Trump v. Clinton matchup has Catholic leaders scrambling

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Hillary Clinton: Killing a Baby in an Abortion is a “Choice Rooted in Thoughtfulness” Life News
The Democratic presidential candidate has not budged on her position, but she appears to be trying to win votes with less aggressive language on the issue. During an interview on The View on Tuesday, Clinton made a comment that panders to pro-life voters but is almost certain to draw ire from abortion activists.
There’s no hyperbole Clinton cooperates by promoting and advocating for PP in the death of approx 1-million children a year. She is despicable, and has today the highest unfavorable rating in America. She’s a murderer and a liar with zero integrity and no flowery language and slick talk will change that.
Then, during a September interview on CBS, Clinton revealed that she wouldn’t support a federal limit on abortion “at any state of pregnancy” in the name of a “woman’s right to choose.”
We haven’t misrepresented Hillary at all, the facts suffice with such a corrupt diabolical individual.
This stands in stark opposition to most Americans’ positions on abortion, according to polling. A Marist survey found that 8 in 10 Americans, including 82 percent of women, would restrict abortion to the first three months of pregnancy, at most. Even 66 percent of Americans who identify as pro-choice say they want more abortion restrictions.
Clinton also is a favorite of Planned Parenthood because she promised to overturn the Hyde Amendment if elected. The amendment protects taxpayer dollars from funding elective abortions through federal programs like Medicaid. Planned Parenthood stands to make even more money if Hyde is overturned, but a strong majority of Americans oppose taxpayer funding of abortion.
 
That is so true.
I can personally fully relate. I grew up in the same culture too. I received education in schools where genetic counselling was taught as a good thing, and those not taking the advise of genetic counselors to eliminate certain genetic conditions were seen as being irresponsible.
Me too and actually was initially on the opposite side of this from the on-set but the complexity of the horrors of this are never ending. We thought we were helping the women out from the on-set.

They turned this into mass genocidal sexual warfare and NOW even kill off their own kind by “choice” . :confused: :eek: Listen, lets stop talking falsely this is way out of control. Like a war of the sexes gone astray. You want to know the truth, I fear for the spanish community coming here, we are in essence infecting their culture. Its another area the Rep drop the ball with the migrants as they don’t appear to their faith and values at all.

But think about the complexity of this. OKL passed a bill today making abortion a felony, I think its unconstitutional at the moment but by large the states are alarmed with this. People are tired of the wild out of control behavior resulting in this kind of death and not just with the unborn but in the cities and with the kids too.

There is no excuse for 1-million a year based on a non existing right and the left promotes all of it and further their intentional divisiveness promotes violence with the kids and even in their campaigns, look at Bernies protesters, never mind Baltimore or Chicago with violence. No secret if women can kill off their own kind then barbarism is on the table.
Proponents of sex-selective abortion bans claim that the United States is one of the few countries in the world where sex-selective abortion is not prohibited.
Sure women killing off their own sex, nothing questionable about that behavior, thats a right?
 
“America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has shown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father’s role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts ~ a child ~ as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience. It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the independent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters. And in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being’s entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign.”
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta , “Notable and Quotable”, Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94
Now the behavior and left indoctrination through education has over shouted all rational prudential conversation to the point wanton violence in all areas of its self promoted blindness has permeated the country. And after all this violence why would anyone be surprised they think nothing of people running around with other crazy behavior. Should be no surprise the culture of death would have their own variation of death worship via selfishness.

Whats really amazing is the way anyone would minimize all this chaos suggesting eh its not even a priority in the election. Its sheer blindness to a massive consent to violence and death.
"Many people are concerned with children of India, with the children of Africa where quite a few die of hunger, and so on. Many people are also concerned about the violence in this great country of the United States.
These concerns are very good. But often these same people are not concerned with the millions being killed by the deliberate decision of their own mothers. And this is the greatest destroyer of peace today- abortion which brings people to such blindness." Blessed Mother Teresa
If you kill the unborn then it should be no surprise kids are killing each other. If fact in the sequence of behavior you teach by yelling, I would say its predictable. It should be no secret either, this is priority with Catholic social teaching and human rights. As we see deviation of this right means your idea of human rights is, well, nonsensical.

The fact is the democrats been bullies with this indoctrination of education and this is what resulted. So its also quite normal the ridiculous pc conversation died this year as they reached epic proportions of nonsensical with violence at every imaginable point of their teaching. Its not hyperbole its factual reality. The lefts answer is gun control and Hillary the ambassador of wellness, and lets poison some other cultures. :confused: 😊 She promotes terrorism by education of her own platform.
 
