Trump - “I didn’t need to do this”

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My U.S. Congressman is Will Hurd. He is a Republican. His district ranges from San Antonio to El Paso, along the border.
Hurd is against the Wall.
Google him to find his reason for opposition to Trump’s wall.
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How about your Senators? Cruz and Cornyn, they represent the people too. Are they against the wall? Well, we know Cruz is very much for it. How about those who have lost loved ones to those who have come over illegally? Does their voice count?

By the way, I’ve always been for more enforcement and not really for the wall; but here we are. Maybe some sectors could have wall. Also, they have said already, there would be some places, the wall would not be built because of natural barriers.
 
Things can be worked out. I’ve never been for the wall, I have been for more border enforcement but since we are here, we do know, that there are many that don’t want any kind of security on our border.
 
Those who live along the border are against the wall, from Brownsville to El Paso.
The state of Texas is mostly Republican, except for metro areas like Austin, Dallas, and Houston, and along the border - Brownsville, Laredo, Eagle Pass, Del Rio and El Paso.
 
YourNameHere said:
Those who live along the border are against the wall, from Brownsville to El Paso.
The state of Texas is mostly Republican, except for metro areas like Austin, Dallas, and Houston, and along the border - Brownsville, Laredo, Eagle Pass, Del Rio and El Paso.
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And the border area is a Democratic stronghold, “those who live along the border”.
 
Again, those who have lost loved ones, across the USA deserve consideration too. And as said, I’ve never been big on the wall; but so be it… again, it is clear, there are those who want nothing to be done, Human Traffickers flourish, organized crime loves it, kidnapping and all kinds of crimes going on and drug smuggling too.
 
Cruz is ultra-conservative. Oddly enough not born in Texas. The son of folks who immigrated first from Cuba to Canada and then to the United States. Cornyn is more of a Mitch McConnell Republican. Both support the wall.
Cruz came close to losing to Beto O’Rourke, a native of El Paso, in the election last November. O’Rourke is very much against a wall.
 
Many migrants are taken advantage of by smugglers, an unsecured border enables many of these crimes to persist. Some migrants have even been massacred.

Border Patrol Union wants wall. Believe me, I know El Paso and a lot of the things you are discussing.
 
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The border from Texas to California is about 2,000 miles long. From Brownsville to El Paso, the Rio Grande River is a natural barrier.
In parts of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California the terrain of the land makes it difficult to cross the border.
Factor in the heat and lack of water.
Those who traffic drugs or people are much more sophisticated than to be kept out by any kind of Wall.
 
You are right. We need more border patrol agents. But not a wall.
 
YourNameHere said:
Those who traffic drugs or people are much more sophisticated than to be kept out by any kind of Wall.
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I wasn’t for the wall but as I did say, I think we need more security.

I know Chihuahua, I know Coahuila, Torreon, Juarez, Palomas, Sunland Park… the thing is, is I don’t think the Democrats want to even increase law enforcement. Walls for parts of the border may work. Back in the past, Mexico was lovely even though, some of the bad things were going on to a much smaller extent. Now, it’s become a place I’m wary of.


The answer is more border security, some wall in places, other places, no they don’t need it, it will also interfere with nature as well.
 
I don’t know about any border patrol union, but border patrol agents for the most part believe we need more agents in the field.
 
Rubio, Cruz, if I’m not mistaken, all came out for the wall…
 
The Democrats who live in the areas you speak of are for border security, but are just against wasting money on a wall that will not work.
Also, Google Will Hurd, who represents the Texas U.S. Congressional District 23 that stretches from Laredo to El Paso. Hurd is a Republican. He is against the Wall.
 
Fentanyl is killing a lot of people, a lot of fentanyl comes through Mexico. There are a lot of victims in this whole thing.

Again, I’ve never been for a strict “Berlin Wall” type of structure but something and a whole lot of something needs to be done. I know the Customs and Border Patrol.

@YourNameHere , You are indeed, well versed on this and have made me change my position some. A “wall” as an absolute is not practical, there are already some areas where they conceded it is not made… but what is going on in Mexico now, is absolutely scary and we can not be stooges for people who take advantage of our weaknesses either, people like El Chapo for one and I know, these people are like terrorists in that, if you get one kingpin, someone else will come in and take up the void.
 
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I’m still sitting on the wall, I mean fence, on this issue. It seems that it may infringe on local land rights—but it also is a far-reaching national and international issue.

I too am concerned with the drug smuggling over the border. A wall may deter some of the smuggling, but as long as there is demand for heroin in the US and as long as they’re growing opium in Afghanistan, smugglers will find a way to get the finished product here.

Wall or not, the border crisis is continually exploited politically by both sides. The question is, how do we influence politics with Catholic social teachings on immigration?
 
Victoria33 said:
we do know, that there are many that don’t want any kind of security on our border.
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Who, exactly? Documented quotes, please. Trump supporters like to say this, but never back it up with proof.
Disagreement on the methods to secure the border is not the same as opposition to securing the border.
 
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Guys, I bet this thread is going to result in a long, fruitful discussion where a lot of minds are changed. Totally gonna happen…any day now.
 
The wall is a simplistic answer for an extremely complicated bunch of questions.
As long as there is a demand for illicit drugs, smugglers will find a way to get it into this country.
Opioids are a huge problem and they are not being smuggled in. They are over prescribed by doctors.
Immigration reform is long overdo.
 
Texan here, but, lest I suggest false credentials, Houstonian not borderlands. I’m surrounded by mostly conservative people and my observation is that they are mostly against this wall. I’ve seen only a handful of people celebrating it.

It is a state of emergency, but as others have said we primarily need better mechanisms and facilities for processing and/or returning immigrants.

Land seizures, irrigation issues, and ways the wall may disrupt migration of wildlife are huge concerns.

I was for it however long ago when it was brought up because I thought it would somehow discourage the coyotes from taking these people on horrible trips where they are exploited and worse. Realistically the underground drug tunnels that already exist without a wall will just gain coyote traffic. And I hadn’t thought about some of the problems above.
 
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