Travel Ban Unconstitutional? Well, Democrats Did It, Too.

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sunnygirl807 said:
Why isn’t Saudi, Pakistan, Turkey, Bangladesh, or Indonesia on the list? There are predominately Muslim countries.
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Because it isn’t a ban on Muslims per se, i.e., there are 53 Muslim majority nations, and only 7 of those nations are considered hotbeds for Islamic radicalization. People coming from these nations will be “vetted” and detained for a short while if they are cleared of any suspicious doings/backgrounds.

I hardly think this is unconstitutional (it’s been done before at any rate).
 
josie_L said:
Because it isn’t a ban on Muslims per se, i.e., there are 53 Muslim majority nations, and only 7 of those nations are considered hotbeds for Islamic radicalization. People coming from these nations will be “vetted” and detained for a short while if they are cleared of any suspicious doings/backgrounds.

I hardly think this is unconstitutional (it’s been done before at any rate).
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And Saudi, Pakistan, and Afghanistan are not hotbeds?
 
sunnygirl807 said:
And Saudi, Pakistan, and Afghanistan are not hotbeds?
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For the umpteenth time, because they are not failed states that are controlled by terror organizations. The list of 7 countries, btw, is one that was created by the Obama administration.
 
dvdjs said:
We’ll see how this all works out in court, and how the specifics of the Cater and Obama action are or are not the same as Trump.

But here is a terrific piece on the subject that exposes the little boys in the White House, who did this all by themselves.

lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas

Trump may very well have his clock cleaned. Can’t wait to get all of the juicy details from FOIA requests
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Wow, no bias in that article! [/extreme sarcasm mode]
 
joshman1 said:
And yet you think you’re smarter than the pope and our bishops?
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On some issues he has his own unique sets of talent, time and treasure that not even the Catholic elite have.

Oh, I should point out too----where’s all of this “the Pope and bishops are smart” comments on threads about so-called gay “marriage” and abortion?
 
SuperLuigi said:
On some issues he has his own unique sets of talent, time and treasure that not even the Catholic elite have.

Oh, I should point out too----where’s all of this “the Pope and bishops are smart” comments on threads about so-called gay “marriage” and abortion?
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I have never said they are wrong, especially not as flatly as you. Either way - this should be an easy bipartisan issue
 
SuperLuigi said:
On some issues he has his own unique sets of talent, time and treasure that not even the Catholic elite have.

Oh, I should point out too----where’s all of this “the Pope and bishops are smart” comments on threads about so-called gay “marriage” and abortion?
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+1 👍
 
sallybutler said:
No. I am suggesting that the countries selected by Carter and Obama were narrow and specific to countries that the U.S. had immediate and current conflicts with.

Btw, I think Trump missed a few countries.
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What countries are those?
 
joshman1 said:
I have never said they are wrong, especially not as flatly as you. Either way - this should be an easy bipartisan issue
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I agree. It should be an easy bipartisan issue. Keep people out who are not verified and set-up safe zones in Syria and Iraq.
 
josie_L said:
Because it isn’t a ban on Muslims per se, i.e., there are 53 Muslim majority nations, and only 7 of those nations are considered hotbeds for Islamic radicalization. People coming from these nations will be “vetted” and detained for a short while if they are cleared of any suspicious doings/backgrounds.

I hardly think this is unconstitutional (it’s been done before at any rate).
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Since when do foreigners have Constitutional rights?
 
Sy_Noe said:
That’s what I was thinking. Otoh I don’t know if those countries have any Trump hotels or other property with Trump’s name on them. It appears Trump doesn’t have business interests in his chosen 7.

nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-muslim-ban-excludes-countries-linked-businesses-article-1.2957956

A 5 yr old American citizen and Maryland resident was detained and kept from his mother.

baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/01/29/senator-maryland-5-year-old-among-those-detained-at-dulles/

deathandtaxesmag.com/316692/5-year-old-detained-dulles-airport-kept-from-mother/
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So then why didn’t Obama add these countries to the list?
 
“Well, they did it, too” seems to be the answer for people trying to do an immoral, indefensible thing. Has anyone read the stories where American citizens, born and bred, have been “detained” at airports because Skank-in-Chief’s “executive order?” I’m a pro-life, Atheist, gay American. I will do everything I can because of my patriotism to destroy anything that Skank-in-Chief tries to do. Have you all looked on line at the porno his First VVhore made? Such a lovely lady. Finally, we have Lisa Douglas as First VVhore. Do you think she’ll make “hotscakes” for her latest “husband?”
 
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