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Then PM me. I’m a big boy. I can take it.
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I would be interested to see this same study for Clinton, Bush, Obama, Bush Sr., and Reagan.“A tabulation by the Harvard Law School professor Jack Goldsmith found…”
I have a feeling it would look much the same.
Think about it. To get the pardon, the president must be familiar with the names at least…which means someone had to mention it…which means it is likely someone with a tie somewhere.
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sallybutler
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No Manafort yet???
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PaulinVA
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Just now.No Manafort yet???
Absolute lawlessness.
Including Jared’s father.
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F_Marturana
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If he can pardon mass murderers of civilian women and children, all without judicial review, there’s no bottom.
I wonder who else he’s gonna pardon?
I wonder who else he’s gonna pardon?
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F_Marturana
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Jared’s dad was prosecuted by Chris Christie.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...ctions-crime-00476ac6d7201f05d88a338bd101f597
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...ctions-crime-00476ac6d7201f05d88a338bd101f597
Poor Chris Christie, first Trump gave him Covid, now this.Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called it “one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes” he ever prosecuted as U.S. attorney.
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EricF
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Apparently there is no end to Trump’s benevolence.
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puer.dei
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Not if you kill innocent civilians or plot against your brother-in-law.Apparently there is no end to Trump’s benevolence.
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Nepperhan
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Well, you are wrong. No other president has gone around the clemency commission to this extent and no other president ahas pardoned this number of cronies. Trump has no concept of conflict of interest.I would be interested to see this same study for Clinton, Bush, Obama, Bush Sr., and Reagan.
I have a feeling it would look much the same.
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Nepperhan
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No, no, no. Please see the attached:Think about it. To get the pardon, the president must be familiar with the names at least…which means someone had to mention it…which means it is likely someone with a tie somewhere.
https://www.justice.gov/pardon
You have the study on other presidents?Well, you are wrong.
Let’s see it.
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Nepperhan
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I can remember the pardons of the five presidents. I remember when Scooter Libby got off and when Ford pardoned Nixon and Iva Toguri D’Aquino. Nixon did not pardon his fellow travelers and a whole passel of them ended up in the slammer. I think Cap Weinberger got a pardon, too, like Jimmy Hoffa.You have the study on other presidents?
Let’s see it.
There have been notorious pardons:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1862257_1862325_1862317,00.html
… but Trump takes the cake. He shows that he thinks he’s been treated unfairly. It is pathetic.
You don’t have the report.I can remember…
You can’t remember.
But somehow you think it authoritative that Trump was the worst?
You need evidence. Without such, yours is simply calumny.
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Nepperhan
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Wrong again.But somehow you think it authoritative that Trump was the worst?
You need evidence. Without such, yours is simply calumny.
- My memory can be authoritative.
- What I say could be speculation but not calumny. There’s nothing malicious or inaccurate about calling out Trump for his evident failings.
And yet…What I say could be speculation but not calumny. There’s nothing malicious or inaccurate about calling out Trump for his evident failings.
And…other president has gone around the clemency commission to this extent and no other president ahas pardoned this number of cronies.
You are squarely in the realm of opinion based calumny.Trump has no concept of conflict of interest.
Where is the evidence?
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billsherman
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That Trump has no concept of conflict of interest?Where is the evidence?
You have a point, we have no way of determining whether or not he has a concept of it. We do know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Trump doesn’t care about conflicts of interest. The last four years prove that. Spending tens to hundreds of millions of tax payer money at his own properties, using government time, money, and personnel, to promote his businesses, giving plumb jobs to family members, granting pardons to personal friends without prior clearance from the DOJ, the list goes on and on.
Conflict of interest, like the lives of people conceived in rape and incest, are meaningless to him.
I would be interested to see this same study for Clinton, Bush, Obama, Bush Sr., and Reagan."A tabulation by the Harvard Law School professor Jack Goldsmith found that of the 45 pardons or commutations that Mr. Trump had granted up until Tuesday, 88 percent aided someone with a personal tie to the president or furthered his political aims
I have a feeling it would look much the same.
Think about it. To get the pardon, the president must be familiar with the names at least…which means someone had to mention it…which means it is likely someone with a tie somewhere.
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PaulinVA
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Did he give any reasoning behind the Blackwater pardons other than it’s payback to political donors?
Why?Did he give any reasoning behind the Blackwater pardons other than it’s payback to political donors?
The unwarranted assumptions wouldn’t cease either way.
At least this way he controls the narrative.
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