Trump launches military strike against Syria

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buffalo said:
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They are already challenging this belief.
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We are all God’s children. It really doesn’t matter where we think mankind first started, it is where we end up that matters. Those who look at skin or geographical origin are missing an important fact.

God doesn’t care, He created you the way He created you. He does not love you more or less than any other person He created.

P.S. Skin color and/or geographical origin does not matter to God, human is human.
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SuperLuigi said:
Getting rid of Ghaddifi is regarded by many (including myself) as a big mistake. The fact is he was beginning to behave himself.

The problem with Syria is was the withdrawal from Iraq by Barack Obama resulted in a spill-over.

One of the biggest problems with the last administration, as D’Souza notes, is that for decades American policy has been predicated on choosing the bad guy over the worse guy. What people who are fortunate to live under the shadow of the deep-sea American nuclear fleet and NORAD is that the kind of nonsense we see in these places has been the norm and still is.
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Obama tried a radical approach, getting approval from Congress. How Constitutional of him.
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s all this is going to be. Trump has no interest in nation-building in the name of progress and religion or the “right thing” or making the Third World better for feminists and progressives at the point of a gun.
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I doubt it. He’s vulnerable to what he sees on TV. Like the rest of us. If he sees enough dead or suffering babies, he will act.

This isn’t over.
 
ProVobis said:
I doubt it. He’s vulnerable to what he sees on TV. Like the rest of us. If he sees enough dead or suffering babies, he will act.

This isn’t over.
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We’ll see. No one can predict the future, but he’s already getting push-back from the elements in his base that really don’t understand international relations.
 
sallybutler said:
Obama tried a radical approach, getting approval from Congress. How Constitutional of him.
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No. Obama used the Constitution as a tool to slow things down when he wanted to not act, and he circumvented it entirely when it was a blockage to his progressive agenda.

Trump, on the contrary, has acted wholly in line with the Constitution.
 
Inisfallen said:
Gotta say, some really disturbing stuff has been surfacing in this thread.

From the “false flag” accusations, to the “corrupt Talmudist” hate stuff, which could come right from the pages of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, to the insinuations that AIPAC controls certain American political figures, etc. One of the posters of this kind of bile posted in another thread about the “Jewish NKVD.”

The same kind of wickedness you might find on Stormfront.

It’s like there’s a sewer running under CAF, and every now and then there’s a crack in the pipes and we get to see and smell the slime running through it.
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Dear Inisfallen,

It is with great sorrow that I have to agree with you, for I have noticed the same thing too often for it to be unintentional.

It was precisely for this reason that I, though a Traditionally-inclined Catholic man, was forced to flee the Internet forums that most Traditionally-minded folks frequent - I was tired of the constant Jewish conspiracy theories, the triple brackets, the constant sniggers and back-slaps (I speak in virtual terms, of course) whenever these issues were brought up…

I sincerely hope and pray that this infection does not spread to Catholic Answers Forums.

Lord have mercy on us all. 😦
 
dshix said:
No. Obama used the Constitution as a tool to slow things down when he wanted to not act, and he circumvented it entirely when it was a blockage to his progressive agenda.

Trump, on the contrary, has acted wholly in line with the Constitution.
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👍

Yup. And we know that when he wanted to further his own agenda and really wanted it done he would bypassed Congress and drew out his own executive orders. Practically useless President with forked tongue who wanted to be popular.
 
SuperLuigi said:
When?
All Barack Obama did was circumvent the Constitution…
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Stop posting lies on here. You are deliberating posting material that is untrue. Also the GOP is about white nationalists, white voters they do not support other religions, muslims, arabs, Latinos, Blacks or any other ethnic or cultural group.

It not about defending the Constitution but putting party before politics. It was a smoke and mirrors that did absolutely nothing and it came at very strange time. Because it was Trump, all GOP support was behind it but if it was Obama a huge outcry as you all believe he was a Muslim, not born in this country and is black.

In 2013, President Barack Obama went to Congress to ask for an authorization of force against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad — and he was turned down, in large part thanks to opposition from Republicans in Congress.

Then Trump blames he was too weak. If he was too weak the time to attack was during his presidency, Duh! Illogical reasoning

Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 9, 2012

** If the U.S. attacks Syria and hits the wrong targets, killing civilians, there will be worldwide hell to pay. Stay away and fix broken U.S.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 3, 2013**

** The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2013**

** What I am saying is stay out of Syria.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 4, 2013**

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
9:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013

**Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your “powder” for another (and more important) day!
9:21 AM - 7 Sep 2013
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**After Syria had launched an even more severe chemical attack against it’s own people, Obama actually followed the law by going to congress to get approval for such a move, and conservatives wouldn’t allow it. But now they do? Even Trump said back then that Obama should NOT attack Syria, at least not without congressional approval. **
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Glad our arrogant Pres. is enjoying his taxpayer funded golf outing after announcing the US should take military action against Syria
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) September 4, 2013**
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL). Although Rubio has been blanketing the airwaves praising Trump’s airstrikes, in 2013 he said that “I have long argued forcefully for engagement in empowering the Syrian people, I have never supported the use of U.S. military force in the conflict.”

