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PaulinVA
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We’ve already are having the discussion about this.
His speech was a defense of racist America and it’s institutions without any acknowledgement that they are rightly being scrutinized and called for what they are.
Trump Uses Mount Rushmore Speech to Deliver Divisive Culture War Message
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His speech was a defense of racist America and it’s institutions without any acknowledgement that they are rightly being scrutinized and called for what they are.
Yes. History and institutions seem to be a real stumbling block for the left.
That is factually untrue and an indefensible slander against hundreds of millions of Americans.
America is not a racist country. It’s institutions are not racist. In fact, the broad accusation that they are is a racist accusation.
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Nepperhan
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At a time when the nation is seeking reconciliation, Trump provides exactly what we don’t need:
" President Trump mounted an explicit defense of the Confederate flag on Monday, suggesting that NASCAR had made a mistake in banning it from its auto racing events, while falsely accusing a top Black driver, Bubba Wallace, of perpetrating a hoax involving a noose found in his garage.
Mr. Trump’s reference to the Confederate flag, and its role in a sport whose mostly white fans Mr. Trump remains popular with, was the latest remark by the president focused on culture wars as he tries to rally his culturally conservative base behind his struggling re-election effort."
www.nytimes.com
" President Trump mounted an explicit defense of the Confederate flag on Monday, suggesting that NASCAR had made a mistake in banning it from its auto racing events, while falsely accusing a top Black driver, Bubba Wallace, of perpetrating a hoax involving a noose found in his garage.
Mr. Trump’s reference to the Confederate flag, and its role in a sport whose mostly white fans Mr. Trump remains popular with, was the latest remark by the president focused on culture wars as he tries to rally his culturally conservative base behind his struggling re-election effort."
Trump Adds to Playbook of Stoking White Fear and Resentment (Published 2020)
With a defense of Confederate flags and a false accusation against a Black NASCAR driver, Bubba Wallace, President Trump is focusing on racial and cultural flash points to appeal to his base.
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Ender
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My how we get all bent out of shape over the way criminals are referred to, but given the preponderance of white thugs among the rioters it’s not clear why anyone would assume it referred specifically to blacks. Then again, I’m not up on who chooses to be offended by what. This is the kind of invented outrage that has become so common.
That you introduce the qualifier “confederate” when talking about the destruction of statues shows both that you recognize the real issue even as you want it ignored. The concern is not “merely” with the removal of confederate statues; it is much deeper than that. What we are seeing is an attack on virtually all (they left Lenin alone) statues that celebrate our past. Nor is the destruction solely the work of hordes of thuggish, overgrown delinquents. Mayors are getting into the act, fostering the same goal by directing work crews to remove major city statues, like Kit Carson in Denver, and Christopher Columbus in…Columbus, OH.
It is either deception or wishful thinking to hold that our history and culture are not under attack.
This assumes his observation that there is an “attack on our liberty” that “is completely alien to our culture and our values” is wrong. The actions we have witnessed suggest his claim is accurate. The people most opposed to Trump are those who correctly recognize him as the strongest force opposed to their objectives. The “unification” they seek is in surrender, which is why his confrontational approach is so upsetting…to the left anyway.
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Ender
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Someone else brought up this duality between far left and far right but failed to identify what constitutes the far right. Can you indicate some positions you consider to be far right as opposed to merely right?
Only in the Democrat lexicon. They seem to be very familiar with how to use it that way.
Unsurprising to see a race-based accusation coming from the NYT.
It seems that would be an extreme lack of government- ultra-libertarian to anarchist.
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Nepperhan
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Is the accusation (really a description) accurate or not? Or do you stand on just criticizing who the speaker is?
Where is the accusation here? " Mr. Trump’s reference to the Confederate flag, and its role in a sport whose mostly white fans Mr. Trump remains popular with, was the latest remark by the president focused on culture wars as he tries to rally his culturally conservative base behind his struggling re-election effort."
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Nepperhan
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What does “young buck on welfare eating T-bone steaks” conjure up in your mind?
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PaulinVA
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Were they?
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Nepperhan
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No, the term ‘buck’ has a different connotation in the southern venue where it was uttered.
Oh, it clearly isn’t.
On two fronts: 1) it frames NASCAR in the implication it is racist. That assumes facts not in evidence. I would never fly the Confederate flag because it symbolizes the worst part of our history and the Democrat Party
2) NYT often babbles in race-baiting and has hired people with dubious beliefs about race, the so-called 1619 project.
Sorry. I’ve never heard the phrase before, but it sounds like a criticism of young men who could be working, but are not.
I’ve lived in the south since I started college in the 70’s. A “young buck “ describes a healthy, strong young man.
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Nepperhan
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Actually is describes it as mostly white. Are you calling mostly white groups racist? The article does not imply racism by NASCAR but states the opposite.
Review again what makes up an ad hominem argument.
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Nepperhan
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Reagan used the phrase to denote black males cheating on welfare, so you are close. Of course, Reagan had no verification of his claim.
See? Folks of any political stripe can pick up on the ‘dog whistle’ comments.
Then you are unfamiliar with southern colloquialisms.
" strapping young buck
From a 1976 speech by Ronald Reagan, who complained of “strapping young bucks” using public assistance to buy T-Bone steaks, the phrase is shorthand for “undeserving and lazy black people living off hardworking white taxpayers instead of getting a job.” Many commentators have noted that the phrase originated from the auction block. Now used ironically by liberal commentators to identify racist dog-whistles in conservative argument."
"buck
Code:
pl. bucks or a male deer, antelope, goat, rabbit, etc.
the act of bucking
buckskin
[pl.] casual oxford shoes, originally of buckskin, now usually of light-colored suede, nubuck, etc.
Informal a young man, esp. one who is bold, lively, vigorous, etc.: sometimes a contemptuous or patronizing term as applied to a young black or North American Indian man
Archaic a fop or dandy"
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otjm
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As I noted, historians are divided on the issue; your opinion is one side of the coin, to which there are two sides.
I don’t exactly have a dog in the fight, other than that people make statements as if they were the authority on the matter; my point being the authorities are divided.
It clearly was about power and control. Most dictatorships, if not all, are about power and control; and there are dictators on both ends of the spectrum.
I don’t exactly have a dog in the fight, other than that people make statements as if they were the authority on the matter; my point being the authorities are divided.
It clearly was about power and control. Most dictatorships, if not all, are about power and control; and there are dictators on both ends of the spectrum.
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otjm
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I await your evidence.
That is called a red herring; I did not say that any of those Presidents made attacks on the opposite party. I said there was tribalism during those presidencies.
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