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So do you believe a lot of Democrats are the real ones who are voting for Trump to make it seem like he is winning? Because right now, and I’m basing this on how I have seen other elections unfold, Trump for Presedent seems to be the will of the people.

I’ve been trying to understand why that is.
Democrats cross lines to vote every cycle…they know how to play this political game. Does anyone think they’ll reject Hillary for Trump, or reject Hillary for any GOP candidate? Not going to happen in the general.
 
I don’t agree. There are many millions who are reacting angrily about Romney’s speech. He has put his lifetime reputation as a statesman at risk. That is hardly worth an, atta-boy from the team.
Rubio and Romney saying close to the same thing. I certainly do believe something is going on behind-the-doors alright.
 
Democrats cross lines to vote every cycle…they know how to play this political game. Does anyone think they’ll reject Hillary for Trump, or reject Hillary for any GOP candidate? Not going to happen in the general.
Maybe I’m naïve, but it would never even occur to me to cross party lines in primary voting, assuming it were permitted in New York. As far as rejecting Hillary for Trump, you may be right; but there are also Democrats who will not vote for Clinton if Sanders is not the nominee. She has lost the appeal she had for many Democrats in 2008.
 
Win/Lose in 2012, Romney was the de-facto head of the GOP until the next Primary is completed. I’m very disappointed in Mitt for taking a 3yr vacation, he abdicated his mantle to lead.

Regarding Romney as a viable write-in candidate, he shrank the Republican party while Trump is expanding the base. He might give Hillary a win though if he tries.
Trump expanding the base? But about 60% or more of Republicans do not support Donald Trump. They’ve voted for other candidates in a fractured field.
 
uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-election-trump-foreignpolicy-idUKKCN0W507S

This story came out today too; Republican foreign policy advisers rebuke Trump; just reporting. From what I’ve heard, there are not “big names” on the list.
Are these the experts that screwed up the Middle East the past decade?
Romney is a plain citizen now and is not running for anything. Funny thing, I wonder how the response would have been had he come out in full out support of Trump? I am sure many people here would not be saying the same things they are now.

Sarah Palin, Glen Beck, and an entire host of other people can speak and write about the election, but Romney is supposed to stay silent?
As the last nominee, Romney has been the defacto spokesperson for the GOP since he lost, that’s the way it works. Thus he does represent the GOP establishment and should not endorse a specific candidate.

I’m further disappointed in him since he’s ignored his role for three years, quite a vacation.
 
Are these the experts that screwed up the Middle East the past decade?
I have heard such a remark previously but as far as I’m concerned, it’s the year 2016, George Bush left office in 2009.
 
I’m not faulting Rubio in saying this but Rubio gave all those speeches where he got a bit colorful and used the term “Con-Man” quite a bit.

Romney uses the word “fraud”.

Now, we have these Republican Foreign Policy Advisers warning on Trump’s world view. townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2016/03/02/republican-foreign-policy-veterans-to-rebuke-trump-world-view-n2127980

Oh, sure, the Establishment is Mythological.
The establishment as people speak of it is a mere construct of fiction. The establishment as in the RNC and its leaders, is real and very visible. Its not like they are trying to hide anything they want to do–they are telling us everything that is being considered.
 
The establishment as people speak of it is a mere construct of fiction. The establishment as in the RNC and its leaders, is real and very visible. Its not like they are trying to hide anything they want to do–they are telling us everything that is being considered.
I don’t think people are making the differentiation one is asserting here; the RNC and its leaders AND its donors.
 
Are these the experts that screwed up the Middle East the past decade?

As the last nominee, Romney has been the defacto spokesperson for the GOP since he lost, that’s the way it works. Thus he does represent the GOP establishment and should not endorse a specific candidate.

I’m further disappointed in him since he’s ignored his role for three years, quite a vacation.
Two time losers are never defacto spokespersons. They are simply called, regular citizens. Romney is not part of the so-called establishment. He is outside all of it now.
 
Democrats cross lines to vote every cycle…they know how to play this political game. Does anyone think they’ll reject Hillary for Trump, or reject Hillary for any GOP candidate? Not going to happen in the general.
And Republicans don’t jump lines?

This claim is made at every election and it never holds water. Why is that? It must be that there are just as many Republicans as there are Democrats jumping lines to try and help thier cause.

You know what? Listening to Trump right now he is espousing everything negative liberals have said about Conservatives. And by him having the following he has, seems to be proving everything that Liberals have said that is bad about conservatives is actually true.
 
Trump has galvanized a lot of people, again, the GOP may be shooting itself in the foot with their reaction, who knows. I think McConnel made some sort of remark too about Trump.

If it’s not establishment or elite, it does seem to also come from inside the beltway.
 
Trump wants the Military to spend their money more wisely, he’s not popular in the Pentagon.

Expect the establishment to trot out senior pentagon officials to throw mud soon.
Donald Trump is right about defense spending – and that should scare you
Donald Trump could be the only presidential candidate talking sense about for the American military’s budget. That should scare everyone.
“I’m gonna build a military that’s gonna be much stronger than it is right now,” the real- estate-mogul-turned-tautological-demagogue said on Meet the Press. “It’s gonna be so strong, nobody’s gonna mess with us. But you know what? We can do it for a lot less.”

He’s right.

U.S. military spending is out of control. The Defense Department budget for 2016 is $573 billion. President Barack Obama’s 2017 proposal ups it to $582 billion. By comparison, China spent around $145 billion and Russia around $40 billion in 2015. Moscow would have spent more, but the falling price of oil, sanctions and the ensuing economic crisis stayed its hand.
. . . (continued)
 
Does anybody else regret having voted for mitt Romney just about now?
In the 2012 general election I voted for him and in no way regret it. In the primary, well I didn’t think too much about it one way or the other because by the time my state voted he was already in.
 
