Trayvon Martin: Before the world heard the cries

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"Priest’s perspective on Trayvon Martin case
By Matt C. Abbott

I asked Father Angel Sotelo, a priest of the Catholic Diocese of Fresno, for his perspective on the Trayvon Martin tragedy.

Father Sotelo’s comments are as follows:

[Regarding] the Trayvon Martin case, I would step back from the racial tension and look at how this started. Basically, the 911 dispatcher was right to ask in so many words, ‘Are you, George Zimmerman, a private citizen, not a police officer, walking around that neighborhood with a loaded firearm, following an African-American youth who has not harmed you or even threatened to harm you?’ When Zimmerman responded yes, he should have heeded the advice that followed, ‘You don’t need to be doing that.’"…

Blue excerpt from: renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/120328
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I believe the priest is seriously out of line.
He is placing words and ideas into the mouth of the dispatcher that may or may not have been there.
He is also implying a number of things that may not have been and have very little evidence one way or the other.
 
Calgar said:
Yeah, the gubment will protect you. Just put your trust in them. :rolleyes:
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pnewton said:
Government. I do not think the use of black phonetic spelling will help in easing the charge that this is a racial issue. We should be sensisitive to others.
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Funny.

I thought that it was a highlight upon the uneducated.
I didn’t for a second entertain the idea that skin color entered into that particular distortion of the word.
 
pnewton said:
There is a provision in their law where a judge finds, in a separate ruling, that this was a case of self defense and civil action is then barred. However, we might see the possibility that this law is challenged based not on the actions of Zimmerman during the conflict, but rather his initial pursuit that initiated the chain of events. Realize that even if Zimmerman is found not guilty, so also is Martin not guilty of any wrong-doing. So what are we to say? It was an accident? If so, in such cases, the reckless conduct that led to this accident might be open to civil suit even if it requires a challenge to Florida law. Remember, even federal law, like Obamacare, is subject to judicial review.

On this, we could use a lawyer’s (name removed by moderator)ut. On the self-defense issue, I think it would be good to hear from someone in Florida. A clerk* there* probably knows more than a lawyer elsewhere.
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If Zimmerman is found not guilty by reason of self-defense, then it logically goes that Martin is guilty of attacking Zimmerman. In order for Zimmerman to be innocent, Martin would have to be guilty and vis versa.

I would assume that the prosecutor has more evidence to go on than just that Zimmerman might have followed Martin. Or I would hope so anyway. The defense would have a field day if following him is all they’re going on.
 
vz71 said:
Funny.

I thought that it was a highlight upon the uneducated.
I didn’t for a second entertain the idea that skin color entered into that particular distortion of the word.
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Perhaps. Context can get lost. In this case, it was carrying guns and how a random person can shoot someone else. I did not think that it might be because Trayvon was considered uneducated. I have not read anywhere anything about his intelligence, other than that he was in high school.

Still, making fun of the uneducated is not any better.
 
Dawnia said:
If Zimmerman is found not guilty by reason of self-defense, then it logically goes that Martin is guilty of attacking Zimmerman. In order for Zimmerman to be innocent, Martin would have to be guilty and vis versa.
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This would only be true if the burden of guilt was preponderance of evidence, not beyond reasonable doubt. Could not have Martin been acting in self-defense even as Zimmerman was? After all, Martin was initially the one doing nothing but walking home.
 
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