Trump slams Bannon: ‘When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind’

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No That will be tomorrow’s tweet. That when he will tweet what he said is not what he said “Fake News”! Sanders will have the spin for tomorrows briefing with the press. And the Alt Facts on what he said will be assimilated out to the masses…
 
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So what? Trump responds when attacked. It’s why he won the Republican nomination from “Low Energy Jeb”, “Little Mario”, and “Lyin’ Ted”, and the Presidency from “Crooked Hillary”. Why should he change what’s working? It’s not like you guys are going to start liking him either way.
 
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Didn’t he put it in a press release?

I’m confused. Didn’t Bannon just support Moore and Trump?

It will be interesting to see who ends up team Trump and who ends up Team Bannon.
 
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No That will be tomorrow’s tweet. That when he will tweet what he said is not what he said “Fake News”! Sanders will have the spin for tomorrows briefing with the press. And the Alt Facts on what he said will be assimilated out to the masses…
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I’m sorry, but tomorrow will be telling everyone that Clinton, Comey and Abelin should be in jail and his supporters here somehow claiming that doesn’t mean he wants to jail political prisoners.
 
I’m listening attentively for the regulars here…but all I hear is crickets.

Chirp, Chirp, Chirp!
 
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I think Trump may be a little upset. From another thread:


Saith Bannon:

“The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad s**t, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

Bannon also speculated that Trump Jr had involved his father in the meeting. “The chance that Don Jr did not walk these jumos up to his father’s office on the twenty-sixth floor is zero.”
 
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We expect Trump to respond when attacked. It’s what got him elected. Why change what works? It’s not like you’re going to suddenly support him whatever he does.
 
Perhaps these claims underlie the reasoning for Trump’s tweets earlier today? It would not surprise me if so.
 
I also wonder what effect this may have on Breitbart? Interesting to see if anything changes.
 
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It’s not like you’re going to suddenly support him whatever he does.
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You have it a tad bass ackward…

It is not like he will suddenly do something I will support.

He has proven his inability to adapt from a cultural oddity to a statesman.
 
ucfengr said:
We expect Trump to respond when attacked. It’s what got him elected. Why change what works? It’s not like you’re going to suddenly support him whatever he does.
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This is a little different than a normal attack. Steve Bannon was, until a few months ago, a pretty trusted confidante, and even up to a month ago, was still sufficiently close to the President to be able to call him up and ask him to throw his support openly behind Roy Moore.

It’s true that we can expect Trump to respond to an attack with an attack. The Trump side of this equation isn’t the least bit surprising. It’s the Bannon side that’s shocking. My personal theory is that Bannon wants to drive Kushner out of the White House, or more generally, politically sever the President from his family. It’s not just Kushner he wants out of the White House, he wants to make sure that Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. are also gone. My theory goes further to suggest that because the Kushners are, no matter what official colors they might be wearing now, still basically New York Democrats, Bannon’s world view makes them the enemy, and if they are no longer in a position to politically advise the President, then he will return to Bannon’s righteous cause.

I admit it’s just my theory, and I’m not going to stand on principle and declare it the absolute truth. Another possible explanation that comes to mind is that Bannon is afraid that Congress and/or Mueller might subpoena him next, so he’s making a pre-emptive strike to demonstrate that he has nothing to do with any Russians (and that’s the other part of what we know Bannon made pretty clear to Michael Wolff). I dunno, maybe this theory makes more sense than my first one. There’s certainly a kind of “rats fleeing a sinking ship” feel to the Oval Office these days.

A third theory, which is the most mundane, is that Bannon is nuts. That’s the White House line, but at the same time, considering what happened in Alabama a month ago, it’s pretty clear that Bannon is not only not a “player”, he’s about the furthest thing from a coherent and functional political strategist as one can imagine. Bannon has spent a good deal of time building up a reputation as some sort of right-wing revolutionary who is going to remake the Republican Party, and yet other than getting Trump elected (and honestly, I put that victory on Kellyanne Conway way more than Bannon), and the Alabama catastrophe has stripped him of most of that luster.

Or maybe it’s a bit of all three. Maybe it’s a bit of revenge for Trump picking the Kushners over him, and maybe it’s with the hope that “freed” of the Kushners, Trump will return to the Bannon Way, and while he’s at it, Bannon wants everyone to know he at least didn’t talk to any Russians, and ultimately, surrounding all of it is Bannon’s delusions of grandeur.
 
Hereiam said:
You have it a tad bass ackward…

It is not like he will suddenly do something I will support.
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It seems like we agree; there’s nothing Trump could do that you’d support.
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Steve Bannon was, until a few months ago, a pretty trusted confidante, and even up to a month ago, was still sufficiently close to the President to be able to call him up and ask him to throw his support openly behind Roy Moore.
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I don’t know how close they actually were. I can’t find any evidence that they were BFFs before the Presidential campaign. They probably ran in the same circles when Bannon was with Goldman Sachs, and Trump was doing “The Apprentice”, but I can’t find out much beyond that. They don’t seem like they were as close as Karl Rove and George W. Bush, for example. Maybe they were, but evidence is lacking. Bannon was forced out for some reason, so Trump clearly didn’t value his opinions as much as he did some of his other advisors.
 
Steve Bannon has made a statement that this is fake news!Surprise surprise surprise!
 
ucfengr said:
It seems like we agree; there’s nothing Trump could do that you’d support.
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Yes…almost…

My contention is not that he can’t, but that he is not willing to, and therefore will not.

He’s a narcissistic sociopath, and those afflicted with such disorders are unlikely to change if they haven’t by the time he has reached his age.
 
ucfengr said:
I don’t know how close they actually were. I can’t find any evidence that they were BFFs before the Presidential campaign. They probably ran in the same circles when Bannon was with Goldman Sachs, and Trump was doing “The Apprentice”, but I can’t find out much beyond that. They don’t seem like they were as close as Karl Rove and George W. Bush, for example. Maybe they were, but evidence is lacking. Bannon was forced out for some reason, so Trump clearly didn’t value his opinions as much as he did some of his other advisors.
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Is this the point at which Nikolai Yezhov suddenly disappears from the photo?
 
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