By the time Thursday rolled around, polls showed Hillary Clinton had fallen to second place behind presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump. The same poll also indicated her unfavorability ratings with the electorate have now surpassed the ahem occasionally abrasive Trump. At this point, her campaign is a train wreck, and I don’t mean the shopping-cart-on-the-T-tracks kind that causes an hour delay on the Orange Line; I mean the explode-y kind that ends up as a TV movie.
Maybe that’s why The New York Times, always a redoubtable defender of all things Hillary, trotted out a lurid tale of misogynistic horrors miles beyond the realm of decency. In last Saturday’s edition of “All the News That Hillary Considers Fit to Print,” the Times took aim at Donald Trump’s romantic past with “Crossing the Line: How Donald Trump Behaved with Women in Private.” He noticed the Miss Universe pageant contestants’ looks! He called a woman “dear!” That’s almost as sexist as Chris Matthews’ inner monologue whenever he sees Melania Trump! And the Times had the proof in black and white; testimony from the victims of Trump’s anti-woman assaults.
Except maybe not so much. Less than 48 hours after the Times dropped the bombshell which was sure to reshape the 2016 campaign in Hillary’s favor, one of the victims of Trump’s anti-woman assaults popped up and promptly nuked the Old Gray Lady’s defense of the other old, gray lady. According to the Times’ star “source,” Rowanne Brewer-Lane, the Times deliberately mischaracterized her comments. Said Ms. Brewer-Lane, “They have an agenda to make Trump look unfavorable at this point in the race,” adding Trump “…never made me feel like I was being demeaned in any way, he never offended me in any way.”
It’s almost enough to make me wonder if the Times might actually be pulling for The Donald. Hillary has never been able to shed her husband’s baggage. And the bullhorn piece, which didn’t even prove that Trump was more than the occasional jerk, turned the spotlight right back onto Hillary. Moreover, it lit up the guy who sometimes stands next to her; former President Bill Clinton.
In an attempt to make Trump’s love life a campaign issue, the Times opened the window to Hillary’s own treatment of women. And any discussion of Hillary’s affairs of the heart has to include her husband’s affairs of the — er… — sub-heart region. After all, she rode his bathrobe-tails to the big time, so she surely noticed the many women she and her man bulldozed along the way. Hillary is fond of using former Secretary of State Madeline Albright’s platitude “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.” Yet Hillary partook — often gleefully — in the brutal ruination of the lives of women who got too close to Bill’s orbit; from the “bimbo eruptions” onward. Therefore, I’d say Nana has four decades’ worth of explaining to do… especially now that the Times has decided Trump owes the same.
And the blow back from the Times’ smear attempt is worse than you thought. New reports prove that the former President spent an inordinate amount of quality time with convicted sex offender and pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein. That’s right, kiddies: The man who ruined blue dresses for a generation never hung up his perv-spurs. He’s been a passenger on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” nearly 30 times. Bubba’s reserved seat on a plane literally designed to serve as an airborne child molest-atorium, combined with his Lothario past, have maxed out Hillary’s “woman card.”
According to Hillary Clinton, “Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed and supported.” And yet, she has willingly ignored, denied and undermined multiple survivors of her husband’s near-half century of sexual assaults. The New York Times says Trump is the real lecher of 2016, but they couldn’t find a single woman who claims to have been assaulted by the man, despite exhaustive investigating. Maybe their next effort could be “Crossing the Line: How Bill Clinton Behaved with Women in Public AND Private; and how Hillary Clinton Didn’t Care.”
— Ben Crystal
 
There’s no hyperbole Clinton cooperates by promoting and advocating for PP in the death of approx 1-million children a year.
That does not mean Clinton “wants” to kill babies. That is hyperbole.
She’s a murderer
If there are any murderers in this regard it is the mothers who decide to abort, or the close family and friends who pressure those mothers into doing it, or the doctors who actual do the killing. These are the people directly involved. To my knowledge, Hillary has never counseled anyone personally to get an abortion. So yes, those statements are hyperbole. The most you can say is that Hillary is wrong.
We haven’t misrepresented Hillary at all, the facts suffice with such a corrupt diabolical individual.
“Diabolical”? Really? Talk about demonizing your opponent. I’m surprised you don’t call the primary murders that I listed above “diabolical”. And why not? As a group they are much more responsible than Hillary.
 
There is no hyperbole with Hillary because logic and proportion fell sloppy dead. You can’t blow nonsensical out of proportion. Hillary who consents and advocates to a right man can’t give then following suite refuses another with the 2 second amendment she and man have no right to take. Sorry she is critically confused and the teacher of terror. People like the above article should be outraged by this confused individual.
 
