.S.
14 Altar Boys are on the Altar for Mass. With Black and Red Cassocks!

pittsburghlatinmass.org/
4marks.com/group.html?group_id=11

Please download his sermons!

Pittsburgh is a hidden jewel for Catholicism! It has alot of history in it as well. Also, Pittsburgh has a treasure of Eastern Rite and Orothodox churches as well. Their domes grace the skylines of our neighborhoods.
 
I nominate Front Royal, Va. Not exactly a city, but a small town about 70 miles from Washington, DC. Christendom College is there and Human Life International. The parish, St. John the Baptist is very traditional, with a weekly EF Mass and one or two during the week. Lots of homeschoolers. I am counting the months till we are able to move there.
 
Madison WI has some of the best catholics. And a ROCKING Bishop!!

http://www.madisoncatholicherald.org/2007-09-27/pope_bishop_2007-09.jpg http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/MorlinoBishop.gif

The Cathedral Parish here (of which I am a member) is completely faithfull to the church, with 2-3 “Smells & Bells” masses (2 NO and sometimes a TLM, depending on other factors). Come check it out! There is also a great network for Families of all sizes, including 20-30s!

isthmuscatholic.org/
 
While I don’t want to get this thread off track, it always sort of bothered me that there is no clear answer from the Bishops or the Vatican regarding SSPX Masses. It seems to go something like this:

Q: What’s the status of the SSPX?

A: Their Bishops and clergy are suspended a divinis.

Q: What’s that mean?

A: They have no canonical status.

Q: What’s that mean?

A: None of your business. It’s an internal matter.

Q: So, are their Sacraments valid?

A: Yes, but illicit.

Q: So, does an SSPX Mass fulfill my Sunday obligation?

A: Well … ummm … wringing of hands … errr … we’d rather you didn’t go.

Q: So, it’s a sin for me to go, then?

A: No … It’s not a sin… more wringing of hands As long as your’e only going because you prefer the Latin Mass.

Q: So, it’s perfectly O.K. for me to attend an SSPX Mass, then?

A: No… even more wringing of hands… Uhhh… It’s still illicit… we’d rather you didn’t go.

Q: So, what’s the status of SSPX Masses?

A: Valid, but illicit.

Q: What’s that MEAN then?

A: None of your business. It’s an internal matter.

Q: ARGHHH! runs away in frustration

A: Phew…
There is possibly a special place for canonical lawyers…it surely makes my pretty head hurt:thumbsup:
 
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