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The Father is in Christ as Christ is in us. Jesus is not the Father nor are we Christ Im sying that we do not see the Father nor the Holy Ghost but those fortunate enough saw Jesus. Of the trinity Jesus is the one who was in bodily form, I dont believe we recieve the flesh form of Jesus.What about Jesus in us Body and Blood? You do believe He has a body right? How do I receive this aspect of God?
Jesus has a glorified body we (those that believe)will get one when we go to heaven.We do do not get this in communion.
This talks about salvation…not having Christ in us.
This is how we recieve the New Covenant. The New Covenant is that God will dwell in us.
So, are you saying once I walk in a Temple, God is not there? Based on your statements, God should still be there, even if He is not there in the way those who believe in the True Presence believe He is there. Also, since your house and bed are man made, can’t I say the same thing about you?
Do you believe that Christ abides within you? That all the fullness of God abides in Christ who lives within you? If you do believe How do you emonstrate this belief?
I must state, I am not against focusing on God as He dwells in us, by for me, faith life is more dynamic than being alone with Him.
Look at your OP on this thread my original comment was to a poster who was alone in a perpetual adoration chapel.
I look outside myself just as much as Thomas the Apostle did when He had to see the wounds himself to believe Christ had risen.
Thomas did not have the God within Him until Pentecost.
Are you against worship in fellowship?
Not at all
I would appreciate it if this discussion remained charitable, thank you!
I do not mock God and I do not worship a temple. I go to a place where I worship God along with the rest of His sheep.
I do believe faith can enter us into this New Covenant, but obviously we believe differently here. We believe Baptism can enter us into this New Covenant by the indwelling present of the Holy Spirit; where we are born of water and the Spirit. (You do believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are different right? Actually…do you believe in the Holy Trinity? That would help our discussion.)
I believe baptism is important --by immersion. We are baptised into Christs crucifiction, death to the old self again another way how we are crucified with christ and when we aare lifted out of immersion we are baptised into Christs reserection.I believe in the three persons of the Godhead
Again, I look outside myself just as the Apostle Thomas did. Jesus came in the flesh for a reason, so people could look outside themselves for Him. Of course, this is not the only way to find Him. God became visible, for us!
Wrong, do you only need to eat one meal and then live the rest of your life? I would think not. Just as one should perseveringly pray, one should receive Christ as often as possible because we always need more of Him because He is infinite and we cannot stop receiving Him.
“I will never leave you nor never foresake you”
By your same use of logic, I could say that all you had to do was ask Jesus in to your heart just once and you should be good. Are you telling me that since you have done this that you are unable to sin? I mean, shouldn’t that asking of Christ into your heart just once been enough and you now be a wholly righteous person? (I apologize beforehand, I do not know exactly what your beliefs are either.)
I am glad we actually agree on something!
The Christ in us is the hope of glory—we cannot save ourselves it is God working within us that sanctifies us and turns us from a person steeped in sin to a saint of God made holy it is a process not an event.
So, if it is Christ the Spirit who lives in us, then who was it that Jesus sent after He ascended into Heaven? He explicitly states that this someone, the Paraclete, is someone different than Him.
We have both the Paraclete and Christ --if we believe.
I do acknowledge the presence of God in me by separating Him from everything else that is in me, I also recognize that God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit and He dwells in me in uniquely different ways.
Amen
Please explain to me how I was twisting Scripture.
Jesus said that He and the Father are One, but He never said that He is the Father. The Trinity is equally God, but there is no denying the unique persons of the Trinity.
Are you saying Jesus was the Bodily form of the Trinity or just the Bodily form of the second person of the Trinity, who is equally God with the Father and the Holy Spirit?
I still will ask, how do we receive the Bodily form of God that is found in Christ?
Peace be with you!
