Trust issues and the Eucharist

[edward_george1]

I would actually caution that this might not be the way to go. Simply changing Mass form and language could help, but if the OP has serious trust issues, this will not address the underlying problem and just cause it to manifest itself differently. Any action the OP takes needs to be to address the underlying trust issues and scruples, which should only be handled by a counselor and spiritual director.

-Fr ACEGC

 

[ShowersofRoses]

Thank you, Father, I agree completely, which is why I told him to get therapy and help also. I think therapy should be mandatory for him with this level of trust issues. I just suggested changing Mass forms because I thought it could helpful for him in the meantime as he gets the help he needs. His therapist might have a different way of approaching this problem, and if so, he should follow his therapist’s advice.

I adjusted the wording of my previous post to better reflect this.

 

[QwertyGirl]

Your faith gives you the ability to believe, in general, that a priest’s words can change the hosts and wine into the body and blood of Christ. Use that same faith to believe the priest is using the correct words at whichever mass you attend.

 

[grotto]

Garrett, Maybe you are trying to overthink what is our Faith in the Holy Eucharist. Perhaps some reading from Catholic teachers will help you understand that Our Lord is never confounded by us and He is Present at every Mass - even when we know the priest is not carrying out the prayers of the Mass,
Jesus always comes to the one who receives Him. That is about as basic as I can tell you for sure. First learn more and I bet you will feel better about understanding and be comforted. If after learning and disussing with a good priest you can learn what needs be done to have the Mass your Joy.

 

[poche]

St Catherine of Sienna also addressed this problem in her dialogues.There used to be an abuse (at least I hope it is used to be) where the priest was in mortal sin and so that he would not receive communion in that state would omit the consecration. No one would ever know because the canon of the mass was silent.

It is in her writings a “The Dialogue” St Catherine is in dialogue with Christ. It is a book and I don’t have an online link to give you.at this time.

 

[poche]

I think we need to understand what is authentic traditional Catholicism. In order to be authenticly traditional in a Catholic sense you also have to be in communion with the Pope in Rome. The two go hand in hand… You cannot be a real traditional Catholic and not in communion with the Catholic Church.

 

[angel12]

The Traditional catholic movement have moved away from Rome, They do not recognise the Pope or the mass and are very open about telling people the Mass is not Valid so i don’t know where your coming from, they are no longer Roman Catholic.

This is a flat lie. Show us where the FSSP and/or ICKSP has said they don’t recognize the Pope. Show us where they have said the Ordinary Form is invalid.

You are deliberately smearing all traditionalists by the actions and views of the extremists. In doing so, you are also smearing Pope Benedict XVI, who issued Summorum Pontificum. Are you claiming that the Pope Emeritus is “no longer Catholic?” Are you claiming that you know better than the Vatican who is and who is not in Communion with Rome?

As a Catholic who attends, and loves, the Ordinary Form, I find your slander of traditionalism highly offensive. And I am obviously not the only one.

 

[sevenswords]

Having re read my statement and working out in my head that I really didn’t know what I was talking about, I would like to apologise to you and the other brothers I offended and thank you all for the correction. I will be more diligent in the future with my haste. So please forgive me.
Me and Jesus are working stuff out thanks for your patience.