Trump-Mueller tensions escalate

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Why is Trump not allowing the investigation to be completed? Why are you and his supporters claiming he is clear before hand?
Trump is not preventing the investigation.

Why not claim he is clear beforehand? Supposedly, in this country, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And there’s not even any crime anyone has yet found, as far as we know. This is not really an investigation of any known crime. It’s an investigation to determine whether somebody or other can be charged with a crime. Remarkably unjust.
 
What would you have said if Obama acted the way Trump does? Same thing right? You would defend him?

Since Trump’s inauguration, conservative outlets have baselessly claimed that Obama is running some kind of “shadow government,” a conspiracy theory which has since been invoked by a Republican congressman and by one of Trump’s attorneys. The right-wing hysteria took on a new level of feverishness after Obama met with a handful of former and current world leaders, some of whom he worked closely with as president.

The investigation is about Russia and Trump. Red herrings will not make it go away.
Obama has been very flagrant in his actions and it does seem to highlight his
arrogance. What is Obama telling these world leaders? What signal is he giving
them? Obama should be investigated. His actions are scarier than Trump. An ex-president who can’t stop being president!
 
Trump is not preventing the investigation.

Why not claim he is clear beforehand? Supposedly, in this country, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And there’s not even any crime anyone has yet found, as far as we know. This is not really an investigation of any known crime. It’s an investigation to determine whether somebody or other can be charged with a crime. Remarkably unjust.
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Why is Trump not allowing the investigation to be completed? Why are you and his supporters claiming he is clear before hand?
Your comments regarding hysteria from the right is beyond laughable.From day one of DT duly won presidency the left has been nothing short of apoplectic ,beginning with the “Women’sMarch” which was a reaction to DT misogynistic ( their words,not mine) comments and behaviors.Yet,I have never seen such vulgarity in words no actions from and towards women as was present at that march.In addition it has been an all out effort to find one thing or another to pin on him.All because HC didn’t prevail.Please,get a grip,this isn’t good for our country.He won fair and square,let him do his job.Nothingburger people!
 
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No matter how this all plays out, the Russians have already won because he and his campaign fell in with their machinations and effectively damaged the faith of the American people in the democratic process of the 2016 election and made America a laughingstock in the eyes of the world. That doesn’t MAGA at all…
No, the Russians are winning because they have allies in the effort to keep the American government from functioning. And those allies are the Dems, for whom getting back into power is more important than is the country. If the Russians aren’t paying them to do it, they should, it’s so much to their benefit.
 
Only your assertion offered here.
To be fair, could you provide in your 9 posts so far on this thread, which post(s) you give evidence to support your views?

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The existence of a leak, of some kind, does not prove its source. And you have not specific a leak, let alone proved its source.

And yes, I of course expect you to provide the proof for anything that you proclaim as a fact. If not in the initial posting, certainly when asked.

Truthfulness is important; Discernment on what is or is not a fact is important.
DEMOCRATS should take your advice. If they did, this whole issue would be over in a second.

But instead they all plead the fifth when things get too hot, or they won’t divulge their sources professing privacy… So bottom line, if no possibility of cross examination of “sources”, then there are no supposed “RELIABLE SOURCES” to determine truthfulness… Case closed.
 
The Senate Intelligence Committee is bipartisan (split evenly between Repubican and Democratic), the Senate Judiciary Committee, likewise, but Mueller’s team, whom he chose to represent as is special counsel’s office is not BIPARTISAN.

And leaking doesn’t help the appearance that they are not partisan!!
The leaks are not coming from Mueller’s team. They are coming mainly from the White House and people who have been asked to supply information.
 
Wikipedia is an established source. Are you saying it’s lies because it doesn’t support what you think
Joyful,

did I write those disclaimers? No. Wiki wrote them about themselves.
Joyful Song:
Like I said, I’m a registered Democrat.
I’m sure, No one in the wide world would disagree with that. 😉
Joyful Song:
However I don’t agree with everything democrat robotically. I research many articles, and listen to people speak. I believe republicans and democrats have just as much to contribute to our country. That kind of one eyed extreme thinking on the part of both parties is what’s going to finish off our country.
For your continued education, I just give you this information.
ontheissues.org/celeb/Democratic_Party_Abortion.htm

scroll down to Republican Party

A Catholic who votes Democrat given their direction against life, and the drastic difference they are in, compared to the Republican party on life, puts their own soul in huge jeopardy.

