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zz912 said:
REALLY?!?! That is what gets the Catholic League upset? A tweet from 5 years ago, that basically sums up EVERY Protestant’s belief about the Catholic Church? Sure it was snide, but the point was that she doesn’t believe the CC was started by Jesus.

So. Does. EVERY. Protestant.

In this election cycle, when there is so much blatant anti-Christian behavior and policies, and they focus on THAT?!?!
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Kind of ironic–in a thread in which there is so much more to talk about, and you focus on THIS?

Or, we can say with a more reasoned voice: we are big enough to talk about LOTS of issues.
 
zz912 said:
REALLY?!?! That is what gets the Catholic League upset? A tweet from 5 years ago, that basically sums up EVERY Protestant’s belief about the Catholic Church? Sure it was snide, but the point was that she doesn’t believe the CC was started by Jesus.

So. Does. EVERY. Protestant.
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Emm…not quite.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=7198660&postcount=20

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10244316&postcount=105

I daresay that most level-headed Protestants would acknowledge that Jesus founded the Catholic Church–they just believe the CC veered off course.

It’s the virulent anti-Catholic fundamentalists who assert what Trump’s spokesperson asserted.
 
Ridgerunner said:
So, for me, there’s no choice to this but Trump. If Abp Chaput feels there is no moral difference between the candidates, that’s his to judge for himself, and perhaps he’s right. But for me, it’s a more practical matter affecting whether my children and grandchildren live under the rule of law or that of executive fiat backed by a radical judiciary.
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I stand with you on this issue. 👍
 
JW55 said:
We are really at the crossroads in this election. As wild as some of the things that Trump says, they come no where near matching the absurdity, immoral and despicable positons proposed by the opposition. For the sake of our country we have to step up and put a stop to what is happening to our country.
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👍 👍 👍 Give Mr. Trump a chance. We gave Mr. Obama 2!!!
 
PRmerger said:
Emm…not quite.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=7198660&postcount=20

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10244316&postcount=105

I daresay that most level-headed Protestants would acknowledge that Jesus founded the Catholic Church–they just believe the CC veered off course.

It’s the virulent anti-Catholic fundamentalists who assert what Trump’s spokesperson asserted.
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And why tweet it for the world to see? She wasn’t having a private conversation.
 
PRmerger said:
In sharp contrast to Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Trump has no experience on national security. Even more important, the character traits he has exhibited during the primary season suggest he would be a poor, even dangerous, commander in chief.
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Oh my.

Whatever the cited NYT writer is drinking is to be avoided at all costs.

Yes, Hillary Clinton has experience in national security. She turned Libya over to terrorists and then laughed hilariously over Khaddaffi’s torture-death, for which she took macabre “credit”. She implemented turning Iraq over to the war between Sunni radicals and Iran that everybody, including the CIA chief, the Kurds, the Sunni tribal leaders and the majority of Shia predicted and begged us not to leave them to. She ran guns to terrorists in Syria, getting our ambassador killed in the process. She was instrumental in turning Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood, the father of Al Quaeda and ISIS. She presented Russian officials with the silly button she thought said “reset” but which actually said “overcharge” in Russian.

Heavens! If she can’t even find a Russian translator who actually knows Russian, how is she to be trusted in bigger things?

And on top of that, every foreign leader on earth knows she can be bought with money, because they have been buying her for years.

No, I think we have had enough of her lost wars, corruption, and aids to terrorists. Such “experience” should be shelved forever. Perhaps her foreign experience qualifies her for a teaching position at some left wing university somewhere, but not to be president of the United States.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Oh my.

Whatever the cited NYT writer is drinking is to be avoided at all costs.

Yes, Hillary Clinton has experience in national security. She turned Libya over to terrorists and then laughed hilariously over Khaddaffi’s torture-death, for which she took macabre “credit”. She implemented turning Iraq over to the war between Sunni radicals and Iran that everybody, including the CIA chief, the Kurds, the Sunni tribal leaders and the majority of Shia predicted and begged us not to leave them to. She ran guns to terrorists in Syria, getting our ambassador killed in the process. She was instrumental in turning Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood, the father of Al Quaeda and ISIS. She presented Russian officials with the silly button she thought said “reset” but which actually said “overcharge” in Russian.

Heavens! If she can’t even find a Russian translator who actually knows Russian, how is she to be trusted in bigger things?

And on top of that, every foreign leader on earth knows she can be bought with money, because they have been buying her for years.

