Trudeau led his country out of a pandemic while Trump's lack of leadership

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This is ridiculous, the United states has 10 times the population as Canada, and a larger percentage of urban populace, these numbers make complete sense if both responses yielded exactly the same results. Twisting the truth like this disgusts me. On top of that, Trump doesn’t even have the authority under the constitution to take certain actions that other countries can. Most responses to the pandemic in the US are only allowed by the states themselves. The only real power Trump has is to close state borders. Blaming Trump for a botched response would be incorrectly placing the blame. If you want to blame someone for a failed response in the US, blame the governors, the ones with the actual authority to establish any sort of response to the pandemic.
 
The_Catholic_Dude said:
Blaming Trump for a botched response would be incorrectly placing the blame.
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I don’t blame Trump for a botched response, or for the skyrocketing spread of the virus in the U.S…the spread is the fault of Americans for failing to employ common sense and the advice of scientists and medical experts…however, Trump is complicit in this for his lack of leadership, and making off the cuff remarks that are just plain wrong.
 
I imagine the experts on the covid taskforce are horrified everytime he opens his mouth.
 
Victoria33 said:
Every leader can ultimately be criticized, critics can say you should have acted a day earlier, 2 weeks earlier and so on.
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He’s leader of the opposition. For now. His job is to oppose. It’s how our parliamentary system works. He’s almost duty-bound to criticize Mr. Trudeau.

The US no. of cases is not 10x greater than ours as it should be but 30x from the numbers posted above. Similarly the US death rate is more than 10x as well.

Right now in Canada we are clearly on the downside. Here in Quebec, new cases, deaths and hospitalizations are all way down.

I don’t think Mr. Trudeau should claim all the credit though. Our provincial premiers have all done a good and coordinated job and health care is a provincial jurisdiction. There have been mistakes and missteps, nobody is perfect, but on the whole it seems to have worked.

We have our own covidiots though, I hope they don’t ruin it for everyone.
 
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So, is there any chance Canada will be building a border wall soon to protect you guys from us? 😀
 
Then what if we trade you Trump from Trudeau, one first round pick and a legislator to be named later?
 
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The_Catholic_Dude:
Blaming Trump for a botched response would be incorrectly placing the blame.
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I don’t blame Trump for a botched response, or for the skyrocketing spread of the virus in the U.S…the spread is the fault of Americans for failing to employ common sense and the advice of scientists and medical experts…however, Trump is complicit in this for his lack of leadership, and making off the cuff remarks that are just plain wrong.
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Like Trump’s statement that we can shine light inside the body to cure the patient of Covid.
 
Externally. ORs are also scrubbed with chemical disinfectants, but internal organs are not scrubbed with disinfectant, nor lungs opened for UV light exposure.
 
No but it has been proposed before, there was a pill that was proposed that just emitted a UV light, but I don’t think it went anywhere. Now if only I can find the study where it was proposed.
 
The_Catholic_Dude said:
there was a pill that was proposed that just emitted a UV light, but I don’t think it went anywhere.
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I wouldn’t think so. UV light is to reduce bioburden, and is not selective…The internal organs have many beneficial bacteria that would upset the balance of good health by their distruction.
 
The_Catholic_Dude said:
Ah, here is one, a propsed idea to use low level of ultraviolet light in a pill:
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This is not relevant to your case. the “pill” is not for disbursement of UV light for internal therapeutic action, it is for QC testing of compounds analyzed by HPLC…Read the first two sentences carefully, and if you understand High Performance Liquid Chromotography, you would see that HPLC is a means in analytical chemistry used to separate, identify, and quantify each component in a mixture, not as a medical intervention.

I apologize for being a geek, but its in the realm of my career, education, and experience.
 
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pnewton said:
So, is there any chance Canada will be building a border wall soon to protect you guys from us? 😀
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Some cities in Mexico are disallowing USA citizens too. We can get two walls and make them pay for it!
 
I salute their progress to stomp out the virus, but that was never the goal in the USA.
 
OraLabora said:
He’s leader of the opposition. For now. His job is to oppose. It’s how our parliamentary system works. He’s almost duty-bound to criticize Mr. Trudeau.
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Her Majesty’s Government vs. Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition. There’s something about this that makes me very grateful for our system.
OraLabora said:
I don’t think Mr. Trudeau should claim all the credit though. Our provincial premiers have all done a good and coordinated job and health care is a provincial jurisdiction. There have been mistakes and missteps, nobody is perfect, but on the whole it seems to have worked.
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A few jabs here and there but ultimately everyone worked together. The federal government is a Liberal minority. 7/10 provinces with the vast majority of the population are run by parties to the right of Trudeau. Only 2/10 are run by the Liberals. 1/10 to left of Trudeau. Yet some how everyone managed to see past political differences to coordinate. Same with Australia.
 
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