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Abortion will not be ended at the federal level. There are estimates that abortion would be lowered by a mere 6 % if Roe v. Wade were overturned, because of all the state laws that would remain in place.

If one is pro-life, trying to influence the legal system is an utterly inefficient, dead-end way of improving things. We have to work on the root causes of abortion.
Why not both? I believe people should use the gifts and situations they have been given, whether it be political, monetary, or acts of service.

In other words, Teresa of Avila does not turn to Mother Teresa and say, “We have no need for you.” The hand cannot tell the foot, “We have no need of you.”
 
Abortion will not be ended at the federal level. There are estimates that abortion would be lowered by a mere 6 % if Roe v. Wade were overturned, because of all the state laws that would remain in place.

If one is pro-life, trying to influence the legal system is an utterly inefficient, dead-end way of improving things. We have to work on the root causes of abortion.
What was created out of the whole cloth by the “legal system” (i.e. Supreme Court justices) and declared a “Constitutional right”, then only the legal system can fix it.

“Working on the root causes” of abortion is just a deflection. Pro-abortionists have been saying that for decades, yet their party never does anything about it. And, of course, most abortions are a “way of life” preference.
 
Abortion will not be ended at the federal level. There are estimates that abortion would be lowered by a mere 6 % if Roe v. Wade were overturned, because of all the state laws that would remain in place.

If one is pro-life, trying to influence the legal system is an utterly inefficient, dead-end way of improving things. We have to work on the root causes of abortion./QUOTE

I recommend reading Pope Paul IV Humanae Vitae. He was divinely guided in writing this encyclical. He predicted that out of the ubiquitous use of contraception we as a society would see an increase in abortion,because using contraception already puts one in the mindset that sex without the natural consequences of pregnancy can be avoided.When that fails,abortion is the next alternative.Also,promiscuity,unfaithfulness within marriages,pornography ,objectification of women, homosexuality,etc.It is all there. So until and which time we address the soul sickness that has come out of the sexual revolution and all the resultant consequences,nothing will change.You are correct on that.
 
That is exactly what is going to give Clinton the edge in November, lack of unity in the Republican Party. Is Donald Trump the ideal candidate, no, but he is certainly better than Clinton or anyone the Democrats can put up. Republicans not rallying around Trump will be committing political suicide. If Clinton should get elected, the Republicans will be scratching their heads and trying to figure out what went wrong. Remember the old adage, “United we stand, Divided we fall”, and that is what will happen if the Republicans can’t get their act together. It will be their own fault. I for one, will be voting for Trump. We have to keep Clinton OUT of the White House. She will destroy this country.
I can’t speak for everyone, but for everyone I’ve talked with (of all political affiliations), nobody wants Clinton or Trump. That might be because I’m from Minnesota, and a lot of people here like third-party candidates. Many are planning to vote for Gary Johnson. It seems to change in regards to which major candidate will be affected by this more. In this particular election, I hope more people spend less time worrying about if a vote for Gary Johnson will take away form a major party candidate, and more time trying to get more people to vote for him. There are a lot of “Never Hillary” people that wanted Bernie, I’m trying to get them to vote for Johnson, and I know many that are considering it. The same goes for some that I’ve talked to that are "Never Trump"people.

He is by no means the perfect candidate, but I think he’s still much better than the other 2.
I know I will be praying for a Gary Johnson presidency. Hopefully others will join. 🙂
 
Here is a video clip of what Rudy Guiliani had to say regarding these individuals:

twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/762972393262292992

Except:

“I believe it makes Donald Trump’s candidacy really clear: he’s running against the Washington insiders, you just heard from all the Washington insiders. These are all the people that have run policy for the last 8, 10, 12 years and the American people have delivered a judgement on that. They say American is headed in the wrong direction. These are the people who headed it in the wrong direction.”
 
He is by no means the perfect candidate, but I think he’s still much better than the other 2.
I know I will be praying for a Gary Johnson presidency. Hopefully others will join. 🙂
I looked him up. While I’ve always wondered if there’s a place for me in a third party, I just have a hard time being attracted to Libertarian ideals.
 
Al Moritz;14098586:
Abortion will not be ended at the federal level. There are estimates that abortion would be lowered by a mere 6 % if Roe v. Wade were overturned, because of all the state laws that would remain in place.

If one is pro-life, trying to influence the legal system is an utterly inefficient, dead-end way of improving things. We have to work on the root causes of abortion.
It sort of seems counter productive then to me to trust the fate of the unborn to Trump.😊

Doesn’t he have a collection of thousands of letters by happy and satisfied Planned Parenthood patients?

Currently there are 3 conservative justices in regards to abortion (Alito, Roberts and Thomas) They are pretty young in regards to judges, all younger than 70.

The older judges (Ginsburg, Breyer, and Kennedy) tend to go liberal.

Those are the ones that will be replaced probably sooner. Bryer being the youngest at 78.

Hillary’s choices would keep the status quo. Not make it necessarily worse.

Currently, Scalia needs to be replaced.

He will probably be the main shift in the supreme court.

And I also would like to remind everyone, Roe v Wade was decided by a largely republican appointed Supreme court.

There were two judges that voted against it.

Rehnquist appointed by Nixon.

and White appointed by JFK.
 
It sort of seems counter productive then to me to trust the fate of the unborn to Trump.😊

Doesn’t he have a collection of thousands of letters by happy and satisfied Planned Parenthood patients?

Currently there are 3 conservative justices in regards to abortion (Alito, Roberts and Thomas) They are pretty young in regards to judges, all younger than 70.

