Trump / Clinton--Final Presidential Debate Thread

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YADA said:
Because you quoted Convert in 99 where they accused me calling them [3rd party voters] sinners people were supposed to ‘admonish’ and offered them a hug …

my post did not say that
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I responded to someone who spoke to me. My response had nothing to do with you, respectfully.
 
ProVobis said:
It is true that many issues are being traded at a premiums but the recent Congress was actually debating Trump’s plan of paying back 85 Cents on the dollar, meaning that bondholders would get a haircut on top of a discount. Bottom line is this: Would you lend money to someone who habitually looks for ways to get out of paying you back what he owes you?
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I have never seen anything from Trump saying he would literally default on part of the debt, and congress debates all kinds of things.

I would not lend money to someone who offers to pay me 85 cents on the dollar at the time. But if I was so foolish as to lend money into the kind of market we have now, I would recognize that ultimately my holding would be discounted on the market. And that’s why it’s so incredibly foolish for Clinton to simultaneously advocate importation of massive cheap labor, low interest rates, measures that discourage small business, and a larger deficit.

That’s why, by the way, nobody lends long anymore except those who immediately re-sell mortgages. They know what the risk is. Why does anyone buy them, then? Some are speculating, looking for dips. But most are companies (largely insurers) who really have to be able to predict returns to match their anticipated outgo.
 
Michael68 said:
So just because of this, you support someone who lies to the FBI, supports abortion on demand, wants open borders, thinks Obama care is ok, tells the public one thing while believing something else, let Americans die in Benghazi, accepts money from countries that look at women as second class, and divides people into baskets!!!REALLY!!!
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Perhaps reviewing this post will help.
 
gracepoole said:
All of the other incidents have not been debunked, and he bragged about actions which were then confirmed by women. Let me be clear: if all of these allegations are disproved, I will be very happy for all. But given his choice to boast about the same actions women have accused him of, I’m not altogether certain that will happen.
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Do you agree that the plane incident has been debunked? Why would a woman come forward and lie about this? From the report of the other passenger, it seems like she was seriously offended when he refused to respond to her flirtations and he was obviously not going to marry her. How many other women do you suppose have axes to grind because he was not interested in them?
 
sallybutler said:
He is running as a Christian. Jesus said we are not to be an occasion of sin to others before the Church said it.
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And have you talked to his spiritual director? - Did you witness Trump doing any of this? Are you equally as excited about the [new] woman who just came out about what Bill did to her years ago?

The recording is from 11 years ago … are you a better Christian today than you were 11 years ago …? All the allegations are from years ago - some 30 years ago …

Lets not talk about the dignity of the office - we all know what FDR, Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton did in the office … and that are all celebrated men of the Democratic Party - And the womanizing of all of them was a known quantity by at least some before all of them were elected - and with Bill Clinton - by the electorate.

And time can be a relevant factor- but perhaps not in the way you would want to judge Trump … Remember, Jesus and the parable of the Vineyard … all the workers got the same days pay whether they started at Dawn, Noon time or just before quitting time …
 
Tomdstone said:
Do you agree that the plane incident has been debunked? Why would a woman come forward and lie about this? From the report of the other passenger, it seems like she was seriously offended when he refused to respond to her flirtations and he was obviously not going to marry her. How many other women do you suppose have axes to grind because he was not interested in them?
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Already late getting little ones into bed (gonna pay for that in the morning!), so in summary, here’s what I know:

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/20/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-reports-sexual-assault-him-have-/
 
Tomdstone said:
Do you agree that the plane incident has been debunked? Why would a woman come forward and lie about this? From the report of the other passenger, it seems like she was seriously offended when he refused to respond to her flirtations and he was obviously not going to marry her. How many other women do you suppose have axes to grind because he was not interested in them?
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I don’t believe any of these latest accusations. But even if Trump is a masher, I would take him over an enemy of the Church and an advocate of killing children both here and abroad.
 
gracepoole said:
Already late getting little ones into bed (gonna pay for that in the morning!), so in summary, here’s what I know:

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/20/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-reports-sexual-assault-him-have-/
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Now that Al Gore is campaigning for Clinton - does it bother you that he was accused of raping a woman in 2009 and yet in addition to her husband Hillary does not have a problem having accused sexual predators support her election? {and she always believes that the women should be believed too :rolleyes:]

This woman reported it at the time and had a police report - but it helps to be powerful and a Democrat in Oregon … even Democratic governors can get away with being pedophiles here 🤷
 
gracepoole said:
Accusations of sexual assault have been made against him for decades.
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Well you’re a real Trump follower, you know all about Trump for decades, so you claim. I’ve never heard anything bad about the man, except Rosie O’Donnell and lately a few other things that have come out. I also never heard him being brought up on charges of sexual assault. I’m sure if that was the case it would have been in the headlines all over the Country.
 
Michael68 said:
I’m sorry, if you have little ones how can you support someone who is fine with the murder of little ones?
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Why is it that some (most? all?) Trump supporters think that not falling all over ourselves trying to excuse or ignore his lack of leadership means that we are Clinton supporters? :mad:

Just a reminder for everyone who has not yet participated in early or mail-in voting:

:okpeople:THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION!

:o

OK, I’m done here. Need to go get a throat lozenge after all that shouting…

*Personally, I’m going third party in this election.
 
YADA said:
Now that Al Gore is campaigning for Clinton - does it bother you that he was accused of raping a woman in 2009 and yet in addition to her husband Hillary does not have a problem having accused sexual predators support her election? {and she always believes that the women should be believed too :rolleyes:]

This woman reported it at the time and had a police report - but it helps to be powerful and a Democrat in Oregon … even Democratic governors can get away with being pedophiles here 🤷
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Again, I am not challenging any of these points. None of them, of course, make sexual assault conducted by anyone else morally acceptable.
 
kat07 said:
Well you’re a real Trump follower, you know all about Trump for decades, so you claim. I’ve never heard anything bad about the man, except Rosie O’Donnell and lately a few other things that have come out. I also never heard him being brought up on charges of sexual assault. I’m sure if that was the case it would have been in the headlines all over the Country.
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I don’t “follow” Trump, per se. I just have access to Google.
 
Gertabelle said:
Why is it that some (most? all?) Trump supporters think that not falling all over ourselves trying to excuse or ignore his lack of leadership means that we are Clinton supporters? :mad:

Just a reminder for everyone who has not yet participated in early or mail-in voting:

:okpeople:THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION!

:o

OK, I’m done here. Need to go get a throat lozenge after all that shouting…

*Personally, I’m going third party in this election.
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Just a reminder a third party vote is either for or against the top two.
 
gracepoole said:
I don’t “follow” Trump, per se. I just have access to Google.
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The New York Times conducted a major investigation into Trump’s treatment of women and came up empty-handed. The Washington Post hired 40 investigative reporters to look into every aspect of Donald Trump’s life. All they could come up with was a tape recently leaked.
 
Michael68 said:
How is this out of line when alk you do is dump on the pro-life candidate?
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It’s out of line because while I referenced my children as reason to excuse my quick response to another poster, you referenced my children regarding voting for a pro-abortion candidate. My children aren’t yours to speak of. Your comment is out of line because you consistently assume that anyone who isn’t voting for Trump is not anti-abortion. This is both factually incorrect and highly uncharitable.
 
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