**6. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT). in 2013 he said that he had “strong reservations about authorizing the use of force against Syria.”
  1. Rep. Pete Olson (R-TX). Olson cited his experience as a Navy veteran as a reason for opposing the use of force against Syria in 2013. ld not.
  2. Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-AL). in 2013 he worried that Obama had not done enough to seek a “diplomatic” solution to the crisis.**
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  3. Rep. Larry Bucshon (R-IN). In 2013, the congressman opposed intervention in Syria on the grounds that he hadn’t met a single person in his district “who believes we should fire missiles into Syria.”**
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  4. Sen. Cory Gardner (R-CO). In 2013, Gardner expressed “skepticism” of striking Syria and argued that he didn’t see “a compelling and vital” national interest in such an attack. **
    **In a speech on the Senate floor in 2013, however, McConnell announced his opposition to Obama’s proposal, saying, "A vital national security risk is clearly not at play, there are just too many unanswered questions about our long-term strategy in Syria, including the fact that this proposal is utterly detached from a wider strategy to end the civil war there, and on the specific question of deterring the use of chemical weapons,
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**Speaker of the House Paul Ryan in 2013, he too opposed Obama’s proposal to attack Syria, saying, “I believe the President’s proposed military strike in Syria cannot achieve its stated objectives. In fact, I fear it will make things worse.”
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Just a bunch of hyporcrits. Obstruct and blame the other side for everything wrong. They will have to answer someday and be judge on every word spoken. They took an oath to defend the Constitution not their party and to work on behalf of its citizens
 
Around inauguration day, a guy who’s a natural born skeptic made a prediction to me about Trump, that sadly has got me wondering. He said 6 months from now, the people who hate Trump the most, certainly won’t like him, but they won’t be as obsessed or worried about him either, and the people who love him the most will be rather disappointed. When I look at the names of the people praising him today, and compare it with those criticizing them, it look’s like my friend’s prediction might be spot on.
 
Seamus_L said:
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I know I’m disappointed with Trump regarding this recent move. 😦

Even if Assad was responsible, which I have my doubts, he should have shared the evidence with Russia and dialogued with Russia for a joint effort to curb their use and ultimately resolve the Syrian conflict together with Russia.

Without Russia, any move by the US in Syria will only make matters worse.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
Post-strike photographs:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4392962/Satellite-images-destruction-Assad-s-air-base.html

Satellite images of destruction at Syrian air base

Satellite images show destruction of Assad’s air base as US says 58 of 59 Tomahawk missiles hit their target - but Russia insists more than half of them MISSED

Before and after satellite images show how al-Shayrat military airfield was damaged in Thursday’s strike

The satellite pictures show damaged and destroyed aircraft shelters and massive blast marks on the ground

Trump launched 59 Tomahawk missiles from over 30 minutes from Mediterranean Sea, 150 miles away

Attack was in retaliation to Bashar al-Assad’s use of Sarin gas on Syrian civilians, killing 80 including children

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4392962/Satellite-images-destruction-Assad-s-air-base.html#ixzz4df3wkdC3
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Seamus_L said:
Around inauguration day, a guy who’s a natural born skeptic made a prediction to me about Trump, that sadly has got me wondering. He said 6 months from now, the people who hate Trump the most, certainly won’t like him, but they won’t be as obsessed or worried about him either, and the people who love him the most will be rather disappointed. When I look at the names of the people praising him today, and compare it with those criticizing them, it look’s like my friend’s prediction might be spot on.
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So far I agree with Trump’s action. It was decisive and a message was sent. You let a killer goes to live another day, he will do it again and more lives will be lost.

Russia was complicit to the crime by association and responsibility. The issue should be settled in 2013.
 
Reuben_J said:
So far I agree with Trump’s action.
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I don’t!
Reuben_J said:
It was decisive and a message was sent.
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What message was that? first we need to know whether it was Assad or not (as it could be a set up to frame Assad for it, since those fighting Assad would love nothing more than instigate a US strike on Assad forces, since they can’t themselves). And secondly, now Russia is in place to shoot down any further missile strikes. All it did was escalate and make matters worse, as it will continue to do unless the USA and Russia work together.

If Trump’s administration has proof that Assad was responsible, they should share that with Russia and both Russia and the US should work together to curb their use and ultimately resolve the Syrian conflict.
Reuben_J said:
Russia was complicit to the crime by association and responsibility.
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Or Trump and his administration were duped, either one. Doesn’t change what I said above though.

I hope this has helped

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
pnewton said:
This action strikes me as both balanced and effective. It is not easy to find a balance between neutrality in someone else’s civil war and not tolerating chemical warfare. This was a proper presidential act.
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Well said! 👍
 
If people stopped excepting Pentagon and Western media spins as the Gospel truth, and started fact checking with Catholic and Orthodox sources who actually live in Syria, they might find that things aren’t quite as they’ve been led to believe.
 
Seamus_L said:
If people stopped excepting Pentagon and Western media spins as the Gospel truth, and started fact checking with Catholic and Orthodox sources who actually live in Syria, they might find that things aren’t quite as they’ve been led to believe.
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I think that is a very valid point.

I don’t think anyone will spin a story that Assad is a wonderful guy. He is oppressive and dictatorial. However, Christians in Syria as a general rule have faired much better under his secular reign than they will under a highly radical Islamic group. This seems to be the obvious alternative to him. As ruthless as he is, he served the same purpose as Saddam Hussein did and that is that is to keep the Middle East in check with add some degree of stability to the region, as shaky as it may appear from the outside.

The West has great hopes of establishing a puppet government in Syria as they have tried to in other Middle Eastern areas They also keep blindly believing these countries will embrace democracy with open arms and be ever thankful to us. We have should have learned from the past that western puppet governments don’t do well in the long run and often run astray of the their intended purpose.
 
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