The older judges (Ginsburg, Breyer, and Kennedy) tend to go liberal.

Those are the ones that will be replaced probably sooner. Bryer being the youngest at 78.

Hillary’s choices would keep the status quo. Not make it necessarily worse.

Currently, Scalia needs to be replaced.

He will probably be the main shift in the supreme court.

And I also would like to remind everyone, Roe v Wade was decided by a largely republican appointed Supreme court.

There were two judges that voted against it.

Rehnquist appointed by Nixon.

and White appointed by JFK.
I understand,however,honestly,HC is just that awful and I just cannot fathom the thought of her in the WH. We all have a lot of praying to do in the next few months!
 
So, it’s up to me as a registered Republican, at this time, to decide if I’m for the Republican Party or for the person who can help our country the most. Am I tied to the Republican Party? Click it or die? Or do I look at the candidate and decide?

Me? I see the establishment Republicans are just like establishment Democrats–don’t mess with the status quo. But, guys, the status quo isn’t taking us anywhere except dividing us into little factions… IMHO
 
I guess my question would be “why value Mr. Giuliani’s assessment over that of 50 others?” I guess we could say that everyone who has devoted their lives to public service is crooked (which would also implicate Mr. Guiliani) or that living or working in Washington DC somehow necessarily makes one crooked (which would be a strange claim indeed).

Further, it’s not clear that the American people have reached the same conclusion Mr. Guiliani has. Isn’t Mr. Trump way down in the polls (despite one or two outliers) and continuing to drop? How are Mr. Trump’s numbers plus two terms of Mr. Bush, two terms of Mr. Obama, and a (statistically) very likely win for Ms. Clinton a repudiation of the work of these 50 experts?
 
And I also would like to remind everyone, Roe v Wade was decided by a largely republican appointed Supreme court.

There were two judges that voted against it.

Rehnquist appointed by Nixon.

and White appointed by JFK.
And Casey vs. Planned Parenthood, which reaffirmed the central holding of Roe v. Wade, was decided in favor by five Justices which all were Republican appointed.

See:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_v._Casey

Click the names in the right hand column for checking the presidential appointments. The dissenters were three other Republican appointed justices and one appointee by JFK (White).
 
That is exactly what is going to give Clinton the edge in November, lack of unity in the Republican Party. Is Donald Trump the ideal candidate, no, but he is certainly better than Clinton or anyone the Democrats can put up. Republicans not rallying around Trump will be committing political suicide. If Clinton should get elected, the Republicans will be scratching their heads and trying to figure out what went wrong. Remember the old adage, “United we stand, Divided we fall”, and that is what will happen if the Republicans can’t get their act together. It will be their own fault. I for one, will be voting for Trump. We have to keep Clinton OUT of the White House. She will destroy this country.
The republicans are committing suicide and are just fine with losing. That’s all they know how to do. Voters don’t matter to them
 
it’s the status quo isn’t taking us anywhere except dividing us into little factions…
But, an acceptable alternative to the status quo has not yet been offered. I’m more comfortable with consistency, whether I like it or not, than to diving into the relative but almost certain unknown that comes from the candidate touting the credentials of an outsider…it is far too dangerous in this day and age.
 
Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All
newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

“The Art of the Deal” made America see Trump as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business. Tony Schwartz helped create that myth—and regrets it…

…“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”
 
Absolutely!He is a convienent target.Lest those naysayers forget,he beat out 16 other "establishment " candidates.He is a reaction to the same old same old.Theybare now licking their wounds and doing everything in their power to create continued chaos and disunity within the party. It is going to backfire big time,IMO
IN ADDITION, in two previous presidential elections, the Republicans put forth two candidates who were the weakest imaginable. And they lost.

McCain and Romney.
 
IN ADDITION, in two previous presidential elections, the Republicans put forth two candidates who were the weakest imaginable. And they lost.

McCain and Romney.
Just heard an interesting theory on my local conservative radio program.Here in Colo. we have our Republican reps coming out against Trump.The thought is,as more and more of this occurs around the nation,it may very well benefitvTrump re his voting base.Since he is not the same old same old. Will be interesting…
 
Clinton scores major GOP donor from Trump

Hillary Clinton on Tuesday added another name to the rapidly growing list of major Republican donors she has taken away from GOP nominee Donald Trump – former MGM CEO Harry Sloan.

Sloan is a mainstay of Republican fundraising, having served on national finance committees for John McCain and Mitt Romney. As the 2016 election got underway, he signed on with John Kasich.

But in a statement, Sloan said he could not support Trump, who he contended, “does not embody the values that have made me a lifelong Republican. He is unprepared and temperamentally unfit to be our President. Most of my Republican friends feel the same way. As a businessman, a father, and a conservative it is clear to me that Hillary Clinton is the right choice in this election."

Sloan, who serves on the board of trustees of the McCain Institute, a think tank founded by Arizona Sen. John McCain, adds that “if we had a different Republican presidential candidate this year, I would likely be proudly supporting them."

Sloan’s support for the Democratic nominee isn’t entirely new. On June 30, he cut a $33,400 check to a Clinton joint fundraising account, according to federal campaign finance records.

In recent days, a number of high-profile Republicans have announced their support for Clinton. Last week, billionaire Silicon Valley executive Meg Whitman, who ran for California governor in 2010, revealed that she would be helping the former secretary of state.
 
In my opinion, there is not a good reason to vote for Donald. There is, however, a good reason to vote against Hillary.
 
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