No, I think we have had enough of her lost wars, corruption, and aids to terrorists. Such “experience” should be shelved forever. Perhaps her foreign experience qualifies her for a teaching position at some left wing university somewhere, but not to be president of the United States.
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I can’t vote for Clinton and I won’t stomach voting for Trump.

I’ve read and re-read the bishops statement and I am following my conscience.

I simply don’t trust Trump’s stance on abortion. He praises PP, then says he’d jail women? It makes no sense. He was pro-choice up until last year, and now, he’s supposedly pro-life, but it’s okay in some cases? The guy changes his mind so often on abortion that it’s like watching a squirrel look for nuts. He has no clue where he stands. I really do wish that Trump would go away, but that will never happen. Even if he loses (which is likely) he will make his own tv channel or be a political commentator. Glad my family doesn’t have satellite or cable.

I’m voting for the independent, Evan McMullin. He’s pro-life; no apologies. I’m done with the Republicans. Trump has ruined their party.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
The article quoted was an Op Ed by a former CIA director who worked under multiple administrations.
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:eek::eek::eek:

He also said: “I spent four years working with Mrs. Clinton when she was secretary of state, most often in the White House Situation Room.”

Wonder if he laughed at Kahaddaffi’s death along with her. 🤷
 
Catholic_farmer said:
I can’t vote for Clinton and I won’t stomach voting for Trump.

I’ve read and re-read the bishops statement and I am following my conscience.

I simply don’t trust Trump’s stance on abortion. He praises PP, then says he’d jail women? It makes no sense. He was pro-choice up until last year, and now, he’s supposedly pro-life, but it’s okay in some cases? The guy changes his mind so often on abortion that it’s like watching a squirrel look for nuts. He has no clue where he stands.

I’m voting for the independent, Evan McMullin. He’s pro-life; no apologies. I’m done with the Republicans. Trump has ruined their party.
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I agree with you on all points.
 
PRmerger said:
He is not “better than Hillary”.

The thought of him having access to our nuclear weapons arsenal is chilling. Absolutely chilling.
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I suppose the thought of Hillary having access to our nuclear weapons is a non-issue and not “chilling” because she would immediately sell that access to the highest donor to the Clinton Foundation.

That would mean…gulp…that with his money, Trump could still buy access even if Hillary wins.

You didn’t think of that, did you, PR?

You are welcome :tiphat:
 
Joie_de_Vivre said:
And who is that, Alex Jones? Tyler Durden? Von Mises people?
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Actually, I kind of like this guy:

tarekfatah.com

He is a journalist and talk show host (though not “mainstream”) AND he is Muslim.

He gives reasoned and thoughtful analysis on questions regarding Islam that the mainstream media simply ignores or dismisses.

And, hey, what do you know? He happens to endorse Trump over Clinton. :eek:

youtu.be/leXvvk7inw0

That certainly runs counter to your storyline, doesn’t it?

Why wasn’t he on your list of possible candidates, above?

I suppose you have never heard of him.

Let me guess…

Your first instinct after reading this will be to go out and dig up the dirt on Fatah to discredit and dismiss him, yes?

The extent to which you cannot resist that urge is the extent to which liberal progressivism has infected your brain AND the extent to which you operate according to the belief that rhetoric beats dialectic – fallacious thinking as in the naturalistic fallacy has more compelling force for you than reason and logical argumentation.

But, hey don’t let me stop you.

What did you find on Fatah?
 
“The departure also comes as Manafort is defending himself from investigations into his extensive lobbying history overseas, particularly in the Ukraine, where he represented pro-Russian interests. Manafort has been beating back reports from multiple media outlets in recent days over his ethics, which have been egged on by a Clinton campaign eager to highlight Trump’s ties to the Kremlin.”

There was no mention in the Republican Platform of supporting the people of the Ukraine. There were those in the party that wanted to include support for the Ukrainian people but were not able to. Now come to find out that Paul Manafort has extensive lobbying history and had represented Russian interests in the Ukraine. Gee, I wonder any coincidence that the plank on support for the people of the Ukraine was removed from the party platform. What makes this whole matter especially dubious is that immediately following the Republican Convention it is believed the Russians hacked the Democratic National Convention and released the emails indicating that the DNC was favoring Hillary over Bernie Sanders.

Russia is clearly interfering in our presidential election. I am still going to vote for Trump but this whole matter with Paul Manafort and the Russians is disturbing.
 
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