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SuperLuigi said:
The Democratic Party system is rigged. .
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Fiorina says that the Republican system is rigged. If the whole American system is rigged, then I guess that America is not the great democratic republic it claims to be.
 
JimG said:
“Those who love Trump—and those who loathe him—should think more carefully about the importance of free speech.”

“As with Islam, it’s best not to question the belief system of the left, because it is protected by strict blasphemy laws. If you disagree with the tenets of leftists, you are not, from their perspective, entitled to your opinion, you are committing blasphemy. And you deserve to be punished.”

The Left’s War On Free Speech
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Good article, and imo we have been speaking on two separate issues right along. Free Speech being the priority, Trump being a secondary consideration.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Of all the things said about Trump, to me this is the least worrisome, if it’s worthy of worry at all. There are at least “two” of everybody. There is the lawyer who is sometimes solicitous and kind, then hard-edged and entrapping. There is the businessman who drives a stiff bargain, but then sends the counterparty a turkey at Thanksgiving. There is the kindly doctor who sometimes gets stern with his patient when the patient does not follow advice. There is the priest who is kindly, but nevertheless refuses to budge when we try to justify bad behavior like leaving our spouse for the “true love of my life”.

My only objection to the statement is that there are probably more than just two Donald Trumps, as is true of almost everybody.
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This is so well said!!!
 
Tomdstone said:
Fiorina says that the Republican system is rigged.
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Oh please. :rolleyes: Clearly the “rigged game” you referred to was the criteria that had been set concerning who got invited to the debate. She never said the Republican system is rigged.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
As the leader of the free world, I don’t think the United States can take a neutral stance. It works for Switzerland, but their entire population is only about 7-8 million. People don’t care too much what side their on, if any.
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I agree. We are a country of importers and exporters. You can’t stop them on a dime.

As for making this country “great,” the dollar is already the default currency of the world and can’t be much stronger.

But this guy is able to procure loans, whether coming out of bankruptcy or not. So if he can keep bamboozling the banks and his investors, then there should be no problem with running for President.
 
Peter_J said:
Well, maybe. 😊 I don’t deny that in South Carolina’s primary, one candidate got 32.5% of the votes but 100% of the delegates.
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I voted in Illinois yesterday and it’s baffling the way the primaries are run.

I could choose one of ten to be the nominee (or not) but I could vote for up to 3 delegates who might represent different candidates altogether.
 
Peter_J said:
FollowChrist34, you asked if I think Trump will run third-party if he doesn’t win the GOP nominations. I don’t know if he would; but I say let him take the low road if he wants to. Much better than him getting the nomination and us taking the low road (i.e. running Kasich or whoever as our own third-party candidate).
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👍 I agree.

But it remains to be seen if Trump can even be stopped from winning the 1237 delegates numerically. We need to watch momentum in the next several weeks. Will it be Cruz or Kasich or Trump consolidating/running the table - what happens when C/K voters clash along the inevitable conservative / moderate fault lines? Everything is up in the air. Trump has a good chance to build internal support from here, at least partially.

In the GOP overall, how many non-Trumpers cave, how many hold? Even on Fox News you can just see the Republican commentators going to Trump; others resisting. This is playing itself out everywhere in the party, all levels. And, no matter who goes 3rd party (and I sincerely hope one of us does - Trumpers v NonTrumpers) this splits the vote roughly 60-40, somewhere in there. I know we are all focused on stopping Trump (and the Trumpers are focused on winning the nomination), but at some point we have to get to this math - we are divided more or less in half…against the Dems. I mean I was an English major and I can figure out that math in November…and please don’t tell me that Cruz will unite us all and defeat Hillary. The larger existential problem here is that there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
 
Peter_J said:
Oh please. :rolleyes: Clearly the “rigged game” you referred to was the criteria that had been set concerning who got invited to the debate. She never said the Republican system is rigged.
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"The fact that I’m not on that debate stage is proof positive that the game is rigged,” Fiorina said. “The game is rigged.”

Firiona observed that, early in the campaign, RNC officials said they had to use polls as a benchmark because of the number of candidates.
breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/05/breitbart-news-daily-carly-fiornia-the-system-is-rigged/
 
