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Little_Sheep
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Post the stance all you like - the position that Murderers of Innocent Life don’t need to be tried as such is nonsense. And certainly, people capable of rational thought see this.
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Mary_Gail_36
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cnn.com/2016/03/31/politics/trump-view-from-south-korea-japan/index.html
So high was the level of concern, Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe felt the need to respond publicly, saying, “whoever will become the next president of the United States, the Japan-U.S. alliance is the cornerstone of Japan’s diplomacy.”
Japan remains the only country to have had nuclear weapons used against it and has had a non-nuclear policy and pacifist constitution since the end of World War II.
Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida added, “It is impossible that Japan will arm itself with nuclear weapons.”
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Peter_J
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You want to tell us what we should do? Give us try, maybe we’ll listen. Or will you just stick with Trump-propaganda?Post the stance all you like - the position that Murderers of Innocent Life don’t need to be tried as such is nonsense. And certainly, people capable of rational thought see this.
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queenofheartscv
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Little Sheep is not even a trump supporter. Ridiculous!You want to tell us what we should do? Give us try, maybe we’ll listen. Or will you just stick with Trump-propaganda?
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josie_L
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I don’t want to reduce abortion I want it eradicated, even if it takes longer to do so (“slow and steady wins the race”).Both sides are all about reducing abortion as an option women sometimes face.
Surely, we could find common ground on that desire.
God bless!
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carpenter383
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Scary stuff! Trump should seriously become educated on these issues before making any comments
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Peter_J
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Quite ridiculous.Little Sheep is not even a trump supporter. Ridiculous!
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Peter_J
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Be prepared for more of this. (Is anyone surprised?)
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Thorolfr
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But even with fewer abortion clinics, it will probably become easier for women in the early stages of pregnancy to have an abortion:In the mean time, abortion clinics are closing down, and more and more people are coming to the conclusion that abortion is evil and becoming pro-life (the power of prayers).
A groundbreaking new experiment is launching in four states that could make abortion dramatically more accessible by allowing women to obtain abortion-inducing drugs through the mail.
The program, which will be run as a pilot study out of four clinics in New York, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington state, is a first in the US – and one that its architects urgently hope to expand as the country’s abortion clinics close down at historic rates.
The program works by making a key shift in how mifepristone, the nation’s most-used abortion drug, can be dispensed. Under current FDA rules, the drug is only available in clinical settings – never in pharmacies. The pilot, however, will permit four abortion clinics in four states to ship the medication by mail.
theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/31/new-us-program-abortion-without-clinic-mifepristone-mifeprexPatients in their first nine weeks of pregnancy can receive the pills by mail if they live in the same state as the clinic and undergo an ultrasound and blood test to confirm the pregnancy and rule out risks. (Unlike abortion clinics, the thinking goes, facilities offering blood tests and ultrasounds are plentiful.) A clinician will then counsel the patient on taking the pills via video conference. The counseling and drug regimen are unchanged.
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Good_Tidings
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Hey, call me crazy, but I am so sick of men telling woman how they should feel and behave. I think that only women should be allowed to determine the choices that women have. No one knows better what is involved in making this decision, certainly not men.
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_Abyssinia
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Isn’t this telemedicine? According to this article, as of 2014, “17 states have laws or regulations that specifically ban telemedicine for medication abortion”.But even with fewer abortion clinics, it will probably become easier for women in the early stages of pregnancy to have an abortion:
theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/31/new-us-program-abortion-without-clinic-mifepristone-mifeprex
There could be a way for this drug to be reversed: abortionpillreversal.com
Pro lifers need to highlight, promote and inform more people of this possibility.
There are some absolutely awful stories about women who have taken Mifeprex.
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Peter_J
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Good Tidings, I was with you when I read your first sentence. Then I read your second sentence
and thought “Wow, that’s really sexist.” (And yes, I do have to acknowledge that this is a thread about Donald Trump.)I think that only women should be allowed to determine the choices that women have.
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Tomdstone
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No. I won’t. I don;t like Kasich. I do like the tax plan of Cruz, but I would not agree with carpet bombing as innocent children would likely be killed. Your name is follow Christ. Well, IMHO, Christ would not favor carpet bombing children and once again, Christ would move for peace in Ukraine, not sending in more and more weapons to exacerbate the situation as Kasich favors. France, Germany, Ukraine and Russia signed the Minsk II peace agreement and now Ukraine says it won’t follow the Minsk II peace agreement that it signed. In Minsk II, Ukraine signed for autonomy in the eastern section of Ukraine, and it now says it won’t go along with it. Kasich’s solution is to send more weapons to Ukraine. He has no program to bring about a peaceful, diplomatic solution. Just more killing. I can’t vote for that. I vote for peace and peaceful diplomacy, not more war.Get out and vote for Cruz or Kasich in your primaries if they are still coming up.
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_Abyssinia
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You don’t think there are any pro-life atheists or other non-religious pro-lifers who believe that? If they are not religious, why would they have a religious belief? If they believe that about killing a human being, they will base it on science, on something other than religion, therefore it can’t be a purely religious belief, but a belief that people can hold regardless of whether they are religious or not.The belief that an abortion at all stages of development is the “killing of a human being” is nevertheless a religious belief. It all depends on when someone believes that a fertilized egg become a “human being” or a “baby”. Is something which at four weeks old is about the size of a poppy seed and has no heart or brain already a “human being” or a “baby”? Does it have a soul and how could this even be demonstrated? The answers to this for Catholics are based on Church teachings with which others, even other Christians, might not agree.
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Peter_J
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P.S. I heard pretty much the same from Wendy Davis just a few minutes ago. One sentence in particular: she said that Trump is “putting into words what [Republicans] have been doing right along.”Be prepared for more of this. (Is anyone surprised?)
Like I said, we should be prepared for more (and more).
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Peter_J
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Good luck. I think you may have just taken on the biggest Pro-abortion *dogma *that there is. I hope you win of course, but something like that sometimes seems indestructible.You don’t think there are any pro-life atheists or other non-religious pro-lifers who believe that? If they are not religious, why would they have a religious belief? If they believe that about killing a human being, they will base it on science, on something other than religion, therefore it can’t be a purely religious belief, but a belief that people can hold regardless of whether they are religious or not.
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Tomdstone
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I didn’t know that Trump wants to “demolish NATO”?So he wants to demolish NATO?.
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Peter_J
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P.S. This very possibly won’t help at all, but I feel I have to try logic: If saying that a fetus is a human being is a “religious belief”, then isn’t saying that one is a human being after birth also a “religious belief”? Seriously.
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Tomdstone
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Suppose a man contracts to kill his wife. He has the killer use some gruesome method, such as are used in the partial birth abortions. Would you say that the husband was a victim of the culture of death and so, being a victim, he should be allowed to go free and unpunished?I believe that such woman are victims of the culture of death,
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Thorolfr
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Trump did apparently say that the US should leave NATO:I didn’t know that Trump wants to “demolish NATO”?
Kasich suggested that Trump’s abortion gaffe fitted a wider pattern that shows he is woefully short of policy knowledge and unprepared for office.
theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/31/donald-trump-abortion-remarks-biggest-campaign-crisis“Well, first of all, he united the pro-choice and pro-life groups, which I don’t know how he did that,” the Ohio governor told MSNBC. “But think about this: he said he would use nuclear weapons, maybe in Europe, that we would leave Nato, he would have a supreme court justice who would have to investigate Hillary’s emails, that would be one of the requirements for being a justice. Then he said we should destroy the Geneva conventions.”
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