Trump-Mueller tensions escalate

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7_Sorrows said:
Instead of chastising a poster for two wrongs do not make a right, why is the original
offender never chastised when speaking of Trump in derogatory terms?

It is not until a criticism of Hillary or Obama is made that someone fires back with two wrongs don’t make a right. Why not call out the poster who calls Trump an offensive name in the first place instead of shaming a poster who takes liberties with a democrat’s name?
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Exactly!This is the Modus operandi of the left.They love to " tattle" on the more conservative poster’s. Yet never seem to notice the beam in their own eyes.:rolleyes:
 
dvdjs said:
You most certainly did not.
You gave a date and a source that contained information different from your original claim. You will not find a source and a date for your original claim because it is, at best, mistaken.

I think it fair to say that you were making a broader point about fundraising, but your conjectures are moot. You posted something false and held it up as an example of a fact.

It is really important, long before we get to interpretations, conclusions, and conjectures, that we agree to work with “facts” that are true and to correct ones that are mistaken. Any notion can be build up from false “facts”, but that building is pointless.
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I think she means this:
The numbers are striking. In June, the RNC raised $13.5 million to the DNC’s $5.5 million.
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For 2017 so far, the RNC has raised $75.4 million to the DNC’s $38.2 million.
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The RNC started the year with $25.3 million in cash-on-hand. Now it has $44.7 million. The DNC started the year with $10.5 in cash-on-hand. Now, that has fallen to $7.5 million.
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As of June 30, the RNC reported $0 in debt. The DNC reported $3.3 million in debt.
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A look inside the numbers is even worse for the DNC. Looking at collections from small donors – that is, those who contributed less than $200 – the RNC raised $10.5 million in the months of May and June. The DNC raised $5.3 million from small donors in the same time period.
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The RNC’s money total is a record – more than was raised in any previous non-presidential election year. That is true for June, and for all of 2017 as well. The $75.4 million raised this year compares to $55.4 million for the same period in 2015; to $51.2 for the same period in 2014; to $41.1 million for the same period in 2013, and so on going back.
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townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2017/07/26/why-are-republicans-trouncing-democrats-in-fundraising-n2359849
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Sojourner003 said:
The leaks are not coming from Mueller’s team. They are coming mainly from the White House and people who have been asked to supply information.
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And how is the WH getting information about the inner workings of Mueller’s team (shouldn’t that be privy information that not even the WH can access due to a possible conflict of interest)?

Even members of the media are saying this:
President Trump has himself to be blamed for the appointment of Mueller. But that doesn’t mean Mr. Trump or the republic deserves the damage Mr. Mueller seems willing to do to the body politic. Just like former FBI director James Comey and too many other Washington officials, the special council’s office appears to be leaking everything except evidence of collusion.
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wsj.com/articles/mueller-and-associates-1500668345
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No, the logical conclusion to all this, is that it is Mueller’s team who is leaking information to the media/public.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Trump is not preventing the investigation.

Why not claim he is clear beforehand? Supposedly, in this country, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And there’s not even any crime anyone has yet found, as far as we know. This is not really an investigation of any known crime. It’s an investigation to determine whether somebody or other can be charged with a crime. Remarkably unjust.
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I cannot believe people do not understand this, but they are willing to pervert the American justice system in order to bring Trump down.
 
josie_L said:
I cannot believe people do not understand this, but they are willing to pervert the American justice system in order to bring Trump down.
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Or a previous President on some phony birtherism charge by Trump himself. He knows justice all right. :rolleyes:

It’s all about winning to him and the system be dam*ed.
 
josie_L said:
I cannot believe people do not understand this, but they are willing to pervert the American justice system in order to bring Trump down.
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Indeed,the end justifies the means,always with the Dems,left:mad:
 
ProVobis said:
Or a previous President on some phony birtherism charge by Trump himself. He knows justice all right. :rolleyes:

It’s all about winning to him and the system be dam*ed.
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This has nothing to do with what I said as there was no investigation based on said allegations, but regardless, Obama never did show his ORIGINAL birth certificate.

No, I think it’s all about the media and the Dems trying to force him out of office because they’re not happy with the election results, or at the very least, using dirt on him that they could not otherwise attain, paid by tax payers, so they can attack him in the next election.

And the American Justice system be dam*ed.
 
dvdjs said:
You most certainly did not.
You gave a date and a source that contained information different from your original claim. You will not find a source and a date for your original claim because it is, at best, mistaken.

I think it fair to say that you were making a broader point about fundraising, but your conjectures are moot. You posted something false and held it up as an example of a fact.

It is really important, long before we get to interpretations, conclusions, and conjectures, that we agree to work with “facts” that are true and to correct ones that are mistaken. Any notion can be build up from false “facts”, but that building is pointless.
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I don’t have time for your silly arguments and nitpicking.

The problem is you are not happy with any negative posts about the DNC.

Pretty obvious.
 
Don_Ruggero said:
I should hope a moderator would intervene against such a vile statement directed at Mrs. Clinton. It is utterly unworthy of a forum run by laypeople that has, exceedingly graciously, been allowed by its proper Bishop to use the title “Catholic” in its name and to be counted as a Catholic apostolate of the Diocese of San Diego.
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I wanted to say the same thing. Thank you. Your statement carries supremely more weight than mine would have.
 
josie_L said:
This has nothing to do with what I said as there was no investigation based on said allegations, but regardless, Obama never did show his ORIGINAL birth certificate.

No, I think it’s all about the media and the Dems trying to force him out of office because they’re not happy with the election results, or at the very least, using dirt on him that they could not otherwise attain, paid by tax payers, so they can attack him in the next election.

And the American Justice system be dam*ed.
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Really? Supporting, however carefully, birtherism?
 
josie_L said:
This has nothing to do with what I said as there was no investigation based on said allegations, but regardless, Obama never did show his ORIGINAL birth certificate.
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Trump claimed he had people doing investigations on Obama in a video, but he later admitted Obama was born in the states.

Birtherism was all done to invalidate the President, you can bet on that. Why else?
 
ProVobis said:
Not always. Rush Limbaugh had a big problem with the way Trump treated Sessions yesterday.

Or are they all “left” now?
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I think anybody would have issue with these wacky public tweets against Sessions.

Tucker Carlson and Brit Hume have been critical of these attacks.

insider.foxnews.com/2017/07/25/tucker-carlson-blasts-donald-trump-attacking-jeff-sessions-attorney-general

foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/25/brit-hume-trumps-frustration-with-sessions-doesnt-make-any-sense-to-me.html
 
ProVobis said:
Trump claimed he had people doing investigations on Obama in a video, but he later admitted Obama was born in the states.

Birtherism was all done to invalidate the President, you can bet on that. Why else?
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And was the FBI involved, or the Senate Judiciary/Intelligence Committee, and a Special Council trotted out to investigate/probe said ALLEGATION of Obama’s place of birth being outside the U.S.?

No, it wasn’t, because it was baseless, just like the whole Russia/Trump allegation is baseless. It’s as Ridgerunner said:
Why not claim he is clear beforehand? Supposedly, in this country, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And there’s not even any crime anyone has yet found, as far as we know. This is not really an investigation of any known crime. It’s an investigation to determine whether somebody or other can be charged with a crime. Remarkably unjust.
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jesucated said:
Really? Supporting, however carefully, birtherism?
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There was no OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION perverting said American Justice system regarding birtherism as is being done now with Trump, despite the fact that the allegations of Barack not being born in America were and are as baseless as the allegations of a Trump/Russia collusion.
 
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