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It wouldn’t be scrapped.

Those who feel the need to go confess to a priest, can still do so.

However, everyone’s sins would be absolved at the beginning of Mass and there wouldn’t be people receiving who haven’t been to confession in years.

I rarely see people not go up to receive Communion at Mass, and just as rare, is to see other people going to Confession on Saturdays like my wife and myself do on a regular basis.

Jim
 
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It wouldn’t be scrapped.

Those who feel the need to go confess to a priest, can still do so.

However, everyone’s sins would be absolved at the beginning of Mass and there wouldn’t be people receiving who haven’t been to confession in years.

I rarely see people not go up to receive Communion at Mass, and just as rare, is to see other people going to Confession on Saturdays like my wife and myself do on a regular basis.

Jim
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But Jim, the Penitential Act at the Introductory Rite at Mass does not absolve mortal sins. It only absolves venial ones.
 
The bottom line is, I’ve had more bad confessors as of late than good one’s.

My last two confessions were to priests from Spanish speaking countries.

Both grilled my wife and myself, which Pope Francis has spoken against.

Jim
 
I know, that’s why I’m saying the Church should allow General Absolution at that part of the Mass.

I don’t see it happening in my life time.

However, right now, going to Confession right now is uncomfortable, and my wife and myself have always made Confession a regular part of our spiritual life.

Jim
 
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The bottom line is, I’ve had more bad confessors as of late than good one’s.

My last two confessions were to priests from Spanish speaking countries.

Both grilled my wife and myself, which Pope Francis has spoken against.

Jim
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Sorry you have experienced that. In my entire life, I’ve only had one bad confessor, and his only “crime” was being a little too blunt with me (not including the one who wouldn’t hear my confession - I have never confessed to him before)

I’ve always had great confessors. Even the one Cuban priest who I went to at a Shrine in Miami who was shocked that I was confessing in English!

God Bless
 
Well, for the first centuries, private confession was prohibited by the Pope.

So, it’s not like it’s never been done.

Jim
 
For the most part, until a few years ago, we usually had good confessors.

It’s just the past 5 years or so, we’re getting bad confessors.

Jim
 
I’m not sure it would trivialize it more than it’s being currently treated.

I have no doubt people are receiving Holy Communion once or perhaps twice a year, Christmas and Easter.

Are they in a state of mortal sin ?

According to literal Church teaching, yes the are.

Jim
 
He is basically saying that all sin becomes like venial sin. No need for Sacramental Confession, just show up at Mass for the “I Confess” (which removes venial sin).
 
There would still be a need for Confession as there will be those who want spiritual counseling.

Jim
 
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General Absolution
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JimR-OCDS said:
I know, that’s why I’m saying the Church should allow General Absolution at that part of the Mass.

I don’t see it happening in my life time.

However, right now, going to Confession right now is uncomfortable, and my wife and myself have always made Confession a regular part of our spiritual life.

Jim
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OK, but the General Absolution Rite is for extreme situations:

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In regards to your confession, I pray you can find another priest to confess to. I feel bad that you have a priest who is not a good confessor.

God bless
 
That did not mean that individual, Sacramental Confession did not happen. It means that you got to get up in front of the congregation and tell them the kind and number of your sins.
 
Right now it’s allowed in extreme cases, but I’m saying, make it the norm.

Don’t panic, I’m not the Pope and not so naive as to believe that anything I saw is listened to by the Vatican. 😉

Jim
 
Confession is repenting to God first and foremost

The Catechism itself begins with “Only God Forgives Sin,” in bold print.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Well, for the first centuries, private confession was prohibited by the Pope.

So, it’s not like it’s never been done.

Jim
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I could be wrong, but I think the “public confessions” were where everyone would hear your sins and hear the priest grant you absolution. Not where you would confess quietly in your heart and everyone receive absolution together.

Again, I could be wrong, but I don’t think the ancient Church was doing the equivalent of the Rite of General Absolution.
 
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There were only three sins which required confession before the Congregation in the early Church.

The main one was apostasy, where the believer rejected his/her faith in order to avoid persecution.

All other sins, the person repented directly to God.

Jim
 
Currently, priests are not suppose to provide much counseling at confession.

They do and it’s why the OP of this thread probably could get his confession in.

As it was, on Divine Mercy Sunday, the priests was taking 20 minutes grill(counseling) penitents, even though there was a line of ten people and only an hour for confession before Benediction started.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
There were only three sins which required confession before the Congregation in the early Church.

The main one was apostasy, where the believer rejected his/her faith in order to avoid persecution.

All other sins, the person repented directly to God.

Jim
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But Jesus also said, “Whatever sins you forgive are forgiven, and whatever sins you retain are retained.”

Jesus wanted us to confess our sins to priests.

In the early church, they were baptizing people sometimes by the thousands. So I’m sure there was a point where they didn’t have enough priests.

Plus, it was dangerous to be Christian.

So perhaps, they were doing the Rite of General Absolution more often. 🤔
 
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JimR-OCDS said:
Currently, priests are not suppose to provide much counseling at confession.

They do and it’s why the OP of this thread probably could get his confession in.

As it was, on Divine Mercy Sunday, the priests was taking 20 minutes grill(counseling) penitents, even though there was a line of ten people and only an hour for confession before Benediction started.
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I agree with this… nothing worse than waiting for confession and ever single person is taking 10-20 minutes.
 
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