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oneofmany said:
And the Democrats put up the most crooked person to run for president. Pay for play and letting national secrets get hijacked by other countries putting all of us at risk.
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More and more revelations about Secretary of State selling American uranium strategic assets to Russia, so Russia now controls it.

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Millie123 said:
Im sorry, but when you take the bulk of my concerns of the massive environmental impact, costs, manpower, resources and logistics of building a massive 1000 mile x 30 foot wall down the the entire southern border of the US with Mexico…your argument of looking at the length of the wall per capita with Israel does nothing to appease my concerns about this project. Ive seen many people here use the argument of looking at it in relation to Israel. From my perspective, looking at the 2 projects side by side together, between the 44 miles of concrete wall (396 miles of barbed wire fence) Israel has built and 1000 miles of concrete wall in the US that Donald Trump wants to build, the two projects have very little in common. Looking at it from your perspective of per capita, does nothing to make this project more logical to me. In fact the more I write about it and look into it, the more that Im convinced that its an amateurish idea and colossal waste of money.
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A concrete wall is a concrete wall.

Stops everything.

Tilt-up concrete slabs.

Easy peasy.

Fast.

A fence is a fence.

Doesn’t stop anything; merely marks the line.

Especially when the Border Patrol has been ordered to stand down and do nothing.
 
Sy_Noe said:
…nothing has been proven when it comes to these Hillary side stories. The last email investigation ended with no prosecutor in their right mind would press criminal charges. The Clinton Foundation has done good things. And I forget how many Benghazi hearings and hours of Benghazi hearings the nation went through. Enough already.
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Sadly, it was Hillary who put herself in this predicament. Thus the reason this Presidential race is as tight as it is.
 
Hillary Clinton takes aim at Donald Trump’s ties to ‘alt right’ world of radical conservative

No major presidential nominee in recent history has been as openly adored by white nationalists, neo-Nazis and other right-wing extremists as Donald Trump, and on Thursday, Hillary Clinton will make the case that he should be held accountable for their embrace.

In a speech in Reno, Clinton will seek to define the insurgent breed of ideology that has fueled Trump’s rise as a dangerous cancer on the nation’s political discourse. She is taking aim at the so-called alt-right movement, a loosely defined and relatively new network of anti-establishment activists on the right that extends from mere outside-the-box protectionist thinkers to flagrantly racist and anti-Semitic hatemongers.

Trump’s alliance with the alt-right crowd is as nebulous as the movement itself. Its most extreme factions have no affiliation with the campaign, even as they praise Trump’s agenda and compare him favorably with Adolf Hitler. The more mainstream elements — including those demanding the deportation of immigrants in the U.S. illegally, an end to free-trade agreements, and the repudiation of Wall Street — are the lifeblood of the Trump campaign, amplifying its message on social media and driving turnout at his rallies.

But certain actions Trump has taken during the course of the campaign have been cheered by the more racist corners of the alt-right, and Trump’s disavowal of them has been tepid. And Trump has given Clinton an opening to tar him with some of the more extreme elements of the movement by recruiting Stephen K. Bannon, who formerly ran Breitbart News, to help run his campaign. The media organization is the closest thing there is to a voice of the alt-right, even if what it publishes is far tamer than the screeds and memes adherents to the Internet-driven movement regularly post on Reddit and 4chan. Read more: latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-clinton-alt-right-20160825-snap-story.html
 
Good_Tidings said:
Hillary Clinton takes aim at Donald Trump’s ties to ‘alt right’ world of radical conservative

No major presidential nominee in recent history has been as openly adored by white nationalists, neo-Nazis and other right-wing extremists as Donald Trump, and on Thursday, Hillary Clinton will make the case that he should be held accountable for their embrace.

In a speech in Reno, Clinton will seek to define the insurgent breed of ideology that has fueled Trump’s rise as a dangerous cancer on the nation’s political discourse. She is taking aim at the so-called alt-right movement, a loosely defined and relatively new network of anti-establishment activists on the right that extends from mere outside-the-box protectionist thinkers to flagrantly racist and anti-Semitic hatemongers.

Trump’s alliance with the alt-right crowd is as nebulous as the movement itself. Its most extreme factions have no affiliation with the campaign, even as they praise Trump’s agenda and compare him favorably with Adolf Hitler. The more mainstream elements — including those demanding the deportation of immigrants in the U.S. illegally, an end to free-trade agreements, and the repudiation of Wall Street — are the lifeblood of the Trump campaign, amplifying its message on social media and driving turnout at his rallies.

But certain actions Trump has taken during the course of the campaign have been cheered by the more racist corners of the alt-right, and Trump’s disavowal of them has been tepid. And Trump has given Clinton an opening to tar him with some of the more extreme elements of the movement by recruiting Stephen K. Bannon, who formerly ran Breitbart News, to help run his campaign. The media organization is the closest thing there is to a voice of the alt-right, even if what it publishes is far tamer than the screeds and memes adherents to the Internet-driven movement regularly post on Reddit and 4chan. Read more: latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-clinton-alt-right-20160825-snap-story.html
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But is he a card-carrying member of the Illuminati? Perhaps he’s keeping Hitler alive in the mountains of Peru on life support in order to harvest his DNA? :rolleyes:

The Clinton machine eructations are sometimes surprising, but not very.
 
