Trump / Clinton--Final Presidential Debate Thread

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Peter_Plato said:
Okay, let’s compare apples to apples:

Trump refuses to shake Hillary’s hand, possibly because she has a cold. This indicates he is not consistently pro-life.

Hillary has pneumonia but she gets close and personal and hugs a young girl on the street even though she is aware that a number of people in her campaign have been infected with pneumonia in the days prior to her own bout with pneumonia. What should this indicate about her being “pro-life?”

That she is willing to take the chance at actually infecting a young girl with pneumonia is demonstrating her “respect” for life at all stages, but Trump’s unwillingness to shake hands demonstrates that he is not sincerely pro-life?

Yet, that Hillary is pushing for the painful dismembering and killing of babies up to and including after partial birth AND wants to force tax payers (including you) to pay for these is an indicator that she is more “pro-life” than Trump?

For the life of me, I do not see much consistency in how you arrive at your conclusions.

My grandson was born a few weeks premature recently. The fact that he came out of his mother’s womb early makes absolutely no difference with regard to who he is and what rights he ought to have. That Hillary can insist he should have NO rights if he were located in a womb, but ALL rights if he “decides” to arrive early is an abysmal moral position. He is the same human being whether in the womb or outside of it. Birth makes no difference with regard to his moral standing. Yet it makes all the difference to Hillary.

Her position that painful dismemberment of babies should be permitted right up to birth is NOT pro-life and undermines everything else she spouts as her “public” position regarding her alleged “respect” fo life.

The way she treats those around her is a far better indicator of her respect for others – and that has been well-documented. The manner in which she responded to the moderator of the commander-in-chief forum after he didn’t follow her script is far more telling than Trump’s refusal to shake her hand.

Edit: Link to video describing the events following the forum.

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In all fairness…the no-hand-shake evening for presidential hopefuls was clearly mutual. Neither rejected the other because there was no advance to shake.

Also Trump probably couldn’t possibly have known Hillary’s nose would be dripping throughout the debate. Hillary might have been surprised her nose was dripping. She used her fingers to wipe her skin dry. That sort of thing bothers me. Most men and women carry tissue or hanky around at all times. If there was ever a time to have one tucked in a pocket or sleeve…🤷

Personally…I was relieved Trump didn’t get caught in her nasal drip. His campaign trail isn’t over.

I get what you are trying to say though.

Thanks for posting the Matt L. interview. After all this time, I’d not watched it until today.
 
randomuser said:
Because PRO-LIFE means respecting the sanctity of life at all stages of life, not just until birth, and he obviously has so little regard for his opponent’s life that he cannot even extend a professional courtesy. There are athletes at the Olympics who were sent home because they couldn’t be sportsman-like and shake hands with opponents. It’s not trivial. What gives Trump the right to be so un-sportsmanlike?
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You really must be joking. Take this to its extreme, after all. If Elie Weisel wouldn’t shake hands with Hitler, he’s not “pro-life”? That is ludicrous.

Being unsportsmanlike is a totally different charge from being callous or indifferent towards life and death matters other human beings face.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Abortion under Hillary Clinton is a militant absolute certainty.
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I am unfortunately pretty sure it is a certainty under Trump, too, alas. That is a streak of hard-heartedness I don’t see being eradicated by legal means. Permissiveness about abortion is too entrenched in the lie that offering abortions is a mercy and the matter of abortion is private.
 
DeniseNY said:
So pro-life people must be perfect in all their interactions with people?

Does that mean that pro abortion people (like Hillary) can be as rotten as they want to be? Maybe that will explain her criminality, propensity to lie, and track record of being nasty to people she feels are “beneath” her - like her secret service detail.
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Or the waitresses she stiffed. Didn’t leave a tip.

She plays the sympathy card when she talks about the women who have aborted their
babies at the last minute. If it was critical, why not let the babies die a natural death
after birth? Comes down to many only wanting “perfect babies”, And the percentage
of those decisions are a fraction of the million plus babies aborted for lesser reasons.

For those still in doubt, please consider your vote for Trump. Forget personality,
vote on the issues.
 