So Bill with NAFTA, Housing etc, makes Times list
Time Magazine’s 25 people to blame for the financial crisis; Bill Clinton was ranked 13th on Time’s list,
Then Hillary while since we are talking priority as if the above isn’t a priority the election brings the major concern nationwide priority as economy and jobs. And what does Hillary want to do,

Outsource Americans #1 priority to Bill. :confused:
If she’s elected president, Hillary Clinton says she’ll appoint her husband, Bill, to oversee the economy.
During a speech in Kentucky Sunday she referred to “my husband, who I will put in charge of revitalizing the economy 'cause he knows what he’s doing.”
 
Again, how can any Catholic in good conscience support Hillary Clinton?

There are some things in this church which are not up for rebranding, debate or reinterpreting. Abortion and gay “marriage” are two of them.

HIllary Clinton is strongly in favor of both. As president this is what she would work for. This rules out any choice but voting for another candidate or not voting at all. It is really that simple.

It doesn’t matter what other good she might do. Being in favor of murder negates all the rest. Doing grave evil for some intended good is still grave evil. The end does NOT justify the means.

Hillary is a no go.
Wow, I couldn’t have said it better myself…you put into words my feelings.
 
That does not mean Clinton “wants” to kill babies. That is hyperbole.

If there are any murderers in this regard it is the mothers who decide to abort, or the close family and friends who pressure those mothers into doing it, or the doctors who actual do the killing. These are the people directly involved. To my knowledge, Hillary has never counseled anyone personally to get an abortion. So yes, those statements are hyperbole. The most you can say is that Hillary is wrong.

“Diabolical”? Really? Talk about demonizing your opponent. I’m surprised you don’t call the primary murders that I listed above “diabolical”. And why not? As a group they are much more responsible than Hillary.
Hillary Clinton vigorously defends a woman’s right to pay somebody to kill their child. This is an absolutely despicable position and the fact that we have people defending this position, more or less Catholics, goes to show how they degraded our culture is . One should not need a Church or anybody else to tell them they cannot support such evil .
 
Hillary Clinton vigorously defends a woman’s right to pay somebody to kill their child. This is an absolutely despicable position and the fact that we have people defending this position, more or less Catholics, goes to show how they degraded our culture is . One should not need a Church or anybody else to tell them they cannot support such evil .
I am not defending her position. I am merely pointing out the hyperbole in misrepresenting her position. I still think she is wrong.
 
I am not defending her position. I am merely pointing out the hyperbole in misrepresenting her position. I still think she is wrong.
Actually there’s a concentrated effort by the media and her supporters to minimize the abject evil she supports . In fact not only do they support her in this, they praise it! One of the reasons that abortion is so acceptable in this country is because pointing out what it is they are really supporting is dismissed as hyperbole .
 
It doesn’t matter what other good she might do. Being in favor of murder negates all the rest. Doing grave evil for some intended good is still grave evil. The end does NOT justify the means.
Hillary is a no go.
I think too thats the point of the further lesson in Catholic teaching and moving past it, if at all possible which I can’t see how one can neglect that nonsensical elephant that has in the room that has created a internal culture war, there is no “other good” on the multi issue Clinton platform that outweighs her pro choice position. All I see in fact is by large further reason which coincides as mentioned and linked, with more bad choices which imho as I said is quite predictable.

The multi issue culminating in the better of the good of the candidates is a pseudo proposition imho as shown as there is also multiple issues aside from abortion which contribute to her overall non acceptable position. The entire assumed position is nothing more than a suggestive thinking strawman of a non existing reality. Obviously its absurd and as mentioned is the theory of womens rights advocate, and she won’t even take personal hands on responsibility for americas most vocalized concerns with the economy. The second amendment in light of abortion are both constitutional horror shows and what a mess has been created as a result. Its not rational from a secular perspective let alone Catholic/Christian, it follows no rule of law but the ones it makes up as it goes along by undermining the very Constitution and continuing to contend for the latitude to further assault the right to protect life. Effectively the Hillary team has neglected “Life” and the “Right to Protect Life”

And their is no end to the chaos as a result with this party, its predictable and natural by that very sequence that anything goes. …
A Black Lives Matter activist who operates a social justice charity was arrested last month on charges of sex trafficking a 17-year-old girl.
Charles Wade co-founded Operation Help or Hush in the aftermath of the August 2014 police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. The group claims it helps raise funds for the needy and provide food and shelter for activists
dailycaller.com/2016/05/19/black-lives-matter-leader-charged-with-pimping-a-17-year-old-girl/
 
Actually there’s a concentrated effort by the media and her supporters to minimize the abject evil she supports . In fact not only do they support her in this, they praise it! One of the reasons that abortion is so acceptable in this country is because pointing out what it is they are really supporting is dismissed as hyperbole .
It is not hyperbole to say that abortion is murder. It is hyperbole to say that Clinton is a murderer.
 
