Trump slams Dem senator for 'phony' Vietnam bravery story

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This is from Fox News, other places such as the Washington Post, NYT and Yahoo have similar stories.

Here Trump goes after the Connecticut Senator for his Vietnam stories.

Trump went after McCain and said “He wasn’t a Hero” because he was a caught during war.

This is my question to those on the right and those that support Trump.

Republicans call themselves Pro- Military, Pro- Police, but when a democrat calls for less money to the military, republicans call democrats anti-American. If a democrat states that cops are corrupt, Republicans call democrats pro- criminals.

Here is a republican calling out another military person, what will republicans say after Trump has gone after these men?
 
This is from Fox News, other places such as the Washington Post, NYT and Yahoo have similar stories.

Here Trump goes after the Connecticut Senator for his Vietnam stories.

Trump went after McCain and said “He wasn’t a Hero” because he was a caught during war.

This is my question to those on the right and those that support Trump.

Republicans call themselves Pro- Military, Pro- Police, but when a democrat calls for less money to the military, republicans call democrats anti-American. If a democrat states that cops are corrupt, Republicans call democrats pro- criminals.

Here is a republican calling out another military person, what will republicans say after Trump has gone after these men?
do you have a reference for this? I couldn’t find it.
 
This is from Fox News, other places such as the Washington Post, NYT and Yahoo have similar stories.

Here Trump goes after the Connecticut Senator for his Vietnam stories.

Trump went after McCain and said “He wasn’t a Hero” because he was a caught during war.

This is my question to those on the right and those that support Trump.

Republicans call themselves Pro- Military, Pro- Police, but when a democrat calls for less money to the military, republicans call democrats anti-American. If a democrat states that cops are corrupt, Republicans call democrats pro- criminals.

Here is a republican calling out another military person, what will republicans say after Trump has gone after these men?
If I recall, in the case of McCain, Trump was responding to an attack from McCain, he wasn’t the instigator. Trump’s unwillingness to ignore an attack was one of the reasons he gained so much early support. Quoting Lincoln’s comment of Grant (“I can’t spare this man, he fights”) was a common rejoinder for early Trump supporters. Combine that with the wearing thin of McCain’s “Maverick” schtick and it’s not surprising that Trump supporters weren’t all that upset about Trump’s criticism of McCain. He symbolizes a lot of what Trump supporters hate about Washington.

Regarding Blumenthal, he did claim to be a Vietnam veteran when we was just a reservist who never deployed outside his home state (or CONUS, in any case). It seems to be a legitimate target of attack. It seems kind of disingenuous to complain about being called out for something you actually did.
 
Oh, okay. Found something in the “Toronto Sun”.

Looks like Trump responded to Blumenthal’s criticism of him by again bringing up the admitted fact that Blumenthal claimed he was a Vietnam veteran when he wasn’t.

No matter what, it seems like a tempest in a teapot.
 
Outside of the politics of the situation, my father was a Vietnam veteran. He was an officer that saw combat. As unpopular as the Vietnam conflict was, he finds it humorous that many will say they were in the Vietnam conflict when that wasn’t the case. The last place my father wanted to be was in Vietnam. In the end he’s pleased that he served his country, & very happy he survived, but finds the whole I served but didn’t curious.
 
There are many things for which Trump can be criticized. This ain’t one of 'em.

Candidate’s Words on Vietnam Service Differ From History

At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”

There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.


The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.

In 1970, with his last deferment in jeopardy, he landed a coveted spot in the Marine Reserve, which virtually guaranteed that he would not be sent to Vietnam. He joined a unit in Washington that conducted drills and other exercises and focused on local projects, like fixing a campground and organizing a Toys for Tots drive.

Many politicians have faced questions over their decisions during the Vietnam War, and Mr. Blumenthal, who is seeking the seat being vacated by Senator Christopher J. Dodd, is not alone in staying out of the war.

But what is striking about Mr. Blumenthal’s record is the contrast between the many steps he took that allowed him to avoid Vietnam, and the misleading way he often speaks about that period of his life now, especially when he is speaking at veterans’ ceremonies or other patriotic events.

Sometimes his remarks have been plainly untrue, as in his speech to the group in Norwalk. At other times, he has used more ambiguous language, but the impression left on audiences can be similar.

In an interview on Monday, the attorney general said that he had misspoken about his service during the Norwalk event and might have misspoken on other occasions. “My intention has always been to be completely clear and accurate and straightforward, out of respect to the veterans who served in Vietnam,” he said.

But an examination of his remarks at the ceremonies shows that he does not volunteer that his service never took him overseas. And he describes the hostile reaction directed at veterans coming back from Vietnam, intimating that he was among them.

**In 2003, he addressed a rally in Bridgeport, where about 100 military families gathered to express support for American troops overseas. “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,” Mr. Blumenthal said. “Let us do better by this generation of men and women.”
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At a 2008 ceremony in front of the Veterans War Memorial Building in Shelton, he praised the audience for paying tribute to troops fighting abroad, noting that America had not always done so.

“I served during the Vietnam era,” he said. “I remember the taunts, the insults, sometimes even physical abuse.”

