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LoveJesus
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I’d like to read the rest of the article but when I click on the link it goes to a blog…I can’t find the story there.
Edit: Nevermind…I found it. This link would be better to use hotair.com/archives/2009/05/18/catholic-college-president-obama-protesters-at-nd-were-religious-vigilantes/
Edit: Nevermind…I found it. This link would be better to use hotair.com/archives/2009/05/18/catholic-college-president-obama-protesters-at-nd-were-religious-vigilantes/
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Michael_C
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***–noun ***1.a disorderly or riotous crowd of people.2.a crowd bent on or engaged in lawless violence.3.any group or collection of persons or things.4.the common people; the masses; populace or multitude.5.a criminal gang, esp. one involved in drug trafficking, extortion, etc.6.**the Mob, **Mafia (def. 1). 7.Sociology. a group of persons stimulating one another to excitement and losing ordinary rational control over their activity.8.a flock, herd, or drove of animals: *a mob of sheep. *
***–adjective ***9.of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a lawless, irrational, disorderly, or riotous crowd: *mob rule; mob instincts. *10.directed at or reflecting the lowest intellectual level of the common people: *mob appeal; the mob mentality. *
***–verb (used with object) ***11.to crowd around noisily, as from curiosity or hostility: *Spectators mobbed the courtroom. *12.to attack in a riotous mob: *The crowd mobbed the consulate. *13.Fox Hunting. to chop (a fox).
I think “Mob” is a poor description. I believe the belief system of the people protesting would be recognized by our Lord and all the Saints. I have no doubt it’s unrecognizable to him.
***–adjective ***9.of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a lawless, irrational, disorderly, or riotous crowd: *mob rule; mob instincts. *10.directed at or reflecting the lowest intellectual level of the common people: *mob appeal; the mob mentality. *
***–verb (used with object) ***11.to crowd around noisily, as from curiosity or hostility: *Spectators mobbed the courtroom. *12.to attack in a riotous mob: *The crowd mobbed the consulate. *13.Fox Hunting. to chop (a fox).
I think “Mob” is a poor description. I believe the belief system of the people protesting would be recognized by our Lord and all the Saints. I have no doubt it’s unrecognizable to him.
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Vonier
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“The Jews, the Jews, all you worry about is that one issue. Can’t you see what we’ve done for Germany as a whole? Pay no attention to that holocaust behind the curtain!”
Joseph Goebbels
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LoveJesus
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While I do think that the protests at ND were generally peaceful, I don’t see anything peaceful about interrupting the President during his speech (or pointing at him with a Rosary, a sacremental object…where’s the respect for that?), no matter what the opinion of him is.
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Catholic20064
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I guess I was part of the “mob” as I attended mass on the South Quad and listened to speakers extolling the virtues of supporting innocent life. I was part of the “mob” as I prayed the rosary with the graduating seniors who did not want to support Notre Dame’s decision to honor the most pro-abortion president in history. Liberal Catholics didn’t convert me to Catholicism. Real Catholics did.
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St_Francis
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The Rosary is not a sacramental object but a sacramental: an object which has been blessed.
I had heard that the audience was quite approving of Obama’s speech. I have never really heard that applauding comments was considered "unpeaceful?
I think that you need to be careful not to fall into the liberals’ trap of their holding you to your standards of civility while holding themselves only to their own. What happens then is that they take every opportunity to bully and indoctrinate, and we are constantly apologizing for being rude. Consider the number of conservative speakers who have been disinvited and heckled, and have even had things thrown at them at US universities over much lesser issues than that of killing millions of babies.
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Corki
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Another “Catholic” university to cross off my list. (sigh) List gettting shorter.and shorter.
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OriginalJS
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I haven’t seen any reports of mob violence. I don’t see any cause for embarassment. If ND is the university it claims to be, it has to allow diversity of opinion, whether some people agree with the dissent or not. Both wing nut conservatives and liberals often fall into the trap of giving lip service to “free speech,” but then turn around and try to squelch what they don’t want to hear. Thank goodness most of us can see through this kind of hyperbole.
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OriginalJS
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Down through history, it has been, and continues to be “real Catholics” who are, and always have been, the true Church. They weather the storms of protest, change, untenable situations and occasionally despicable persons, with faith and courage. They keep going, like that battery bunny or the Timex watch that “takes a licking and keeps on ticking.”
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tm30
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Not sure what the problem is. Sacramentals are always appropriate at exorcisms.
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tm30
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See, if the substance of the argument can’t be defended, one has to resort to the race card and the politics card, for good measure. It’s truly grotesque how many willing pawns of Satan are in positions of power, such as Ms. McGuire.
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tap11
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You are a blessing to the Church.
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Catholic20064
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I hope I am. I feel blessed to be a part of the Catholic Church.
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Chris-WA
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I understand what you are saying, but in this case this was a perfect opportunity to stand up for truth, which is what the protesters were trying to do when Notre Dame failed to do so. And sometimes standing up for truth means having to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough, even if that means interrupting a speech being given by someone in a high position of authority. It’s Notre Dame’s fault that this got as far as it did. Notre Dame should never have awarded the President an honorary degree given his history of supporting anti-Catholic policies on critical moral issues.
Try to imagine someone like Saint Peter or Saint Paul being in that audience. I don’t think they would bite their tongues either. They would stand up for the truth and not worry about whom they might offend, even if the person was a king or a president.
What the majority of Catholics suffer from today is a severe state of apathy. Apathy allows once venerable Catholic institutions like Notre Dame to progressively shed their Catholicity in favor of relativism and secularism. If more Catholics were serious about their faith, Notre Dame wouldn’t be able to get away with all the nonsense that goes on there. But it seems lately that many issues are coming to a head and Catholics are going to have to pick a side. That is a good thing. I look forward to these issues being brought into the light of day so people can’t pretend these things don’t really matter.
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LoveJesus
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A sacramental is any observance that is analogous to the sacraments. It can be anything from making the sign of the cross, to using holy water, to Rosaries or crucifixes. It does not have to be an object.
I won’t stoop down to their level. I will hold to my standards of civility and humility because I know that it works. If it worked for Jesus, it certainly can work for me.
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St_Francis
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What I was trying to say is that a sacramental is not a “sacramental object.”
I have not heard anywhere that the audience did anything other than applaud Obama. Where did you hear that they interrupted him and pointed Rosaries at him?
I am not suggesting that you change the level at which you operate, only that you be aware and wary of the way that liberals operate.
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LoveJesus
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I didn’t “hear” that there were interruptions. I watched the speech and saw and heard at least two interruptions.
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