Oops, throw the case out of court Leaf got us on a technicality.
He/She who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
King
“In a real sense all life is inter-related. All men are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be, and you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be…
This is the inter-related structure of reality.” King
And now you want to poison the Spanish culture. Everyone should be scared of this lady. They need to come to grips with reality and further they now make terrorism easier with their agenda. They are way off course imho. Im sorry she can’t bring herself to clearly see, but she is clearly blinded. As If we didn’t already have enough going on with all this violence we now have as a result people running around yelling Allahu Akbar and killing people. The foreign policy disaster resulted not in fighting terrorists in their own country but now spilling over the in the streets of America because of this parties confusion over the middle east foreign policy and their ever evolving position.
 
Hillary said the unborn child has NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

Don’t vote for her.

If she says that about an innocent child, next she could say the disabled or elderly.

You don’t know which major case will come up in the supreme court…what about euthanasia? What if the culture of death people push for this or what they did in the 1930s…forced sterilization ?

We need CONSTITUTIONALISTS for the supreme court… not persons who find the right to kill an unborn child or the right for two men to “marry”.
 
Hillary said the unborn child has NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

Don’t vote for her.

If she says that about an innocent child, next she could say the disabled or elderly.

You don’t know which major case will come up in the supreme court…what about euthanasia? What if the culture of death people push for this or what they did in the 1930s…forced sterilization ?

We need CONSTITUTIONALISTS for the supreme court… not persons who find the right to kill an unborn child or the right for two men to “marry”.
You realize that most “constitutionalists” also agree that the unborn have no constitutional rights? That was certainly Scalia’s position. Most of the so-called constitutionalists believe abortion is a matter for each state to decide, because their view is the federal constitution does not apply to abortion one way or the other.
 
I don’t know think about it,
You realize that most “constitutionalists” also agree that the unborn have no constitutional rights? That was certainly Scalia’s position. Most of the so-called constitutionalists believe abortion is a matter for each state to decide, because their view is the federal constitution does not apply to abortion one way or the other.
Most constitutionalists think that life shouldn’t have been decided by a handful of judges but by the people and state to state for sure. They believe no different that the Church believes also though that we should protect every human life, and we should protect every life from the moment of conception.
It was Justice Kennedy, of course, who in 1992 had helped craft a compromise decision that salvaged most of Roe v. Wade, but that also provided new constitutional respect for the life of the developing fetus.
Kennedy’s opinion in the partial-birth abortion case enhanced that display of constitutional respect for fetal life. He wrote: “The government may use its voice and its regulatory authority to show its profound respect for the life within the woman.”
Since that ruling, the anti-Roe movement has been shifting its strategy away from seeking outright bans on specific methods of abortion, and toward attempts to regulate the circumstances in which terminating pregnancy will be allowed, or forbidden. Much of that strategy is aimed at building upon the protection of the developing fetus, seeing in Kennedy’s 2007 opinion an implied invitation to take that specific route.
Beginning with the view that fetal life begins at conception, such laws seek to push earlier into the cycle of pregnancy the point at which a state can step in to protect the fetus. Some of those laws seek to provide fetal protection as early as six weeks into the pregnancy.
 
Hillary said the unborn child has NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

Don’t vote for her.

If she says that about an innocent child, next she could say the disabled or elderly.

You don’t know which major case will come up in the supreme court…what about euthanasia? What if the culture of death people push for this or what they did in the 1930s…forced sterilization ?

We need CONSTITUTIONALISTS for the supreme court… not persons who find the right to kill an unborn child or the right for two men to “marry”.
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“Diabolical”? Really? Talk about demonizing your opponent. I’m surprised you don’t call the primary murders that I listed above “diabolical”. And why not? As a group they are much more responsible than Hillary.
I have to agree with the word. She and Trump represent the two great diabolical attacks on America today. The are active promoters of Satan’s war to sell him our souls for money and sex. She may be a blind tool, but she is a tool.
 
I don’t know think about it,

Most constitutionalists think that life shouldn’t have been decided by a handful of judges but by the people and state to state for sure. They believe no different that the Church believes also though that we should protect every human life, and we should protect every life from the moment of conception.
I don’t think anyone can really say what “most constitutionalists” think, in part because no one can agree on what a “constitutionalist” is. I can say what the so-called constitutionalists actually on the Supreme Court have said (i.e. Scalia and his like-minded colleagues), and that is that constitutional rights only apply to born people. They believe that states have the power to allow or disallow abortion. If their view were to prevail, then abortion would likely become illegal in some states, and remain legal in others. The SC “constitutionalists” do not necessarily advocate for outlawing abortion everywhere (or anywhere). Their position relates only to what body has the authority to make that decision, not to what the decision should be.

I am not sure what you mean by the Church’s position. The Church does not have a position on the meaning of the US Constitution. The Church does teach that abortion is always wrong.
 
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