Mr. Blumenthal, 64, is known as a brilliant lawyer who likes to argue cases in court and uses language with power and precision. He is also savvy about the news media and attentive to how he is portrayed in the press.

But the way he speaks about his military service has led to confusion and frequent mischaracterizations of his biography in his home state newspapers. In at least eight newspaper articles published in Connecticut from 2003 to 2009, he is described as having served in Vietnam.

The New Haven Register on July 20, 2006, described him as “a veteran of the Vietnam War,” and on April 6, 2007, said that the attorney general had “served in the Marines in Vietnam.” On May 26, 2009, The Connecticut Post, a Bridgeport newspaper that is the state’s third-largest daily, described Mr. Blumenthal as “a Vietnam veteran.” The Shelton Weekly reported on May 23, 2008, that Mr. Blumenthal “was met with applause when he spoke about his experience as a Marine sergeant in Vietnam.”

And the idea that he served in Vietnam has become such an accepted part of his public biography that when a national outlet, Slate magazine, produced a profile of Mr. Blumenthal in 2000, it said he had “enlisted in the Marines rather than duck the Vietnam draft.”

It does not appear that Mr. Blumenthal ever sought to correct those mistakes.

More: nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html?pagewanted=all
 
Oh, okay. Found something in the “Toronto Sun”.

Looks like Trump responded to Blumenthal’s criticism of him by again bringing up the admitted fact that Blumenthal claimed he was a Vietnam veteran when he wasn’t.

No matter what, it seems like a tempest in a teapot.
We see lots of those these days.
 
I have very little respect for Trump, but I don’t see how noting that Blumenthal misled people about his wartime service is “anti-military.”
 
I am not a fan of Trump, but the remind everyone of Blumenthal’s blatant lie is a good thing in my opinion. If Dick wants to play the game, he better know the rules.
 
I am not a fan of Trump, but the remind everyone of Blumenthal’s blatant lie is a good thing in my opinion. If Dick wants to play the game, he better know the rules.
How does do the Scriptures put it? Do not pick the smoking cinder off of your brother’s coat until you have doused the flames leaping out of your own pants.

Or something like that. 😉
 
I am not a fan of Trump, but the remind everyone of Blumenthal’s blatant lie is a good thing in my opinion. If Dick wants to play the game, he better know the rules.
Yep. 👍 Absolutely. Blumenthal actually is a veteran, but he was a reservist who only served stateside. To be fair to him, this was during the tailend of the Vietnam era, but he never actually fought in Vietnam or anything, and his five or more draft deferments make it plain that he was hellbent on not going there. From what I know about him, he fits my idea of what a politician is to a T. Or even more precisely, he reminds me of any number of dim-witted rich kids who’ve been my bosses over the years at various jobs. I’ve always found it unnerving how people like that never fail to swiftly rise through the ranks to the utmost positions of power. 🤷
 
Blumenthal was on CNN this morning, discussing trump and the investigation. He wasn’t discussing his own military record.

Trump instead of issuing a fact by fact rebuttal of what Blumenthal spoke about, he issued a Twitter attack (than continued into this afternoon) against Blumenthal and his lack of military service in Vietnam.

It was an ad hominem attack.
 
Blumenthal since this took place has said repeatedly, that he intended to say he served “during,” the Vietnam War. He made a mistake saying he served “in” Vietnam.

OK, I can give him some room for this gaff.

But for Trump who never served in the military, never mind in combat, instead, Trump received five deferments of his own during the Vietnam war: three for medical reasons, and two educational.

He really shouldn’t be pointing fingers at a man who in fact served in the Marine Reserves.

Jim
 
Blumenthal since this took place has said repeatedly, that he intended to say he served “during,” the Vietnam War. He made a mistake saying he served “in” Vietnam.

OK, I can give him some room for this gaff.

But for Trump who never served in the military, never mind in combat, instead, Trump received five deferments of his own during the Vietnam war: three for medical reasons, and two educational.

He really shouldn’t be pointing fingers at a man who in fact served in the Marine Reserves.

Jim
I agree with you, the McCain fiasco could be due to a power clash, but Trump did question McCain and his heroism.
Now you have this situation, he’s going after another former military man. To me it’s mind blowing that you can call Trump a pro military person after these two incidents
 
What I find funny is that Trump calls him the biggest liar in US history.

Didn’t he say the same about Clinton and Cruz?
 
Blumenthal since this took place has said repeatedly, that he intended to say he served “during,” the Vietnam War. He made a mistake saying he served “in” Vietnam.

OK, I can give him some room for this gaff.

But for Trump who never served in the military, never mind in combat, instead, Trump received five deferments of his own during the Vietnam war: three for medical reasons, and two educational.

He really shouldn’t be pointing fingers at a man who in fact served in the Marine Reserves.

Jim
When someone repeats the same mistake over and over it is hard to believe it is an honest mistake.
 
I am not a fan of Trump, but the remind everyone of Blumenthal’s blatant lie is a good thing in my opinion. If Dick wants to play the game, he better know the rules.
Not “Stolen Valor” … but maybe “borrowed valor”.
 
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