dont most schools now have anti-bullying rules…I know my sons schools do and if you are found guilty you are expelled!
Why expel someone for bullying? Why not teach them not to bully?
Well IMHO schools that I pay tuition for, should be allowed to weed out students…either you are up to the standard set or your not!Why expel someone for bullying? Why not teach them not to bully?
Schools are not for weeding out “bad” students.
I’m not trying to say that bullying is acceptable, at all. But I would say that “zero tolerance” policies in high school might apply to rape or murder, but ought not apply to things like bullying. Many bullies may have more potential to build God’s kingdom than quieter kids, if only they were directed by a wise and godly leader.Well IMHO schools that I pay tuition for, should be allowed to weed out students…either you are up to the standard set or your not!
The kids are expelled for many reasons…bullying being one of them …they are expelled beacuase that is not allowed and not tolerated in the school, the school has a 0% policy regarding bullying…I think it is a wonderful idea!
What? Bullying can take severe forms if left unpunished. Can also emotionally impact the bullied child.Why expel someone for bullying? Why not teach them not to bully?
Schools are not for weeding out “bad” students.
Well…this is where you and I will have to respectfully disagree. I find the schools policy totally acceptable!
And again…hmmm. You are saying that bullies are actually nicer people than the quiet child?
If he was my son, I would tell him to turn the other cheek. The bully isn’t worth even thinking about. If the boy wants to learn ways of fighting back he needs to be taught some and the parent is resonsible for getting that done. It will only help him to know how to defend himself even if he doesn’t use it. I also would be all over the administration at the school. There is a chance that would backfire in some ways, but they need to know and they need to know we don’t like it. A lot of our children’s lives are spent in schools and the schools have to take on the responsiblity for our children’s safety while they have them under their care.
Well, bullies sometimes don’t stop at bullying other children. I have known many kids who were “troubled” and if a teacher was tough on them (challenging them or giving them a zero b/c they didn’t do their work) the student would call (and tell the higher ups inthe school as well as their peers) the teacher a racist, sexist, pervert, or would say that the teacher touched them inappropriately (if the teacher touched them on the shoulder so that they would sit down and discontinue being disruptive) or said something inappropriate to the student (by calling the student “honey” or “dear” or “sweetheart” as many do of a certain generation). So, a kid that is nasty b/c s/he’s having a bad day is one thing, a kid who seems to have a lot of bad days and physically and/or emotionally beats up on and/or manipulates another student or a teacher to get his/her way (or so that the bad shadow is no longer cast on them) needs special attention that most private schools and many public schools are not equiped to handel. If the parents aren’t getting their children help, then the school has every right to expel the student. I believe private schools tolerate a lot more than public schools (at least in my experience).Why expel someone for bullying? Why not teach them not to bully?
Schools are not for weeding out “bad” students.
Actually I think you have it backwards…most private schools tolerate less than the public schools. Public schools HAVE to take your kids private schools dont.
**Schools are not for weeding out anyone. Schools are for teaching children. How well can a student learn, if some bully is making his life a misery?Why expel someone for bullying? Why not teach them not to bully?
Of course teaching a bully to reform is better: but what of cases in which a bully refuses to quit, in spite of repeated attempts to teach them better behavior? Are we to allow them to go on tormenting the other students forever?
Schools are not for weeding out “bad” students.
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Maybe its just the inner city private schools I’ve dealt with then that seem to have a high tolerance level (and have accepted kids who were expelled from their public school)
What a horrible thing to say. I was/still somewhat am a “shy” person; I was bullied tremendously back in junior high, to the point where I was almost truant because I didn’t want to go to school and be bullied all day long. Now, what happened to these kids in the Catholic school that I went to? Absolutely nothing. They never got in trouble, and it was seen as MY problem (they suggested that I needed counseling to deal with it).
How is it a horrible thing to say? Sometimes being shy (that is, not doing some good that involves speaking) is sinful. I was very shy in high school, and I consider my shyness rooted in my own self-centeredness and sin. We’re all sinners.
Isn’t that what zero-tolerance means? I agree that a student who has proved himself an inveritable bully ought to be expelled. But “zero-tolerance” seems to be saying much more.
Yeah “zero tolerance” says WE WILL NOT TOLERATE this behaviour! Why is that such a hard concept to understand? YOur telling me a highschool age childs parents “never” knew that their kid had a bullying problem/issue? They had ample time, chances to seek treatment for their kid, IMHO, and I dont think that my kid or his classmates (highschoolers) should have to suffer with a bully more than once!
Loving the sinner has nothing to do with not punishing them. Sometimes that is how we will love them best. Spare the rod, spoil the child kind of thinking.