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If you include Rockford and Naperville as well, you have a very nice selection of EF. Sundays and daily Masses. ICR, Cantius, FSSP. SSPX and a couple of independents too.How about Chicago?![]()
If you include Rockford and Naperville as well, you have a very nice selection of EF. Sundays and daily Masses. ICR, Cantius, FSSP. SSPX and a couple of independents too.How about Chicago?![]()
SSPX masses are illicit and should not to be attended by the faithful unless there are no other masses available to fulfill the Sunday obligation. Even so, if there are no masses available one is not liable and commits no sin. Therefore there really is no excuse for attending one of these masses.
While I don’t want to get this thread off track, it always sort of bothered me that there is no clear answer from the Bishops or the Vatican regarding SSPX Masses. It seems to go something like this:They have Valid Masses…also, anyone may attend an SSPX Mass out of love for the TLM and as long as they do it without supporting schism, it is not sinful. Make sure you get the facts straight…I am not an SSPX’er, but why the heck does everyone beat them up and give them a hard time…I am glad they have done what they have done…without them and their ardent support of the TLM, it might have just become a footnote in our Church’s History…It is strange that so many Catholics willfully go to non-Catholic weddings, Churches, etc…and they don’t see a problem with it…they just love “ecumenism”…hanging out with Prots and other non-Catholics…while at the same time they take every opportunity to bash the SSPX and refuse to participate in anything they are associated with and encourage others to do the same…and the whole irony of this situation is that the SSPX ARE CATHOLIC…and they can’t get any respect from their fellow Catholic bretheren. I for one think it is shameful and totally not necessary…We should be thanking them, not shunning them…and we should be welcoming them back instead of turning them away…I can understand their disdain for Pizza Hut Churches and Clown Masses and Gay Pride Masses and the total lack of Catechesis that has plagued the modern Church
They have Valid Masses…also, anyone may attend an SSPX Mass out of love for the TLM and as long as they do it without supporting schism, it is not sinful. Make sure you get the facts straight…
Illicit does not mean invalid. I never said they were invalid.
Pittsburgh also has Historical Churches saintsinthestrip.org/5_0_0.htmlI second the Pittsburgh vote. Cost of living isn’t too bad.
There are a few pepetual adoration chapels and as was already stated one of the biggest Latin Mass communities of Pittsburgh.
There are also many different cultural events/things here such as a world reknowned symphony, and the Carnegie museums are pretty well known.
There is possibly a special place for canonical lawyers…it surely makes my pretty head hurt:thumbsup:While I don’t want to get this thread off track, it always sort of bothered me that there is no clear answer from the Bishops or the Vatican regarding SSPX Masses. It seems to go something like this:
Q: What’s the status of the SSPX?
A: Their Bishops and clergy are suspended a divinis.
Q: What’s that mean?
A: They have no canonical status.
Q: What’s that mean?
A: None of your business. It’s an internal matter.
Q: So, are their Sacraments valid?
A: Yes, but illicit.
Q: So, does an SSPX Mass fulfill my Sunday obligation?
A: Well … ummm … wringing of hands … errr … we’d rather you didn’t go.
Q: So, it’s a sin for me to go, then?
A: No … It’s not a sin… more wringing of hands As long as your’e only going because you prefer the Latin Mass.
Q: So, it’s perfectly O.K. for me to attend an SSPX Mass, then?
A: No… even more wringing of hands… Uhhh… It’s still illicit… we’d rather you didn’t go.
Q: So, what’s the status of SSPX Masses?
A: Valid, but illicit.
Q: What’s that MEAN then?
A: None of your business. It’s an internal matter.
Q: ARGHHH! runs away in frustration
A: Phew…