Trump Uses Mount Rushmore Speech to Deliver Divisive Culture War Message

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There are videos of protesters who are peaceful but far many more videos of protesters who are not peaceful. It is not peaceful to block roadways. It is not peaceful to set police cars on fire. It is not peaceful to tear down statues. You can’t make rioters into peaceful protesters.
 
You are missing the point that the division come from opinions like yours. Who attack when ever they can without any substances.
This thread was about Trump’s speech and his rhetoric. Saying that someone critical of his speech is the one causing divisiveness is just wildly inaccurate.
 
A great speech, hardly divisive:
You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.

" WASHINGTON — Standing in a packed amphitheater in front of Mount Rushmore for an Independence Day celebration, President Trump delivered a dark and divisive speech on Friday that cast his struggling effort to win a second term as a battle against a “new far-left fascism” seeking to wipe out the nation’s values and history…

“Most presidents in history have understood that when they appear at a national monument, it’s usually a moment to act as a unifying chief of state, not a partisan divider,” Michael Beschloss, the presidential historian, said before the speech."

When did Trump say ‘Let’s all get together and solve our disagreements’?
 
A great speech, hardly divisive:
Perhaps you missed these divisive parts:
Trump:
Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children.
There is no doubt in anyone’s minds who he is talking about there. He is dividing the county according to their beliefs about confederate statues.
Trump:
One of their political weapons is “Cancel Culture” — driving people from their jobs, shaming dissenters, and demanding total submission from anyone who disagrees. This is the very definition of totalitarianism, and it is completely alien to our culture and our values, and it has absolutely no place in the United States of America. This attack on our liberty, our magnificent liberty, must be stopped, and it will be stopped very quickly. We will expose this dangerous movement, protect our nation’s children, end this radical assault, and preserve our beloved American way of life.
Likewise, he is again attacking his political enemies.
Trump:
In our schools, our newsrooms, even our corporate boardrooms, there is a new far-left fascism that demands absolute allegiance.
Now we see that attack on the news media and demonizing mention of the very political term “left”.
Trump:
Make no mistake: this left-wing cultural revolution is designed to overthrow the American Revolution.
Now Trump even dropped the qualifier of “far” on “left”. Apparently the whole left wing is now the enemy. Is there any doubt yet that this meant to divide people?
Trump:
To make this possible, they are determined to tear down every statue, symbol, and memory of our national heritage. That is why I am deploying federal law enforcement to protect our monuments, arrest the rioters, and prosecute offenders to the fullest extent of the law.
Now we see overt attack on the political movement against certain statues. More politics. Apparently the audience gets it. At this point they burst into chants:
audience:
Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!
See? Even the audience present there sees it as a re-election campaign, in case anyone still has any doubts.
Trump:
The violent mayhem we have seen in the streets of cities that are run by liberal Democrats, in every case, is the predictable result of years of extreme indoctrination and bias in education, journalism, and other cultural institutions.
OK, now he denigrates Democrats, and renews his attack on the media and the educational institutions to boot.

So it is clear that Trump did, as he always does, politicizing every event he holds, even the celebration of the National Birthday of July 4th.
 
Maybe President Trump is reacting to a few things that are going on at the moment. Terrible things. Destructive things. UnAmerican things. And perhaps he is being brave enough to identify exactly where these terrible and destructive unAmerican things derive from.

You cannot unify with destructive insanity. For the good of the country you cannot do that.

Bravo Mr President.

 
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Maybe President Trump is reacting to a few things that are going on at the moment. Terrible things. UnAmerican things. And perhaps he is being brave enough to identify exactly where these horrible unAmerican things derive from.
Those “things” going on are political beliefs he (and more importantly, his loyal base) do not like. To decry those things in front of an adoring mob is not sign of bravery. But whether it is bravery or not, the “things” that Trump is reacting to are political beliefs that a large part of nation shares. His talk had the effecting of dividing his followers (the “good” people) from those “bad” people of the opposing political ideology. It is the textbook definition of divisive.
 
The two authors of the Fascist Manifesto were committed socialists and they told us exactly why they wrote their manifesto.
And yet, Italian Fascism was politically right wing and nationalistic.

So, there’s that. I think you’re swimming upstream on this.
 
What? I think you’re in the wrong century.
Well, that’s true. What is also true is that the putative Democrat candidate for president has put AOC in charge of his climate/energy policy, and as you said: she is far left.
I hope you know that these are not the traitors and that I wasn’t referring to them. It’s possible to makes ones points without turning to wild exaggeration.
You may claim to discriminate between statues which the mobs should pull down and those they shouldn’t, but the Democrat leaders have not. They have in fact not condemned the attacks on the statues I mentioned. If @pattylt is typical of the left then that’s the difference between the left and the far left, and why I said the leadership of her party is, at least in the culture war, far left.
 
