Transgenderism Has No Basis in Science or Law

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Transgenderism Has No Basis in Science or Law

n a domain in which the proposed “therapies” are so drastic, it is not too much to ask for a solid, evidence-based statement of who is being treated, for what, and why, before writing a prescription or passing a law.
In recent months, there has been an explosion of highly controversial legislation, threatened executive edicts, and heavy-handed federal mandates regarding discrimination and public accommodation laws that require—among other things—public and private institutions, businesses, and schools to allow biological males who self-identify as females to use the toilet facilities and locker rooms of females (and vice versa). These developments have been accompanied by a chorus of pundits and editors expressing derision for “bigoted” opponents and cheerleading the valiant proponents of “transgender equality.”
What is missing from the conversation about these laws is any sound legal or scientific basis for the proposed changes. Who, exactly, are the groups who are supposed to be protected or accommodated? On what legal basis are those groups to be protected or accommodated? What are the consequences and implications for the larger society?

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Well said. What has been done seems to rest only with decisions made by the American Psychiatric Association that is connected to lobbying by LGBT activists.

ncregister.com/daily-news/psychiatrys-new-normal-transgendered-persons

Without sound research then we need to reevaluate the situation. Gender theory or Gender Ideology denies factual information, and the medical community, not judges or lobbying groups, should decide based on the evidence. Adopting a personal sexual identity and then mandating it by passing laws recognizing certain behaviors as normative without compelling evidence is not good for the individual or society as a whole.

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Proof that gay activists are in control over the politicians, the media and the medical profession.
 
Are you using calls for scientific proof or lurid stories of some man using this as an excuse to look at nude women as a way to deal with your discomfort? Why don’t you try living the life of someone who lives somewhere in the spectrum of the transgender world and see what you think then? Do you think anyone would volunteer to be the subject of unchecked public ridicule on a lark?

The reality is that many people that identify somewhere in the transgender world live on the far edges of society; in poverty and highly vulnerable. Switching between living life as one gender or the other is hard; though not always fully required. Many relationships change or are broken and people are tested well beyond what many ever expected. No, none of it is ever perfect, no surgery is perfect (or always required), and knowing what the best answer is takes diligence. Be glad the answer for many of you appears to be what society expects from you, you have no idea what a privileged that is.

Every group has their bad apples. However the reality, whatever you want to believe, is that there are many decent people with good morals that live with transgender issues. They are normal people that simply are trying to make it through life without your condemnations and interfering with or upsetting other people in the process.
 
PJH_74 said:
Are you using calls for scientific proof or lurid stories of some man using this as an excuse to look at nude women as a way to deal with your discomfort?
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Scientific proof has nothing to do with looking at pictures.
PJH_74 said:
Why don’t you try living the life of someone who lives somewhere in the spectrum of the transgender world and see what you think then? Do you think anyone would volunteer to be the subject of unchecked public ridicule on a lark?
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Living as a transgender is also unscientific.
PJH_74 said:
The reality is that many people that identify somewhere in the transgender world live on the far edges of society; in poverty and highly vulnerable. Switching between living life as one gender or the other is hard; though not always fully required. Many relationships change or are broken and people are tested well beyond what many ever expected. No, none of it is ever perfect, no surgery is perfect (or always required), and knowing what the best answer is takes diligence. Be glad the answer for many of you appears to be what society expects from you, you have no idea what a privileged that is.
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The reality is that normal people should not be forced to accommodate themselves to the very small percentage of dysfunctional people, regrettably on the margins of society like most mentally ill. Deviancy should not be elevated or even replace what is normal and healthy. Little girls should not share public toilets with mentally disordered men.
PJH_74 said:
Every group has their bad apples. However the reality, whatever you want to believe, is that there are many decent people with good morals that live with transgender issues. They are normal people that simply are trying to make it through life without your condemnations and interfering with or upsetting other people in the process.
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Exactly, bad apples should not be allowed to spoil the bigger barrel of healthy apples.
 
Lost_Sheep said:
Here is an interesting counter-argument. I’m not saying I agree with this; I’m just offering this to add to the discussion.
sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150213112317.htm
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The question is, how small:

"According to the researchers the article does have some limitations due to the* small numbers of individuals studied** and therefore conclusions should be drawn with caution. Safer recommends that further research focus on specific biologic mechanisms for gender identity."*

The article, I’m afraid, is just hearsay.
 
zamyrabyrd said:
Living as a transgender is also unscientific.
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…or as Catholic taking on faith that bread becomes Jesus every weekend?
zamyrabyrd said:
Deviancy should not be elevated or even replace what is normal and healthy. Little girls should not share public toilets with mentally disordered men.
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Why is this assumed to be sexual? Bathrooms have stalls with doors and virtually no transgender person wants to share their situation. There are also plenty of single person bathrooms which most transgender people prefer to use. There are also laws in place to address disorderly conduct no matter who you are and transgender people are at a distinct disadvantage no matter what the situation. Why does it seem that no one cares about the little boys? is it only that male to female transsexuals are deviants and the just as common female to male aren’t?
 
