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EasterJoy
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How is it that you object to other people “invalidating” you, but you feel free to assume that the Cat Man doesn’t care what anyone else thinks? As far as admitting you could be wrong, you’ve never remotely indicated that you could accept maybe you really are a man, after all.My compliment was about your personality in general. I stand by that comment.
I apologize for misgendering you and I forgive you for misgendering me.
It’s no where near the same thing for a cis woman to behave like a man. My challenge does not apply to you. And again, my apologies for misgendering you.
Since I am a woman, my behavior is not disingenuous. And, no, I don’t go out of my way. I don’t wear makeup or pink clothes or high heels. Why do you continue to make false assumptions, such as your comment about my Adam’s apple? I have no need to obscure my Adam’s apple because it can hardly be seen. You seem to have some stereotypical image of a trans woman in your mind and you are projecting your assumptions on to me. Please stop that kind of prejudice.
I have never gotten any surgery to look like a woman. Please stop making false assumptions about me. As I have already explained, gender variance is well established in history and across all cultures. Millions of transgender people are alive today. It is totally unfair to try and compare that to one person pretending to be a cat. There is no “bandwagon” for cat-people.
I have never rejected the idea that I could be wrong about my beliefs. That is yet another false assumption of yours.
I can’t remember the last time anyone called me a freak. I’m actually pretty normal. I doubt that “Cat Man” cares what anyone else thinks of him.
As for the rest, I was not talking about you specifically, but about transgendered people I have actual experience with. The OP, for instance, wants to have surgery; this whole thread is not about you. Others do try to deceive and obscure, and they say so openly. Some want to get married and do not let on that they’ve transitioned even to prospective spouses. To have you say “if people feel deceived, then perhaps they should not have made assumptions” when you know that these rationalizations exist is disingenuous.
There are people, and always have been, who are convinced they have an identity other than the one their family and society tells them they were born with, and not just that they have the “wrong” gender. In rare cases, they may believe that one of their appendages is a mistake, and feel enormous relief when the limb is lost. (This is called Body Integrity Identity Disorder.) Were these people, too made incorrectly, and were “supposed” to have been born with one hand? thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/05/28/cutting-desire.html
The way you write, you seem to be making Gender Identity Disorder out to be this situation where someone has been objectively born into the “wrong” body, as if others with different identity disorders have issues that are “merely” mental, while yours is “real”. Not a body that one’s brain won’t accept for reasons having to do with issues in the brain itself, but truly in some cosmic sense the wrong body. Other people have “a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary”, but that’s not you. For you, yes, the body and the DNA do lie. Yet you say “I have never rejected the idea that I could be wrong about my beliefs.”
This is entirely pointless. You have a strong conviction, I’m not trying to talk you out of it. All I ask is that those of us who do not believe you are a woman do have evidence to the contrary, and we do not deserve to be dismissed for giving weight to what is generally considered a preponderance of evidence concerning your physical gender. If you’re right, at least admit that we have more than sufficient reason to come back with a different verdict.