Honestly can’t see how anyone could, with a straight face, claim Trump dominated in this final debate. He started out uncharacteristically calm, but quickly devolved into a mess after he continuously took the bait Clinton kept waving in front of him. Clinton won this debate, hands down. And, judging by the fact that Trump doesn’t even have a state like Texas locked down, I can’t see how he wins the presidency.

That said, he never said he wouldn’t accept the results. He said “we’ll see”. Far be it from me to defend Mr. Trump, but that was the only way he could answer. Saying he would accept the results would go against the conspiracy theories he’s been feeding his supporters, and saying he would accept would run too many people the wrong way.

And I agree with others. Mr. Wallace was far and away the best moderator we’ve seen. He kept the candidates in line and was swift in transitioning from topic to topic. I think it’s thanks to him we got a much more substantive debate.
 
TexCatholic4JMJ said:
Or the waitresses she stiffed. Didn’t leave a tip.

She plays the sympathy card when she talks about the women who have aborted their
babies at the last minute. If it was critical, why not let the babies die a natural death
after birth? Comes down to many only wanting “perfect babies”, And the percentage
of those decisions are a fraction of the million plus babies aborted for lesser reasons.

For those still in doubt, please consider your vote for Trump. Forget personality,
vote on the issues.
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We are in no position to care whether or not Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton or anyone else running for President is a bad tipper! (How indistinguishable would two candidates have to be before that became an issue worthy of deciding a vote?!?)

Yes, someone needs to say that hard cases inevitably make bad law. She knows that, but she also knows that there are voters who don’t see it that way.
 
Beautiful said:
In all fairness…the no-hand-shake evening for presidential hopefuls was clearly mutual. Neither rejected the other because there was no advance to shake.

Also Trump probably couldn’t possibly have known Hillary’s nose would be dripping throughout the debate. Hillary might have been surprised her nose was dripping. She used her fingers to wipe her skin dry. That sort of thing bothers me. Most men and women carry tissue or hanky around at all times. If there was ever a time to have one tucked in a pocket or sleeve…🤷

Personally…I was relieved Trump didn’t get caught in her nasal drip. His campaign trail isn’t over.

I get what you are trying to say though.

Thanks for posting the Matt L. interview. After all this time, I’d not watched it until today.
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youtube.com/watch?v=r5zePJytofE - What do you use if you have no Kleenex® Tissues?

To appreciate my interest…I have packets of personal size Kleenex everywhere so that I don’t have to answer this question. :eek: I realize some cultures don’t have or use tissues.
So would I have let just drip down my face or used my fingers or sleeve or debate notepaper in front of me? Believe it or not…how one responds to that says something about their character.
 
EasterJoy said:
We are in no position to care whether or not Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton or anyone else running for President is a bad tipper! (How indistinguishable would two candidates have to be before that became an issue worthy of deciding a vote?!?)

Yes, someone needs to say that hard cases inevitably make bad law. She knows that, but she also knows that there are voters who don’t see it that way.
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If you will notice, I made that statement adding to the list of the prior poster…
You are very touchy, sorry. It obviously very low on the scale but her position on
most of the important ones rants pretty high and makes her undesirable as a president.
 
Would any of you have shaken the hand of someone who just called you “nasty” on national TV? I wouldn’t…

