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ringil
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Yes, if this is case in this situation I totally agree.
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bbarrick8383
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That’s the thing, it seems everyone wants to assume based on hearsay. I’ve approached a known thief, but I did so with as friendly of a demeanor as I could. I started the conversation with “Excuse me, sir.” And it ended with an apology and return of the stolen property. But I don’t want to guess what happened here based on MSNBC or Fox news as they both want to fuel a different fire.
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bbarrick8383
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Zimmerman may very well be guilty of a hate raged murder here, but I’m not the one to make that judgement based on what I’ve heard an neither are you.
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havana1
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It’s not “hearsay” that he IGNORED the 911 operator’s explicit instructions to not follow the kid. That’s on the 911 transcript. It’s also not “hearsay” that he used some not-so-nice words in reference to the kid, hence the word ‘expletive’ being used in the transcript. You’re not suggesting there’s some MSM conspiracy to doctor that 911 call to make the guy look worse, are you?
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ringil
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That was my point. Sarcasm doesn’t translate well.
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bbarrick8383
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A hardly condemning evidence.
Also, a friend of mine and I were jumped by 4 black guys when we were in the military. You think he and I didn’t use some racist language? You bet we did. Does that make me a racist? No it doesn’t. When people get in situations like that it happens.
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ringil
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I was recently mugged by a guy who happened to be black. I called him a few things but using racist terms never occurred to me.
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maryjk
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Ignoring the dispatcher’s instructions saved one young mother.
I don’t know that I could hold ignoring their instructions against him. They aren’t always the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Since I haven’t been watching the news…MSM or Fox…have the police concluded that the tape included a racist term? Last I knew they were debating *oon, goon and something else.
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bbarrick8383
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I was 18 at the time, we used non racist words as well. The pout is, regardless of skin color, you still called him a few things. Does that automatically mean you hate the guy? No.I was recently mugged by a guy who happened to be black. I called him a few things but using racist terms never occurred to me.
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catharina
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I’m definitely free to state
that a law-abiding child did NOT cause his own death.
So how does your “response” fit
my earlier statement? I said:
“How can a law-abiding child be blamed for his own death?
What a huge twisting of the facts.”
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catharina
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Got it! Really.That was my point. Sarcasm doesn’t translate well.
A HOODIE is objectionable? To whom? … and WHY?
Guess lots of us missed that news flash.
“Hoodies are Subversive.”
Warn the toddlers.
Close the school playgrounds.
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ringil
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Oh, you know, its the low hung pants, and the rap music, and, and, they are always the ones committing crimes. They just look scary is all. I certainly wouldn’t want that sort in MY neighborhood.
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catharina
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As I said:Oh, you know, its the low hung pants, and the rap music, and, and, they are always the ones committing crimes. THey just look scary is all. I certainly wouldn’t want that sort in MY neighborhood.
gather the toddlers - at once!
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ringil
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Raise the walls!
Post the sentinels!
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bbarrick8383
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No, your right, he didn’t pull the trigger and kill himself.
The questions are, what are the step by step details that got it to the point of someone else pulling a gun out and shooting him?
It sounds like Zimmerman should have kept his distance, yes, is he guilty of murder for not doing so? Maybe, maybe not, neither of us know. Did Zimmerman think the guy had a gun? Did Zimmerman approach him hatefully? Did he approach him respectfully? How did Martin respond?
I know you want to make it emotional just as much as Sharpton wants to make it about race, and others about gun control.
I think I’ll do the wise thing and hold back judgment on the parties involved until the details are revealed in the case through a source other than Huffington or Fox.
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Havard
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Of course the POTUS is held to a different standard, he’s the POTUS. He is the elected official in the highest office in the nation, and he is supposed to speak on behalf of Americans. Official comments are either previously written or at least reviewed by a staff of writers. I’m sure you know that many of his words are focus-tested before we ever hear them. Not saying that was necessarily the case here, but it is demonstrative of a very different public speaking standard.
Geraldo Rivera represents no one and therefore speaks for no one. You can be sure he doesn’t have anyone write, review, or focus-test what he says. That doesn’t mean his words were appropriate, but put them in the context of his role. He’s one of a legion of “pundits”.
Further, your colorful praise of the Presidents words is all good and well, but you conveniently avoided to address what I took issue with in his words altogether.
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catharina
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**I’ll continue doing the wiser thing and state that this child did not
cause his own death. He was law-abiding, he chased no one, he
was killed by somone who though he looked “suspicious.”
That’s all very clear to me.
Neither Fox or Huffington need tell me that.**
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catharina
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My bank posts a sign that states:
“No sunglasses.
No hoodies.
No baseball caps.”
My bank, like most banks, has a
vested interest in confirming identiies.
I’ve never seen such a sign outside a bank.
“No sunglasses.
No hoodies.
No baseball caps.”
My bank, like most banks, has a
vested interest in confirming identiies.
I’ve never seen such a sign outside a bank.
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bbarrick8383
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So, if I’m a concealed carrier, and I approach someone and strike up a conversation. The person becomes irritated for whatever reason and attacks me, I have no right to defend myself if I did not start the conflict? I’m guilty of murder simply because I approached someone and started a conversation?
Or, do you need the details of the conversation to condemn me?
Yea, I see a lot of emotion in this.
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