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I saw Richard Grenell comment on Twitter that this poll has a +10 Democratic sample over Republicans.

Why? Why? Why? Their sample of Democrats is almost double than what the actual Democratic turnout advantage was in 2012, at +6 I believe.

I’m taking that poll with a pinch of salt.
 
I saw Richard Grenell comment on Twitter that this poll has a +10 Democratic sample over Republicans.

Why? Why? Why? Their sample of Democrats is almost double than what the actual Democratic turnout advantage was in 2012, at +6 I believe.

I’m taking that poll with a pinch of salt.
Are we starting to talk UnSkewed Polls again? You know how that turned out…
 
I’m taking that poll with a pinch of salt.
You’re taking the Washington Post/ABC poll with a grain of salt, but seem to think highly of the LA Times poll even though it has been an outlier for weeks and has generally not been supported by other polls.
 
Also according to a Republican intellectual the Republican Party alas has become the Party of White Nationalism:

A Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is going to die

About the author (from Wiki):

Roy has advised three Republican Party presidential candidates. He was a health care policy advisor to Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign and was the senior advisor to Rick Perry’s 2016 campaign. After Rick Perry withdrew from the race, Roy joined the 2016 presidential campaign of Marco Rubio as a policy advisor.
Nate Silver comments on survey data among White Republicans and White Democrats. This is only regarding towards Black people, not other people, but it’s relevant:

“There are white racists in both parties. By most questions, they represent a minority of white voters in both parties. They probably represent a slightly larger minority of white Republicans than white Democrats.”

fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/

Does the actual survey data show that the Republican Party is the “party of white nationalism”? There is a slightly larger minority Republicans than Democrats holding negative racial views, and this shouldn’t be downplayed, but it’s still a minority of the party, and it doesn’t correspond with an entire party being a party of White nationalism. Negative racial views are wrong regardless of party affiliation.

Regarding both parties and issues of race, Avik Roy unfortunately doesn’t discuss the positive contribution that Republicans played for over 100 years trying to defend and stand up for the rights of Blacks and how Democrats have a pretty poor Congressional record when it comes to these issues historically: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=13801255&postcount=1287
 
You’re taking the Washington Post/ABC poll with a grain of salt, but seem to think highly of the LA Times poll even though it has been an outlier for weeks and has generally not been supported by other polls.
I don’t think I ever commented on here that I think that way about the poll LA Times poll. I posted the poll, like I’ve posted polls in the past that show Trump in the lead, or Clinton in the lead. I don’t know about the samples in the LA Times poll.

If any poll has a Democratic advantage percentage over Republicans that is nearly double what the actual turnout advantage percentage was for Democrats over Republicans in 2012, I am probably going to be skeptical.
 
I don’t think I ever commented on here that I think that way about the poll LA Times poll. I posted the poll, like I’ve posted polls in the past that show Trump in the lead, or Clinton in the lead. I don’t know about the samples in the LA Times poll.

If any poll has a Democratic advantage percentage over Republicans that is nearly double what the actual turnout advantage percentage was for Democrats over Republicans in 2012, I am probably going to be skeptical.
I think it would be great fun if every Trump supporter interviewed by pollsters would simply state, “You know I am seriously thinking about voting for Hillary,” suddenly giving her a 100% favorability rating (leaving everyone scratching their heads) and then turn out in droves come election time to vote for Trump.

It would give the pollsters absolute hysterical conniptions in the mean time and an awful hangover after the final results are in. The benefit would be that polls would never be trusted again as indicators of anything. People would go back to prognostication by reading tea leaves or entrails of sheep like it was done back in the good ole days.

Personally, I think polls are simply a means for those with the inclination to control group-think the feedback mechanism for indicating back to them their successes and failures. Why not toss a huge monkey wrench into that social manipulation machinery to forever demolish it?
 
I saw Richard Grenell comment on Twitter that this poll has a +10 Democratic sample over Republicans.

Why? Why? Why? Their sample of Democrats is almost double than what the actual Democratic turnout advantage was in 2012, at +6 I believe.

I’m taking that poll with a pinch of salt.
Most polls are oversampling Dems right now. Dem enthusiasm is up in the wake of their convention, so Dems are more willing to answer pollster questions, leading to oversampling. Polls try to adjust for that skew, but the larger the oversample the harder it is to correct. We won’t really know if the current polls are accurate for a couple weeks as things settle in. I think its fair to say that Hillary is leading, but its hard to judge the depth of her lead right now (at least IMHO).
 
Most polls are oversampling Dems right now. Dem enthusiasm is up in the wake of their convention, so Dems are more willing to answer pollster questions, leading to oversampling. Polls try to adjust for that skew, but the larger the oversample the harder it is to correct. We won’t really know if the current polls are accurate for a couple weeks as things settle in. I think its fair to say that Hillary is leading, but its hard to judge the depth of her lead right now (at least IMHO).
Have to see as things “settle”.
 
My husband and I took the kids to the movies last weekend at prime time in a very busy location. On his way back from getting popcorn, he popped into the theatre for Hillary’s America to see who had actually purchased tickets for it. There were six people in total and the film had already started: all white men with very white hair.
Let me guess - Peter will say “bandwagon fallacy”.
Nah. It suffices to point out that millions and billions of dollars are forked out to watch “entertaining” movies, but relatively paltry amounts for anything educational. Audiences for anything which prompts thinking just plummet.

Or, put another way, compare the numbers of students in entry level university courses to those taking post grad studies. The numbers dwindle incredibly.

Truth doesn’t sell – tawdry entertainment on the other hand…

Bread and circuses.
 
The George P. Bush who is the Commissioner of the Texas General Land Office? Should his opinion carry much weight with GOP voters?
George P. Bush is my favorite Bush. He is also the most conservative and very likeable.
This election puts him in a difficult spot, but I think his opinion does carry weight among
conservative voters.
 
The George P. Bush who is the Commissioner of the Texas General Land Office? Should his opinion carry much weight with GOP voters?
This is a member of the Bush family, Jeb Bush’s son… this is a big deal.
 
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George P. Bush is my favorite Bush. He is also the most conservative and very likeable.
This election puts him in a difficult spot, but I think his opinion does carry weight among
conservative voters.
I was intrigued by George P Bush, because I never heard of him, and I tried to Google his standings on conservative issues, but I couldn’t find any sources. Can you please show me why he’s the most conservative of all the Bushes?
 
There were six people in total and the film had already started: all white men with very white hair.
Perhaps Gandalf and a few friends were holding a private viewing?

Racial profiling much?

Are you saying old white lives DON’T matter?
 
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