TRINITY...Is It True ?

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According to the Bible, in the book of Revelation, on judgement day, there will be a throne of God. People who are holy and righteous will worship Him.

NOW…if Trinity is true (3 persons), why is there only 1 throne? And… Who among the 3 will SIT on the throne?

The Bible frequently says that God is ONE. Not three.

Galatians 3:20 A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is ONE.

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is ONE.

Mark 12:29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE.

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God certainly believes that He is Triune. 🙂 He is Three in One and One in Three.

Without the Trinity, St. Matt. 28:19 and 2 Cor. 13:14 don’t make too much sense! Both the Father and the Son are depicted as sitting on thrones in different places in Scripture. John 5:22 certainly indicates that the Son is our Judge. 🙂
 
To expand on my post, the throne in Revelations is referring to the throne of the Person of the Godhead.
 
Rumpelstiltskin said:
You didn’t answer. So who sits on the throne?

God or Jesus or Holy Spirit
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Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, at the same time. For that reason your question does not make sense. It’s like on that one “Seinfeld” episode where George’s father asks, “You have the rooster, the hen, and the chicken. The rooster goes with the chicken, so who’s having sex with the hen?” The question itself is wrong!
 
scottm said:
Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, at the same time. For that reason your question does not make sense. It’s like on that one “Seinfeld” episode where George’s father asks, “You have the rooster, the hen, and the chicken. The rooster goes with the chicken, so who’s having sex with the hen?” The question itself is wrong!
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Your assumption is wrong too. The Bible says the lamb of God lays BESIDE the throne.

PS. The answer for your question is Nobody.

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Rumpelstiltskin said:
You didn’t answer. So who sits on the throne?

God or Jesus or Holy Spirit

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I did answer, two posts down.

edit: Any chance of getting you to give an indication of where you are coming from, or should I presume you are a mainstream Unitarian-Universalist?
 
So I take it that my Trinity-affirming Bible verses weren’t much help? :rolleyes: 😃
 
Soldier_X said:
So I take it that my Trinity-affirming Bible verses weren’t much help? :rolleyes: 😃
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Trinity? What Trinity? If there are 3 of them shouldn’t there be 3 thrones ???

1 throne = 1 God.

Which implies that the concept of Trinity is flawed.

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And…What’s that picture supposed to mean?

3 separate gods? Or 1 God?

Logic: If all these 3 physically depicted characters is ONE God, then there must be 1 common entity between them.

THE SPIRIT.

It is clear then that Jesus is God because of the divine Spirit in Him, God is God because God is Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God because it is the Spirit from God.

There is no Tri-nity. There is only ONE God.

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If there are three of them there should be three thrones? No.

England at one time had two monarchs jointly co-ruling the country - King William III and Queen Mary II.

Each of them ‘sat on the throne of England’. Meaning each held the office of monarch. But note the expression remains singular - ‘sit on the throne’ - even when there is more than one monarch. It doesn’t become ‘sit on the thrones’ even when there are two monarchs co-ruling.

And even though there were two monarchs, there was still only ONE throne of England - ONE office of monarch, held jointly by two people.

Put it this way - there’s ONE bench of the US Supreme Court - meaning one OFFICE of Justice of the Supreme Court, even though there are nine judges sitting on the bench and sharing the office.
 
Jesus said he is “the alpha and the omega” (see Revelation). :bible1:
 
LilyM said:
If there are three of them there should be three thrones? No.

England at one time had two monarchs jointly co-ruling the country - King William III and Queen Mary II.

Each of them ‘sat on the throne of England’. Meaning each held the office of monarch. But note the expression remains singular - ‘sit on the throne’ - even when there is more than one monarch. It doesn’t become ‘sit on the thrones’ even when there are two monarchs co-ruling.

And even though there were two monarchs, there was still only ONE throne of England - ONE office of monarch, held jointly by two people.

Put it this way - there’s ONE bench of the US Supreme Court - meaning one OFFICE of Justice of the Supreme Court, even though there are nine judges sitting on the bench and sharing the office.
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The three monarchs are 3 different persons with different wills.

But this is not the way with God. Jesus works the will of God the Father. The Father is in Him and He is in the Father. There is only 1 will. The will of God.

The throne is singular, God is ONE as He clearly indicated.

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Rumpelstiltskin said:
The three monarchs are 3 different persons with different wills.

But this is not the way with God. Jesus works the will of God the Father. The Father is in Him and He is in the Father. There is only 1 will. The will of God.

The throne is singular, God is ONE as He clearly indicated.

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You are seriously confused - are you saying people CAN rule jointly (occupy one throne or one bench) because they DON’T have just one will? :confused:

On the contrary, 2 different persons can and do, as co-monarchs, have ONE singular will. Mary and William didn’t make contradictory (or even unilateral) laws, but they DID always make joint ones, signed and enacted in the name of both, reflecting the will of both which was united when they were acting as rulers, even though there were two of them.

A court jury of 12 people, much more often than not, also has but ONE will and hands down ONE unanimous verdict agreed upon by all 12 jurors, making ONE decision that is the decision of all of them.
 
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