For your information.
 
To be fair, could you provide in your 9 posts so far on this thread, which post(s) you give evidence to support your views?
For the sake of clarity, let’s not mix opinions and claims of fact.

I would be happy to provide the evidence for things that I claimed to be a matter of fact. But help me out, as I did for JosieL, by narrowing this down to some item that you are interested in and that seems doubtful to you.
 
No, the Russians are winning because they have allies in the effort …
I suppose that they do. There is bipartisan interest in finding out exactly what the Russians did in the last election and preventing them from doing it again. There is also, however a minority of Americans who for some strange reason or another, express the opinion that the Russian attacks should remain uninvestigated.
 
Of course you would say that Dismiss any comments that don’t align with your argument.
I say it because it is true. The issue at hand is the claim that Mueller III’s team is responsible for leaks. The counter was made that the leaks were coming from the WH. You seemed to miss that point entirely, as your post did not bear on whether the leaks were from Mueller to not. You appeared only interested in taking a swipe at Obama.
 
I suppose that they do. There is bipartisan interest in finding out exactly what the Russians did in the last election and preventing them from doing it again. There is also, however a minority of Americans who for some strange reason or another, express the opinion that the Russian attacks should remain uninvestigated.
One cannot be so sure it’s a “minority” of Americans for whom this “Russia collusion” thing is little more than a carnival sideshow.
 
Trump is not preventing the investigation.

Why not claim he is clear beforehand? Supposedly, in this country, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And there’s not even any crime anyone has yet found, as far as we know. This is not really an investigation of any known crime. It’s an investigation to determine whether somebody or other can be charged with a crime. Remarkably unjust.
Why is it unjust to find someone has been doing things not in the interest of the US and looking for a) the extent of those activities, b) whether or not those can be prosecuted as crimes and c) whether or not there were US citizens or even US elected officials directly or indirectly involved? This is what the FBI and CIA are supposed to do.
 
One cannot be so sure it’s a “minority” of Americans for whom this “Russia collusion” thing is little more than a carnival sideshow.
As noted before on this thread, there is a bipartisan effort in Congress to investigate. Polls on the matter have found little support for Trump perspective of hoax or witchhunt, or yours of “carnival sideshow”.
 
I say it because it is true. The issue at hand is the claim that Mueller III’s team is responsible for leaks. The counter was made that the leaks were coming from the WH. You seemed to miss that point entirely, as your post did not bear on whether the leaks were from Mueller to not. You appeared only interested in taking a swipe at Obama.
The media has talked about the Obama leftovers and others have advised Trump
to get rid of them. For all we know, they have been the source of many leaks so
how is that deflection? The leaks are probably from multiple sources considering how many there have been.
 
The media has talked about the Obama leftovers and others have advised Trump
to get rid of them. For all we know, they have been the source of many leaks so
how is that deflection? The leaks are probably from multiple sources considering how many there have been.
I have already explained, but will do it again. The matter under discussion was whether or not the leaks came from Mueller III’s team. A response was no, it was from the WH. To which JeanneS made a new assertion that was not related to the point of leaks coming from the Mueller III team.

BTW any luck in sourcing you claim that Republican fund raising was seven times more than Democrats last month?
 
For the sake of clarity, *let’s not mix opinions and claims of fact. *

I would be happy to provide the evidence for things that I claimed to be a matter of fact. But help me out, as I did for JosieL, by narrowing this down to some item that you are interested in and that seems doubtful to you.
For clarity, in your 9 posts I gave #408 ] you denied everyone’s points, even when they provided references for what they said, and you provided no sources yourself for supporting your denials of people’s points in those posts…
 
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