Tucker: Are coronavirus lockdowns working?

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DENNYINMI said:
the Democrats are worried about lives lost to this virus, and the Republicans are worried more for the economy…
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StudentMI said:
Even as someone who detests the Democratic Party, this seems true as days go by.
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Emeraldlady said:
If the dems are wanting what the rest of the world is wanting and the Repulicans are wanting what is pretty universally regarded as death road,
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What are you guys even talking about? The Rs don’t want to universally go back to the way things were so that old people die… Even Trump is looking at a gradual and graduated reopening.

But there are valid concerns about what is happening to our economy and those being hurt by this count too. We need to take into account all aspects of what is happening and not act like we can keep this up until we have all been vaccinated.
 
josie_L . . . .
I don’t think this one shoe fits all scenario is good nor should we forget to take into consideration the consequences of what a prolonged quarantine would have on society if the risks are rather much lower than we thought?
There is another side to this after all.
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@dvdjs . . . .
Who, apart form the builders of straw men, have suggested that there isn’t?
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@Melterboy2 . . .
My own feeling is that you either lock down the whole country, lock down the whole state, OR do not lock down the whole country or the whole state.
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DENNYINMI . . .
I guess the only way to think about it is that the Democrats are worried about lives lost to this virus, and the Republicans are worried more for the economy…the only thing that makes any sense because there is nothing else.
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Someone else could just as well say . . . .
I guess the only way to think about it is that the Democrats are worried about lives lost to this virus, and the Republicans are worried more for the lost to this virus AND the economy…the only thing that makes any sense because there is nothing else.
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josie_L said:
Why can’t we seek to do both? Is it really impossible?
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Isn’t that what the government is doing? It’s people who are out protesting with their guns on show and publicly flouting social distancing to blow off any sort of restrictions that we have to push back against.
 
Isn’t that what the citizens who want to be free are doing? It’s people who are germ-shaming others, do as I say not as I do exempting themselves, possible politician unaccountable insider trading magnifying the misery of the people, governments protecting murder, out golfing taking an entourage of secret service people with them, ignoring their own directives while threatening citizens with their citations, arrests, and guns on show and publicly flouting stay at home “laws” while their wives are apparently off to Florida to blow off any sort of restrictions that we have to push back against.
 
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Annie said:
But there are valid concerns about what is happening to our economy and those being hurt by this count too.
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We would agree, point being is that some concerns are more valid than the economy, nonetheless an economy that can support a health care system with appropriate equipment in the middle of a pandemic, and an economy that can care for those without health care so the spread can stop and we can safely enjoy shopping at that local shop with the best coffee in town.

It’s priorities.

A democratic IRA portfolio isn’t faring much better than a republicans, however the concerns surrounding the pandemic are startling. Health compromised and the elderly still vote. Just a thought.
 
You begin assigning evil intent, then
work backwards to the evil plan.
 
The assumption seems to be that Democrats are content ( happy) to loose life savings so Biden can win.
 

SYMPTOMS​

Downward trajectory of influenza-like illnesses (ILI) reported within a 14-day period

AND

Downward trajectory of covid-like syndromic cases reported within a 14-day period

This is the first of a 3 phase plan to re-open America for the states from the White House in cooperation with health care advise. It is on the CDC website.

I do know MI hasn’t met the above as have not other states.
Trump wants it both ways, I’ve said it before, he can talk from both sides of his mouth covering his bases, (his bases, no pun, haha)……He makes his base happy when leaves it to the states and talks up reopening, but keeps the safe policy in place to protect himself from being responsible for harm/death.

Blindly shooting arrows and eventually you’ll hit your mark.

Reckless at best.
 
DENNYINMI said:
economy that can care for those without health care so the spread can stop
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So, I thought the point of the quarantine was to slow things down so hospitals would not be overwhelmed as in Italy… but that we also do need to develop herd immunity like Sweden?

Because it seems to me that if we do not develop herd immunity, then we will be quarantined until we can all get vaccinated, which is definitely a ways down the road.
DENNYINMI said:
we can safely enjoy shopping at that local shop with the best coffee in town.
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See, the problem with the economy is not that we can’t sip cappuccino… the problem with the economy is that, for example, food supply lines are falling apart. People are destroying the investments they made in products because they can’t afford to maintain them. Suppliers who used to deliver 50# bags of flour don’t have the capacity to bag smaller bags of flour for grocery stores, which is why we can currently buy bread, but I haven’t seen flour for weeks.

Gradually everything will fall apart more and more the longer this goes on. And you won’t be able to sip your cappuccino because the owner of the coffee shop won’t be able to get anything.
 
StudentMI . . .
This type of language helps no one. It just distorts reality.
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Go back and read the post before me and you will realize that was part of my point.

It was a rhetorical answer with exactly the same tone, but different victims.

If you REALLY think that, please show me your posts stating the same thing to that poster. Otherwise, my conclusion from your actions is going to be . . .

This type of language is fine for people left of you Cathoholic. But if this type of language is used on behalf of a conservative viewpoint (at least by Cathoholic’s), this type of language helps no one. It just distorts reality.

Go ahead and link to your posts where you said anything like that. I’ll be waiting.
 
Maximus1 . . .
The assumption seems to be that Democrats are content ( happy) to loose life savings so Biden can win.
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No it’s not. You have already admitted (to @Dr_Meinheimer) that you can bypass this type of lockdown with your career.

You have an income source.

Other democrats (not all) are perfectly happy getting government checks monthly and becoming wards of the state.

Others walkaway.

Others haven’t thought it through because the fake news industrial complex obscures what is happening.

Others just think it’ll be OK because it has always been OK and we can put our hope in Government.

Your argument is a strawman.
 
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“I admitted?”
When?
Apparently someone telling people in Oklahoma some media telling people it is OK not to wear masks has people threatening to use guns.
I know it isn’t MSM telling people that.
Whatever consideration we had for neighbors seems going fast. Sounds more like an enemy using the airwaves instead of bullets to me.
 
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