Ridgerunner said:
But is he a card-carrying member of the Illuminati? Perhaps he’s keeping Hitler alive in the mountains of Peru on life support in order to harvest his DNA? :rolleyes:

The Clinton machine eructations are sometimes surprising, but not very.
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Didn’t they make a movie … “The Boys from Brazil”?
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Actually, it is 89% to charitable work. This will explain your misunderstanding.
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The FactCheck article didn’t actually explain anything, it whitewashed “misunderstandings” with suppositions without investigating what really takes place in the organization.

The Clinton Cash documentary does a far better job checking facts than FactCheck which isn’t living up to its name.
 
Sy_Noe said:
The Clinton Foundation has done good things.
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Can you name a few (or one even) and provide documented proof that what was purported to have been done actually was?

I mean besides providing expedient access to politicians and diplomats in exchange for donations of several million and payments of up to $700 000 a speech by one of the Clintons.

Can you explain why Bill’s fee for speaking at an event went from $200 000 to $700 000 after Hillary became (Secret)ary of State?
 
Good_Tidings said:
Hillary Clinton takes aim at Donald Trump’s ties to ‘alt right’ world of radical conservative

No major presidential nominee in recent history has been as openly adored by white nationalists, neo-Nazis and other right-wing extremists as Donald Trump, and on Thursday, Hillary Clinton will make the case that he should be held accountable for their embrace.

In a speech in Reno, Clinton will seek to define the insurgent breed of ideology that has fueled Trump’s rise as a dangerous cancer on the nation’s political discourse. She is taking aim at the so-called alt-right movement, a loosely defined and relatively new network of anti-establishment activists on the right that extends from mere outside-the-box protectionist thinkers to flagrantly racist and anti-Semitic hatemongers.

Trump’s alliance with the alt-right crowd is as nebulous as the movement itself. Its most extreme factions have no affiliation with the campaign, even as they praise Trump’s agenda and compare him favorably with Adolf Hitler. The more mainstream elements — including those demanding the deportation of immigrants in the U.S. illegally, an end to free-trade agreements, and the repudiation of Wall Street — are the lifeblood of the Trump campaign, amplifying its message on social media and driving turnout at his rallies.

But certain actions Trump has taken during the course of the campaign have been cheered by the more racist corners of the alt-right, and Trump’s disavowal of them has been tepid. And Trump has given Clinton an opening to tar him with some of the more extreme elements of the movement by recruiting Stephen K. Bannon, who formerly ran Breitbart News, to help run his campaign. The media organization is the closest thing there is to a voice of the alt-right, even if what it publishes is far tamer than the screeds and memes adherents to the Internet-driven movement regularly post on Reddit and 4chan. Read more: latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-clinton-alt-right-20160825-snap-story.html
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To counterbalance that skewed article, I suggest this one on why the alt-right isn’t wrong:

spectator.co.uk/2016/07/why-the-alt-right-isnt-wrong/
 
Peter_Plato said:
The FactCheck article didn’t actually explain anything, it whitewashed “misunderstandings” with suppositions without investigating what really takes place in the organization.

The Clinton Cash documentary does a far better job checking facts than FactCheck which isn’t living up to its name.
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Clinton Cash. Is that the one in comic book format?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Didn’t they make a movie … “The Boys from Brazil”?
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They got it wrong, though, and the DNC has gotten it straightened out. It’s really “The Boys from Peru”. They also figured out that it’s all a big plot involving the KKK, the Club of Rome, the Masons, the Illuminati, the International Jewish Conspiracy, the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, and, of course, the Vatican. Oh yes, and the Bilderberg group.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Peter_Plato said:
To counterbalance that skewed article, I suggest this one on why the alt-right isn’t wrong:

spectator.co.uk/2016/07/why-the-alt-right-isnt-wrong/
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From that article:
Part of me feels uncomfortable defending the alt-right because it has been associated with anti-Semitism and racism. Yes, most of this stuff is confected and insincere — just mischievous internet kids experimenting with irony, knowing that if there’s one way absolutely guaranteed to rile the grown-ups it’s a hideously tasteless Holocaust joke. But undeniably for some of the alt-right’s more extreme exponents, it’s a sincere expression of their philosophical core.
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He just brushed off the actual antisemitic and racist trash that appears on the internet as mischievous internet kids. I guess he can believe what he wants. I don’t agree with him. I think these things are trash, and should not be condoned, tweeted to others or accepted as harmless kids.

Incredible.

Especially in regards to Jewish journalist who have been targeted as recipients of this trash.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=1014976
 
Monte_RCMS said:
A concrete wall is a concrete wall.

Stops everything.

Tilt-up concrete slabs.

Easy peasy.

Fast.

A fence is a fence.

Doesn’t stop anything; merely marks the line.

Especially when the Border Patrol has been ordered to stand down and do nothing.
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This is flawed logic, a concrete wall is not just a concrete wall. In fact there are a several different types of concrete walls. Quite frankly I’m sick and tired of having my tax dollars being fleeced on frivolous government projects. Being how he has made this project a centerpiece in this campaign, you’re going to have to win me over with specifics about this project, because quite frankly his charming personality isn’t winning me over. This project is going to have go through immense hurdles to bring it to fruition. How is he going to obtain all of this land? The wall is going to be running through Indian tribal reservations, how is he going to obtain that land? He’s also going to running his wall through privately own farmland, what about the farmers. Not to mention that this wall is going to be running through numerous floodplains…so you can’t just build a simple 30 foot concrete slab and prop it up…that would be a fools way of doing things because it could lead to widespread flooding and an environmental disaster.
 
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