Can a Catholic in good conscience vote for Trump?
March 16, 2016 4:48 PM

(perhaps this is posted elsewhere). Wow. Not much more to say. (I guess we each take it from here on our own conscience - another argument for Kasich or Cruz I guess 😉 - which is fair enough)
Fr. Thomas Petri, academic dean at the Dominican House of Studies in Washington, D.C., added that when all available political candidates support intrinsically evil acts, “Faithful Citizenship” makes clear that the faithful are permitted to vote for the candidate whom they believe will “do less damage.”
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“Catholics must be careful to understand the very grave and immoral positions that Trump espouses both politically and in his personal life. If they vote for him, it cannot be because of his partisanship or because of those grave immoral positions, but because a Catholic, in good conscience, after reviewing the situation, may believe that Trump is the lesser evil of all possible candidates,” Fr. Petri said.
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“In this election cycle, should Clinton and Trump be the two nominees for the presidential election, Catholics must either not vote or choose one after serious and careful consideration,” he continued. “We Catholics are not permitted to vote for either flippantly or as a matter of routine.”
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Stephen White, a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C., warned Catholics against voting for Trump simply to stop pro-abortion Hillary Clinton.
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“A Trump presidency would be a disaster for life, the family, and religious freedom, and that’s before we get to Mr. Trump’s poisonous xenophobia,” he stated, adding that “Trump cares not a whit for Catholic concerns on these issues.”
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“Trump is also a savvy negotiator,” he added, and could very well use pro-life and other good causes as trade bait in political negotiations with the opposing party.
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“It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world…but for Trump?”
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catholicworldreport.com/NewsBriefs/Default.aspx?rssGuid=can-a-catholic-in-good-conscience-vote-for-trump-76894/
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
What did the good Father say about voting for HRC or Bernie?🙂
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I would hope that people would know already what the answer to that would be. But when it comes to Trump, many seem to have some kind of blinders on. (I guess that’s how he manages to be Teflon Don.)
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Can a Catholic in good conscience vote for Trump?
March 16, 2016 4:48 PM

(perhaps this is posted elsewhere). Wow. Not much more to say. (I guess we each take it from here on our own conscience - another argument for Kasich or Cruz I guess 😉 - which is fair enough)

catholicworldreport.com/NewsBriefs/Default.aspx?rssGuid=can-a-catholic-in-good-conscience-vote-for-trump-76894/
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This is why I very well might write in my own name on my ballot. And I’m not being facetious. I refuse to vote for HRC and cannot fathom, under any circumstances, voting for Trump.
 

Catholic League Demands Apology From Trump Spokeswoman Over Anti-Catholic Tweet

Karina Pierson spokesperson for Trump use to work on Cruz campaign…no one really vetted this person…anti-chistian and anti-Catholic. Has unique history of distortion, past history that few no about.

The nation’s largest Catholic civil rights organization is demanding an apology from Trump campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson for a tweet in which she openly mocked the Catholic Church. Bill Donohue, the president of the Catholic League, said that he also wants Donald Trump to give assurances that he will not tolerate anti-Catholicism in his campaign.

“No one makes a comment like this without harboring an animus against Catholicism. It would be instructive to learn more about Pierson’s thoughts on the subject. Perhaps she can share them with us,” Donohue said in a press release on Monday. “In the meantime, Pierson needs to apologize to Catholics for making such a snide remark. We would also like to hear assurances from Donald Trump that he will not tolerate anti-Catholicism in his campaign.”
 
Although this happened last week, I haven’t seen it mentioned on CAF (bolding mine).
A group of conservative Catholics is appealing to their fellow believers in a last-ditch effort to stop Donald Trump from becoming the GOP presidential nominee, writing in an essay published by the National Review that the frontrunner is “manifestly unfit to be president of the United States.”
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The essay, “An Appeal to Our Fellow Catholics,” was co-written by Princeton professor Robert P. George and St. John Paul II biographer George Weigel, and it is co-signed by about three dozen lay Catholics, many of whom are active in conservative academic and nonprofit circles.
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Together,** they urge Catholics “to reject [Trump’s] candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination** by supporting a genuinely reformist candidate.”
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cruxnow.com/life/2016/03/07/prominent-conservative-catholics-have-a-message-dont-vote-for-trump/?p1=RelatedArticles
 
Abynissa said:

Catholic League Demands Apology From Trump Spokeswoman Over Anti-Catholic Tweet

Karina Pierson spokesperson for Trump use to work on Cruz campaign…no one really vetted this person…anti-chistian and anti-Catholic. Has unique history of distortion, past history that few no about.

The nation’s largest Catholic civil rights organization is demanding an apology from Trump campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson for a tweet in which she openly mocked the Catholic Church. Bill Donohue, the president of the Catholic League, said that he also wants Donald Trump to give assurances that he will not tolerate anti-Catholicism in his campaign.

“No one makes a comment like this without harboring an animus against Catholicism. It would be instructive to learn more about Pierson’s thoughts on the subject. Perhaps she can share them with us,” Donohue said in a press release on Monday. “In the meantime, Pierson needs to apologize to Catholics for making such a snide remark. We would also like to hear assurances from Donald Trump that he will not tolerate anti-Catholicism in his campaign.”
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So her tweet basically showed that she didn’t believe the catholic church was started by Jesus. That, unfortunately, is probably a common understanding among protestants.
 
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