Tridentine mass questions

[JKirkLVNV]

jtnova:

I would appreciate it if many on this board e-mail our bishop at www.drvc.org and ask him why he wont let the Indult mass be said or in any church. St Agnes, the diocese parish Cathedral where we go (sometimes when my family and I are not driving to the TLM) has mass in spanish, Polish I think, all kinds of Languages, and wont allow in this or any of the churches the Indult. You see, the Pope is a good man, but he does not know what is going on here in America, just how liberal it has become here. The Bishops are running amok and no one is looking after them. If me and the thousands, and it is thousands here in Long Island who attend masses said by St Pius V, St Pius X, and many other Independent Traditional priests here are called schismatic, then so be it. The Mass was never to be tampered with and Vatican II was not supposed to throw away the TLM, but supplement it with the Novus Ordo, as Pope Paul VI said, but the left of the church just ran away with things

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Canon1417 gives you the right to appeal to the Holy Father: “In virtue of the primacy of the Roman Pontiff, anyone of the faithful is free to bring to or introduce before the Holy See a case either contentious or penal in any grade of of judgement and at any stage of litigation.” Further, Canon 212/2: “The Christian faithful are free to make known their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires to the pastors of the Church.” Surely there are canon lawyers sympathetic to the TLM who could help you. I do not disparge any priest or bishop, they are our shepherds and they hold within themselves the indelible mark and character of Christ’s Own Priesthood. That said, however, they are amazing to watch sometimes.

 

[system]

If you are lucky enough to be in a “Conservative Parish” then you have a chance, I am in NYC, where liberalism reigns supreme and the ultra liberal Voice of the Faithful (check out that website if you really want to see heretical and schismatic) is the voice that gets all of the press. Conservatives by nature are a proud, quiet , humble bunch that get pushed and pushed, until like the last election they wake like a sleeping lion. It will only take time until the middle of the road Catholic combines with the Conservatives and Trads and put an end to this madness, but they are not all educated (many dont even know about Vatican II and what was changed!). Bishop Murphy has told us twice to go to St Pius X in Farmingville as he said "that is where he instituted the Indult Mass, so I guess that they are NOT schismatic.

JKirkLVNV:

Canon1417 gives you the right to appeal to the Holy Father: “In virtue of the primacy of the Roman Pontiff, anyone of the faithful is free to bring to or introduce before the Holy See a case either contentious or penal in any grade of of judgement and at any stage of litigation.” Further, Canon 212/2: “The Christian faithful are free to make known their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires to the pastors of the Church.” Surely there are canon lawyers sympathetic to the TLM who could help you. I do not disparge any priest or bishop, they are our shepherds and they hold within themselves the indelible mark and character of Christ’s Own Priesthood. That said, however, they are amazing to watch sometimes.

 

[katherine2]

jtnova,

I am getting confused. First you say your are in NYC, that den of liberalism under those left wing loonies like Spellman, O’Connor and Egan. But you also speak of Rockville Center and Bishop “Mansion” Murphy. Where are you? (geographically, I mean).