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Trump understands loyalty? Maybe he does. But be careful about what and who people are loyal too and for.🙂
Trump understands loyalty as commoners do. If someone has treated me kindly, I don’t bite them. That’s his foreign policy as well: be good to those who help you, and be tough with those who are not good to you. Very simple!
 
Trump understands loyalty as commoners do. If someone has treated me kindly, I don’t bite them. That’s his foreign policy as well: be good to those who help you, and be tough with those who are not good to you. Very simple!
Do you really believe Trump supported Romney, or any other politician for that matter, out of the kindness of his heart?
 
What are your thoughts?
Romney is desperately trying to elbow his way in to the nomination. He couldn’t win against Obama, but now he thinks he can beat Hillary. He is aiming to stop Trump and create a deadlock with a brokered convention that will end up choosing him for the Republican nomination. He says that Trump is bad because he throws mud, but in his speech, Romney throws a lot of mud against Trump. If Trump is so bad, why did Romney want his endorsement before?
Romney knew he could not win in the current cycle of primaries. He would finish near last. But he came up with this idea of stopping Trump and creating disarray in a brokered convention that might end up in despair choosing him as the nominee.
 
Do you really believe Trump supported Romney, or any other politician for that matter, out of the kindness of his heart?
Trump helped Romney, no matter how you cut it. He didn’t ask for a job. He wanted the republicans to win. For Romney to attack Trump is disgraceful. What he said was disgraceful.
 
Trump helped Romney, no matter how you cut it. He didn’t ask for a job. He wanted the republicans to win. For Romney to attack Trump is disgraceful. What he said was disgraceful.
Trump has donated to a bunch of Democrats too; how about that loyalty?
 
Funny, I thought Romney could have been a lot stronger and harsher in what he said and I have no doubt he could and would have said it if he was not the gentleman that he is. No one can show that kind of restraint if they were not a gentleman. And, if one believes that what Romney did and said is disgusting, then what does that make what Trump does and says?
Here I am butting in again from the other side of the world.

I don’t know much about Mitt Romney or if there is anything dodgy about his motives for making that speech, but why not just really listen and think take on board what he said?

I listened as someone who has no “baggage” in this political game. I thought it was a measured and considered and balanced speech - and gentlemanly, as you say, Simple Soul. (What a relief to the ears after Trump’s nasty tirades)

Romney, I believe, genuinely loves your country and is trying to point out the dangers of electing Trump as president. It is exactly what outside “foreign” observers are saying and have been saying since Trump came on the scene.

I couldn’t help but wish Romney was one of the candidates - even if it is none of my business.

Please, America, listen to this speech and take heed!!.
 
I thought the Republican claim is that the Obama administration has tried to gut the military by reducing expenditure.
They do make that claim. What they don’t mention is that the reductions in funding for the military result from sequestration, which itself resulted from the failure of the House of Representatives to pass a budget that both the GOP and Democrats could agree to. Later, the House GOP wanted to raise military spending without raising spending on other domestic issues, which the Democrats rejected. In the end, reduced military spending resulted from a complete inability of the GOP-controlled Congress to pass a budget.

Or, from a different perspective, we’d have a stronger military if congressional Democrats and Obama would give up and agree to GOP budget priorities. Of course, then we would call them Republicans…
 
Romney still has 60% approval ratings among Republicans.
Romney is trashing Trump in an effort to create a brokered convention where he can be the nominee. Romney knew he couldn’t win the primaries, so a brokered convention is his only chance.
 
Tonight’s debate is going to be ruthless. One last chance to take down trump. Mitt Romney’s done his part to try to rattle Trump and then it’ll Cruz and Rubio’s turn. And the audience will help by booing every time Trump speaks. I will be surprised if they don’t.
This is only the beginning. Wait until the Democrats begin campaigning in earnest against Trump. He offers a very big target for negative campaigning – even without all of the attacks from within the GOP.
 
Here I am butting in again from the other side of the world.

I don’t know much about Mitt Romney or if there is anything dodgy about his motives for making that speech, but why not just really listen and think take on board what he said?

I listened as someone who has no “baggage” in this political game. I thought it was a measured and considered and balanced speech - and gentlemanly, as you say, Simple Soul. (What a relief to the ears after Trump’s nasty tirades)

Romney, I believe, genuinely loves your country and is trying to point out the dangers of electing Trump as president. It is exactly what outside “foreign” observers are saying and have been saying since Trump came on the scene.

I couldn’t help but wish Romney was one of the candidates - even if it is none of my business.

Please, America, listen to this speech and take heed!!.
He ran twice and lost twice. America has listened and said no to Romney.
 