I don’t think people are making the differentiation one is asserting here; the RNC and its leaders AND its donors.
I agree, but they should because there really is no secret plan being created by evil people in the dark. The RNC leaders have quite well made their displeasure with Trump known.

But, here’s the thing, and something I think a lot of people miss. Even if there was some evil, dark, sinister group trying to thwart Trump’s chances, the people still have total freedom to vote for whomever they want.

So many people are trying to claim the RNC is attempting to force people to vote a certain way, and that is utter nonsense because people can and will vote for whomever they want. As much as the left likes to think of itself as intelligent and free thinkers, in truth people on the right are far better free thinkers and that is proved by the chaos we see in the GOP. People are voting for who they want, and that is creating a mess because people on the right do not march like herd as do people on the left. Democrats always vote for and defend their own–NO MATTER WHAT–they walk, talk, eat, and vote in total sync as if they are part of some collective (but that is not true of people in the right).

What people see as some horrible establishment, is really evidence that we have a far more honest and open process–from people on the bottom all the way to the leaders of the RNC, we all have a voice and we are all trying to pull for the person we want.
 
Trump wants the Military to spend their money more wisely, he’s not popular in the Pentagon.

Expect the establishment to trot out senior pentagon officials to throw mud soon.
I thought the Republican claim is that the Obama administration has tried to gut the military by reducing expenditure.
 
And Republicans don’t jump lines?

This claim is made at every election and it never holds water. Why is that? It must be that there are just as many Republicans as there are Democrats jumping lines to try and help thier cause.

You know what? Listening to Trump right now he is espousing everything negative liberals have said about Conservatives. And by him having the following he has, seems to be proving everything that Liberals have said that is bad about conservatives is actually true.
That is fine. I’d rather belong to a party that can fight it out and be real people, versus belonging to herd that is the Democratic Party.
 
LOL yes, some of them actually do. Some of them vote 3rd party also. Dems also use the exact same blackmail method being used here “staying home is a vote for the Republican”.

Besides, you don’t need us, because you’ve got all the new Republican’s that joined the party for Trump, remember?
You can call it blackmail. I call it being realistic.
I’m not endorsing Trump, just pushing to keep Hillary out.
Yes, we all have the freedom to vote for whoever we want, or not vote at all. But it’s a mistake to think that whether it’s Hillary or Trump won’t matter. At least there are some question marks with Trump and there’s a chance he’ll bring about some change for the good of our people. With Hillary it’s 4 more years of Obama type policies–a certain disaster for all of us.
 
I agree, but they should because there really is no secret plan being created by evil people in the dark. The RNC leaders have quite well made their displeasure with Trump known.

But, here’s the thing, and something I think a lot of people miss. Even if there was some evil, dark, sinister group trying to thwart Trump’s chances, the people still have total freedom to vote for whomever they want.

So many people are trying to claim the RNC is attempting to force people to vote a certain way, and that is utter nonsense because people can and will vote for whomever they want. As much as the left likes to think of itself as intelligent and free thinkers, in truth people on the right are far better free thinkers and that is proved by the chaos we see in the GOP. People are voting for who they want, and that is creating a mess because people on the right do not march like herd as do people on the left. Democrats always vote for and defend their own–NO MATTER WHAT–they walk, talk, eat, and vote in total sync as if they are part of some collective (but that is not true of people in the right).

What people see as some horrible establishment, is really evidence that we have a far more honest and open process–from people on the bottom all the way to the leaders of the RNC, we all have a voice and we are all trying to pull for the person we want.
The plan is being constructing on ‘donor calls’ and through meetings with consultants etc. **Do you think the SuperPACs were given all that money and they don’t need a strategy? ** Recordings of these calls are leaked, recently there was planning around creating a brokered convention.

The establishment exists, but it’s not the parody you portray - evil, dark, etc. It’s just deeply self interested. Do you not believe there is a Military Industrial Complex mentioned by Ike?
 
I agree, but they should because there really is no secret plan being created by evil people in the dark. The RNC leaders have quite well made their displeasure with Trump known.

But, here’s the thing, and something I think a lot of people miss. Even if there was some evil, dark, sinister group trying to thwart Trump’s chances, the people still have total freedom to vote for whomever they want.

So many people are trying to claim the RNC is attempting to force people to vote a certain way, and that is utter nonsense because people can and will vote for whomever they want. As much as the left likes to think of itself as intelligent and free thinkers, in truth people on the right are far better free thinkers and that is proved by the chaos we see in the GOP. People are voting for who they want, and that is creating a mess because people on the right do not march like herd as do people on the left. Democrats always vote for and defend their own–NO MATTER WHAT–they walk, talk, eat, and vote in total sync as if they are part of some collective (but that is not true of people in the right).

What people see as some horrible establishment, is really evidence that we have a far more honest and open process–from people on the bottom all the way to the leaders of the RNC, we all have a voice and we are all trying to pull for the person we want.
Who said any of this but you? Point out the post? The fact is people don’t want to be told what to eat, when to eat, who to vote for and how to think. And its quite apparent with Trump and Cruz on Tuesday. Then you would then like to suggest they are this and that and angry amd so forth, as if you know them all. Fact is they voted for who they chose to be it we like it or not. Its called being an American and your rights. The GOP-RNC are hypocrites plain and simple. And no what you have is coercion, conspiracy and brainwashing and apparently some brainwashed who will march to that tune. Perhaps thats what you don’t like about those you THINK are angry.
 
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