This whole election has been a turd pile…
 
Salutations,
Why would a thread be removed when it was informative of a precious, serious cause. How are we to be informed, in case someone didn’t watch the debate. Someone stated the election was decided Oct 7th.?
Now, actually, our popular vote doesn’t amt. to much. Behind the scenes are the trilateral commission and Skull and Bones. The creme de LA creme of society. They pick who they want and finance them which pushes that person forward for
Us to buy the product.
Example. Bush I, Clinton, Bush II all graduated from Yale and belong to its club, Skull and Bones.
What was the issue? NAFTA! Why did Bush I start NAFTA? When Clinton followed he continued to enact NAFTA and started it. BUSH II KEPT it going.
I said to myself," Why is Clinton, a dem., continuing
NAFTA, a rep. Plan? Then, I was educated on the above.
Would it be wrong for us to mention Fr.Johnathan, and the New York Cardinal, who spoke out forceably, on the bastardization of our faith. Having infiltrated our faith w 2 groups to tempt us to water down our values. The wikileaks gave their names as Catholics United and Catholics Allegiance for good ??? Forgot
the last word.
So, the electoral college elects the president. It’s been discussed to cancel the electoral college. I agree. The President should be elected by the populace vote.
A test was done on computerized voting machines.
A thumb drive was needed to start the voting? 7
People were there. 7 cards w set yes and nos.
The 7 put in their cards w known numbers and the machine reported different numbers. So if a thumb drive is used, it could have set numbers in it. So, it could be rigged. Dead people voted last year. A nun confessed to voting 5 times. I just don’t know how we can get all the legal voters counted. Illegals voted last year and some in Congress were saying we needed to make it legal for the illegals to vote. Really!
Only God can change the hearts of either side and our population. See Clinton crimes in Arkansas.
in Christ’s love,
Tweedlealice
St,. Gemma, Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, BLESSED Mother pray to Jesus for us. Jesus bring our petitions to the Father. Plead our case to the Father. Father be kind to us and answer our plea, that our country will find truth and honor and love for all.
 
2_RollinStoned said:
Would any of you have shaken the hand of someone who just called you “nasty” on national TV? I wouldn’t…

This whole election has been a turd pile…
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In Clinton’s position I would. Makes her look like she’s taking the high road and makes Trump look very bad in comparison. That’s basically been Clinton’s strategy in the last few weeks, just sit back and let Trump continue to step in it, and it’s working beautifully. Trump’s gonna Trump.
 
Little_Sheep said:
I am confused.

I love Hillary Clinton. And while she has been called many things, she has never been called an abortion.

Abortions are at an all-time low under President Barack Obama. People who truly want to see less abortion will vote for another Democrat, Hillary Clinton.
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A wolf in sheep clothing. Research CLINTON CRIMES IN ARKANSAS. IF you have time find the video and watch it. The typed documents have the facts. The devil was loose in Little Rock.
NEVER FORGET Benghazi. It could have been your son. My son was a contractor and was guarding the embassy in Kabul. He could have been assigned to Benghazi. Help is always sent. STAND DOWN!!
The Ambassador was sodomized. Your son dead at her judgement and command.
Yes, last night she said she would never reverse Roe vs Wade and said the mother had the right to late term abortions. (After 6 mo, have a C-section and send the baby for adoption.)
A female President. A rising star. Sounds exciting.
So did Obama and look what happened.
May God guide you and us to where he wishes to be.
I would know I’d have to forgive her but my heart would take a little while to follow my head.
We did lose my son in law in Iraq at 24yo in 2007. He lived w us. He was maturing so much. He’d come home wanting a bagel and I had eaten it. I said I’ll go get more. I feel so bad. He called me Mum.
The Caliphate is an Arab prophecy. They plan to take over the world.
If my people who are called by my name, shall humble themselves and seek my face. I will hear their prayer, forgive their sins and heal their land.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
Beautiful said:
Where have you been? Do you have any idea what has happened to Europe lately? Or France and UK in the past 15 years?

Spare me and others name calling…I’m not calling you names.
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Salutations,
The amt of Muslims is increasing especially w refugees. So far 10,000-all Muslims.
Now this is hard to believe but the court in Tenn. Granted the Muslims the right to practice Sharia law.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
tweedlealice said:
Salutations,
The amt of Muslims is increasing especially w refugees. So far 10,000-all Muslims.
Now this is hard to believe but the court in Tenn. Granted the Muslims the right to practice Sharia law.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
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Does the Catholic Church have the right to practice canon law in Tennessee?
Canon law is the body of laws and regulations made by ecclesiastical authority (Church leadership), for the government of a Christian organization or church and its members. It is the internal ecclesiastical law governing the Catholic Church
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_law

So assuming that the Catholic Church gets to practice canon law within its churches in Tennessee, why shouldn’t the Muslims get to practice Sharia law within their mosques there?
 
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