And yet, Italian Fascism was politically right wing and nationalistic.
There is left wing nationalism and right wing nationalism.

Saying Italian Fascism was right wing is an assertion and needs your explanation.

The manifesto was left wing. The politics were left wing. Certainly in terms of the big state taking the place of religion and being the main national power dominating church and industry in the name of progressiveness and equality, the politics followed the left wing manifesto.

Mussolini in his administration at one point bragged that 65% of industry was under the control of the state. I don’t think even Bernie Sanders has stated that goal, at least publicly.
 
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Those “things” going on are political beliefs he (and more importantly, his loyal base) do not like. To decry those things in front of an adoring mob is not sign of bravery. But whether it is bravery or not, the “things” that Trump is reacting to are political beliefs that a large part of nation shares. His talk had the effecting of dividing his followers (the “good” people) from those “bad” people of the opposing political ideology. It is the textbook definition of divisive.
Deaths and bashings and lootings and burnings and harassment and statue destruction and self declared autonomous zones are more than beliefs.

They are terrible actions based on terrible beliefs.

The fact that elected officials lie down and enable these terrible things are a weakness and abdication of responsibility.

There needs to be brave leadership to call it as it is. This is what President Trump did on the 4th of July.

What better day to show leadership against destructive and unAmerican actions based on bad beliefs?
 
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This thread was about Trump’s speech and his rhetoric. Saying that someone critical of his speech is the one causing divisiveness is just wildly inaccurate.
Saying his speech was divisive because it is critical is “wildly inaccurate” Have you ever heard the saying the pot calling the kettle black? Is it really about his speech? Did you hear his speech? Did you read it? Or is this really about what others opinions of his speech? This thread was really about opinion.
 
Note: JonNC was unable to come up with a single instance of any of these Presidents so terribly politicizing non-political events.
You want me to research events to disprove your ridiculous but not surprising charge?
Please. It is obvious that yours is just another complaint about bad orange man.
But just as an example, President Obama’s politicizing the shooting in Roseburg, Oregon said this:
“… somebody, somewhere will comment and say, Obama politicized this issue. Well, this is something we should politicize. It is relevant to our common life together, to the body politic."
I think it is quite appropriate to politicize the current attack on American culture by those who are opposed to it, just like Obama felt this should be politicized. Their attack on our culture, the Emancipation Monument Of all things, statues of Lincoln, Jefferson, Grant, and Washington.
This has nothing to do with George Floyd. Trump is spot on about who these people are.
We are talking about the President. Not the Democratic Party. No President - Democratic or Republican - has ever so badly politicized non-political events like the 4th of July.
Prove it.
 
Trump is only partially correct. The far-left extremists, bereft of reason, are moving the country toward a strange kind of totalitarianism. But so is the socially conservative and unfailingly rigid far right. Both groups are destroying people’s individual rights although they ostensibly have very different agendas. We desperately need a viable alternative, headed by a leader who can capture the people’s imagination, perhaps a Libertarian party.
 
Maybe President Trump is reacting to a few things that are going on at the moment.
He’s the president, for the love of God, not a petulant teenager! When will he act for the good of the country instead of soothing his hurt feelings?
 
There is left wing nationalism and right wing nationalism.
I’m no political scientist but I think you are wrong.
Saying his speech was divisive because it is critical is “wildly inaccurate” Have you ever heard the saying the pot calling the kettle black? Is it really about his speech? Did you hear his speech? Did you read it? Or is this really about what others opinions of his speech? This thread was really about opinion.
No, saying the thread was divisive is a reasonable review of it. Show me where he was calling on all Americans to solve their differences and come together. I read his speech. In a time in which we need to stress unity and calm some of the divisiveness, Trump made it worse. So sad.
 
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I’m no political scientist but I think you are wrong.
Catalonia nationalist party is left wing.
Now defunct Basque Nationalists were left wing. (Merged with socialist Party)
Scottish Nationalist Party are left wing.
Northern Irish nationalist Social Democratic Labour Party is Left wing.
Irish nationalist Party Sinn Fein is left wing.
Arab Nationalists PLO, Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood are left wing and have had Left wing European and American parties as vocal allies.

The Cuban socialists were nationalistic as were the Vietnamese, Sri Lankan and Cambodian socialists.

Many of the African nationalist movements that fought against European colonialism last century were left wing.

There are also claims that the old USSR was nationalistic with its policy of starving Ukrainian peasants.

There are also claims of the People’s Republic of China being nationalistic with the invasion of Tibet and the forced migration of Han Chinese into the area.

There is also the claim that China is nationalistic with the internment and population control of the Muslim Uygher population.

There is also the claim of nationalism of the North Koreans who fought to unify the Korean peninsula and who are still technically at war.
 
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