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…or as Catholic taking on faith that bread becomes Jesus every weekend?
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Render to science the things that are science, and to faith the things that are faith. The evidence that gender dysphoria is a disorder, political correctness aside, is more compelling than its being normal.
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Why is this assumed to be sexual? Bathrooms have stalls with doors and virtually no transgender person wants to share their situation. There are also plenty of single person bathrooms which most transgender people prefer to use. There are also laws in place to address disorderly conduct no matter who you are and transgender people are at a distinct disadvantage no matter what the situation. Why does it seem that no one cares about the little boys? is it only that male to female transsexuals are deviants and the just as common female to male aren’t?
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Women transgenders would not necessarily be interested in little boys. I don’t think guys in a bathroom would be overly concerned if a biological woman entered their premises, but fascinated, perhaps. The fact that some male cross dressers already have families is cause for great concern for big bucks around girls adolescent, and up.
 
zamyrabyrd said:
Render to science the things that are science, and to faith the things that are faith. The evidence that gender dysphoria is a disorder, political correctness aside, is more compelling than its being normal.
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Convenient side step. You do realize the only sub group of the transgender spectrum that has any diagnosis by the medical and psychological community are those that medically need to alter their body. A diagnosis is required for medical coverage
zamyrabyrd said:
Women transgenders would not necessarily be interested in little boys. I don’t think guys in a bathroom would be overly concerned if a biological woman entered their premises, but fascinated, perhaps. The fact that some male cross dressers already have families is cause for great concern for big bucks around girls adolescent, and up.
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A genetic woman on male hormones will be quite hairy and genetic male on female hormones will likely be impotent. The fact that you’d generally conclude anyone in the transgendered category to be a rapist or a child molester shows your ignorance on any of the topics.
 
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Convenient side step. You do realize the only sub group of the transgender spectrum that has any diagnosis by the medical and psychological community are those that medically need to alter their body. A diagnosis is required for medical coverage.
A genetic woman on male hormones will be quite hairy and genetic male on female hormones will likely be impotent. The fact that you’d generally conclude anyone in the transgendered category to be a rapist or a child molester shows your ignorance on any of the topics.
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Don’t call me ignorant, OK? There is no need to mutilate one’s body. In fact it is forbidden in the Christian canon.
I wouldn’t trust a cross dresser around any of my children, period, particularly in the locker or bathroom.
 
zamyrabyrd said:
Don’t call me ignorant, OK?
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I have no problem with civility, but please consider your inferences to sexual exploitation.
zamyrabyrd said:
There is no need to mutilate one’s body. In fact it is forbidden in the Christian canon. I wouldn’t trust a cross dresser around any of my children, period, particularly in the locker or bathroom.
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Mutilation is a matter of perspective. Bathrooms can be addressed; especially with single person ones and civility. Locker rooms I’ll give you are the hardest and likely need the most give on the transgendered community’s part; mainly by changing outside them.
 
PJH_74 said:
I have no problem with civility, but please consider your inferences to sexual exploitation.

Mutilation is a matter of perspective. Bathrooms can be addressed; especially with single person ones and civility. Locker rooms I’ll give you are the hardest and likely need the most give on the transgendered community’s part; mainly by changing outside them.
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Why are we not concerned with our daughters exposure at formative age to male genitals?

How would a woman feel when she is alone in a bathroom and 3 biologic males enter?
 
buffalo said:
Why are we not concerned with our daughters exposure at formative age to male genitals?
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Why are we not worried about our sons seeing female genitals at a formative age? Why are we assuming any transgendered person wants someone to see their genitals? Many don’t want to see them themselves.
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How would a woman feel when she is alone in a bathroom and 3 biologic males enter?
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That’s a pretty hypothetical. I didn’t know there were roving gangs of transgender people doing so. Seriously though, what is your proposal? On a macro level it would seem to be single use bathrooms, which are increasingly popular for other reasons. At a micro level it would seem to be human sensitivity to each other on both sides.
 
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that needs treatment, not accommodation. Gender is not in our heads, it’s in our chromosomes. A man has an X and a Y chromosome, and a woman has two X chromosomes.

If I believe I’m the President, do I get to live in the White House? No, because in reality I’m not the President. If I believe I’m an elephant, can I live in the zoo? No, because in reality I’m not an elephant. If I believe I’m a woman, do I use the women’s bathroom or locker room or play on the girl’s basketball team? No, because in reality I’m not a woman. See how that works?
 
PJH_74 said:
Why are we not worried about our sons seeing female genitals at a formative age? Why are we assuming any transgendered person wants someone to see their genitals? Many don’t want to see them themselves.

That’s a pretty hypothetical. I didn’t know there were roving gangs of transgender people doing so. Seriously though, what is your proposal? On a macro level it would seem to be single use bathrooms, which are increasingly popular for other reasons. At a micro level it would seem to be human sensitivity to each other on both sides.
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Either case applies. We are leaving 99% to be possibly scarred by these nonsensical laws.

In a school setting make a private bathroom for ANYONE who wishes privacy.

So you think this won’t happen? It will. Restaurants, highway rest stops and more…
 
PJH_74 said:
Why are we not worried about our sons seeing female genitals at a formative age? Why are we assuming any transgendered person wants someone to see their genitals? Many don’t want to see them themselves.

That’s a pretty hypothetical. I didn’t know there were roving gangs of transgender people doing so. Seriously though, what is your proposal? On a macro level it would seem to be single use bathrooms, which are increasingly popular for other reasons. At a micro level it would seem to be human sensitivity to each other on both sides.
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What would prevent 3 normal men from going into a women’s room? In the past in a public setting it would be surely noticed and dealt with. Now there are no natural safeguards.
 
PJH_74 said:
Why are we not worried about our sons seeing female genitals at a formative age? Why are we assuming any transgendered person wants someone to see their genitals? Many don’t want to see them themselves.
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The danger is not -merely- the sight of human features.
The danger is un-reality. Deception. Misrepresentation. Confusion. And in this case the subject matter just happens to be sexuality, which is one of the fundamental elements of being human.

Deception and confusion are not good for the security of children period. It destabilizes them. It’s not much different than a child observing a man physically abuse someone in the house. Human beings are not really designed to act that way. A child witnessing those kind of actions and behaviors learns that life is un-reasonable and chaotic. Those kind of actions and behaviors violate reason. And reason is necessary for a human being to be secure and flourish.
 
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