The GOP establishment/leaders would rather have Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump at this point. Believe it or not, that is understandable.

Hillary Clinton is actually pretty conservative on the non-social issues, which are issues that Trump himself may not even be conservative on. I don’t really buy him as being pro-life or anti-gay marriage or any of that really. I’m gonna wait for the general debates before deciding on who to vote for if it is those between those two.
 
Romney is desperately trying to elbow his way in to the nomination. He couldn’t win against Obama, but now he thinks he can beat Hillary. He is aiming to stop Trump and create a deadlock with a brokered convention that will end up choosing him for the Republican nomination. He says that Trump is bad because he throws mud, but in his speech, Romney throws a lot of mud against Trump. If Trump is so bad, why did Romney want his endorsement before?
Romney knew he could not win in the current cycle of primaries. He would finish near last. But he came up with this idea of stopping Trump and creating disarray in a brokered convention that might end up in despair choosing him as the nominee.
I think so also and its why I believe his conversation went as it did about Ohio and Fla, which would continue to ensure a brokered convention. Aside from this we would all have to be deaf dumb and blind to believe ALL are flying sola in this obvious conspiracy. Be that as it may be many insist they will not vote for Trump regardless which must happen or the loss is automatic. I find that to be traitorous to the common good and frankly unacceptable. Further Mitt should have had the heart to talk about the Democrat comp as he has Trump. Its quite a dog and pony show imho.
 
Romney has zero political clout, he has run twice, got the nomination once and lost in the general. Since then he has pretty much stayed out of politics. Very few people really care what he has to say. And I’m not a Trump supporter, I also think it’s completely ridiculous to think that just because someone endorsed you years ago. That you can never say anything negative about them.
 
Well if any of Donald’s campaign team are following this, please tell him to skip the debate tonight! Rubio, Cruz and Kelly are going to bushwack him at every turn. This entire episode is a wake up call to all America that our government has been fully usurped from the people. Neither party gives a **** about us. Period. Lobbyists and the 1% control everything.
 
Romney is trashing Trump in an effort to create a brokered convention where he can be the nominee. Romney knew he couldn’t win the primaries, so a brokered convention is his only chance.
I don’t believe that. He’s a complete failure as a candidate as the last two election cycles prove. There is zero reason to think the GOP would put in a two time loser.
 
The GOP establishment/leaders would rather have Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump at this point. Believe it or not, that is understandable.

Hillary Clinton is actually pretty conservative on the non-social issues, which are issues that Trump himself may not even be conservative on. I don’t really buy him as being pro-life or anti-gay marriage or any of that really. I’m gonna wait for the general debates before deciding on who to vote for if it is those between those two.
No I don’t believe that is remotely true. Nobody wants Clinton.
 
Well if any of Donald’s campaign team are following this, please tell him to skip the debate tonight! Rubio, Cruz and Kelly are going to bushwack him at every turn. This entire episode is a wake up call to all America that our government has been fully usurped from the people. Neither party gives a **** about us. Period. Lobbyists and the 1% control everything.
LOL with 60-70% of Republicans not supporting Trump, attacks against him are in no way usurping the will of the people. Because people who support other candidates are part of the people too.

With that attitude, don’t expect to convert those of us who don’t like Trump.
 
No I don’t believe that is remotely true. Nobody wants Clinton.
She’s popular with Democrats, including those who support Sanders. I know that she’s hated among the GOP, but she’s going to do very well with blacks and Hispanics, with women, and a bunch of other groups that tend to vote for Democrats. She leads Trump in the national polls (which really don’t matter that much, since it’s the electoral college that elects a President, and the Democrats have a built-in advantage there), and I think the gap will widen after what is likely to be a campaign full of negative campaigning. It’s hard to focus the attack his policies, since no one knows what those are, really.

I think that Clinton will beat Trump by a fair margin, assuming that Trump emerges from the GOP convention as the nominee. If the GOP picks another nominee in a brokered convention, then there’s a substantial chance that Trump will run as a third party candidate, split the vote with the GOP candidate, and Hillary will win in a landslide.
 
So–why would he make the speech? Could it be that he does love the USA and he genuinely believes Trump will lose to Hillary, and that even if he wins, he will be a terrible President? Could he actually have a real and genuine concern for the country–a place in which he has been blessed deeply and a place in which he wants to defend?
More than likely, someone has offered him the coveted Ambassador to France Job.
 
the GOP are delusional–like they were with romney–if they think count chocula or rubio could defeat hillary. trump is probably the best chance they got taking back the White house.
 
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