TV show with a gay couple?

[Canes]

Tchaikovsky’s music is pretty lush, but not overtly gay.

I would listen to overtly gay classical music, simply because any composer who could make classical music conform to sexual preference must be a virtuoso of staggering ability.

I am really opposed to this almost fundamentalist attack on homosexuals as some deviant horrors whose actions, talents, and artistic endeavours are somehow evil.

We are all sinners living in glass houses and we must respect the talents and accomplishment of every person regardless of sexual orientation. Who are we to class them as sinners? As the Pope says “Who am I to judge?”

Firstly, homosexuals are deviant; and secondly His Holiness actually said:

If a person is gay and seeks the Lord and is of good will, who am I to judge?

I actually laugh at Modern Family.

As do I, being deeply amused by the antics of the gay couple on the show. I think that we all need to take a step back and realise that homosexual relationships are normal. They may not be good, as the people within them are active homosexuals, which is bad, but like it or not homosexual relationships are normal in our society and have been for a long time now. Denying that will not help anything.

 

[mikekle]

I think its wrong that the creators of Tv shows and movies feel they must put certain things in shows and movies for the sole purpose of trying to make people see what is ‘normal’ and what they should accept and what they should not…since when did Hollywood become the great teacher of what people should act like and what opinions they should hold? LOL

I dont remember this being the case in the 70s or 80s, Ive watched plenty of shows and movies from that time period and I dont recall seeing any evidence of the creators trying to sway peoples beliefs about any particular things, In fact I kind of liked movies and shows from this time period anyway, every single line was not overly scrutinized by special interest groups, to make sure it was ‘PC’ for anyone that sees it! LOL

btw, since when did Hollywood start caring what people thought about them or what kind of things they put on the screen…arent they well known for ‘bucking’ societies norms?Seems to me like todays norm is conforming to everyone and everything!

 

[John_Savage]

Well, the other side knows how to play this game. Duck Dynasty? Also, the cooking lady who used a racist word 30 years ago or something (I’m against racism too, but sheesh) . Would they tolerate a heroic character opposed to homosexuality? Would they say, “so what? It’s just a show.” Of course not.

 

[CesarAugustus]

I think is better to avoid shows or productions that try to normalize homosexuality, or push lgbt agenda (same sex “marriage”, adoption by homosexual couples, etc).

 

[Mike_Dye]

While we must remember that each person is made in the image and likeness of God and therefore deserves to be treated with respect; we are also directed to admonish the sinner. I think we should actively avoid any program that promotes a homosexual lifestyle as well as any program that promotes any immorality. Unfortunately that rules out most of prime time TV. Not only should we avoid watching such programs but should share our opinions with the sponsors, and producers of such programs. If you don’t think protesting such shows works, just ask A&E.

 

[kozlosap]

I run into a similar situation on some of the programs on HGTV. If the episode is about a SSM couple, I change the channel. I will return to the channel at a later time/date, but only to watch episodes that do not offend me or my faith.

DGB

Are you building a bunker in your house where you can sit and not have yourself or your “faith” confronted by actions and art that upset you? Its a darn good thing that our Lord didn’t have your mindset. The Church has never indicated that being a gay human being offends her, its the sin of adultery both gay and STRAIGHT that she preaches against. I find wackos walking around carrying guns in schools, churches and movie theaters much more offensive and dangerous.

 

[CesarAugustus]

Part three
Life in christ

Section one
Man’s vocation life in the spirit

Chapter one
The dignity of the human person

Article 8
Sin

1867 the catechetical tradition also recalls that there are “sins that cry to heaven”: The blood of abel,139 the sin of the sodomites,140 the cry of the people oppressed in egypt,141 the cry of the foreigner, the widow, and the orphan,142 injustice to the wage earner.143

catholic.com/quickquestions/what-are-sins-that-cry-to-heaven-for-vengeance-and-sins-against-the-holy-spirit

 

[CesarAugustus]

While we must remember that each person is made in the image and likeness of God and therefore deserves to be treated with respect; we are also directed to admonish the sinner. I think we should actively avoid any program that promotes a homosexual lifestyle as well as any program that promotes any immorality. Unfortunately that rules out most of prime time TV. Not only should we avoid watching such programs but should share our opinions with the sponsors, and producers of such programs. If you don’t think protesting such shows works, just ask A&E.

I agree. Is not that difficult to avoid these shows.

 

[Kamaduck]

You will find that as time goes on you will have a harder and harder time avoiding this type of thing. The homosexual lobby group GLAAD tracked the following stats, released last fall: tvguide.com/news/glaad-lgbt-characters-1071960.aspx

In the Network Responsibility Index, which looks back at the 2012-2013 TV season, Fox lead the way for being LGBT inclusive with 42 percent of primetime programming hours having included LGBT characters, followed by ABC with 33 percent. Fox was also lauded for including the first transgender series regular with Unique (Alex Newell) on Glee.

On cable, ABC Family topped with 50 percent, followed by FX with 40 percent. The History Channel received a failing grade with no LGBT images on any of its shows last season.
According to this study, the nationwide average of homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual people in this country is 3.5%

So if 3.5% of the population have this condition, then why in the world would it be appropriate for 42% of primetime programming (Fox) or 50% of primetime programming (ABC Family) need to have homosexual characters?

You don’t think there might be a bit of social engineering going on here, do you?

By all means, watch whatever you want to watch. But if you want to avoid this program because it had a couple of lesbians getting measured for their (blech) wedding dresses, you also better be careful to avoid a good chunk of home improvement programs, pretty much every kind of fashion program, and, by surveys, a huge percentage of all primetime programming. You aren’t going to get around it.

You can expect the percentage of charcaters and themes to increase over time until the average American believe that over 50% of the population is homosexual. (At least as of 2011, the average American man **believes **that 19.2% of the population is gay and the average American woman **believes **that 29.7% of the population is gay)

If you’re including guest characters here, that sounds plenty accurate to me. Let’s say each show features 30 characters over the course of a season (which sounds pretty low-to-normal to me). That means that if television were to accurately represent US demographics, there would be an average of one non-heterosexual character per program. The fact that they appear on most shows would certainly not mean that most characters are gay, because there are many characters on each show.

I don’t disagree with your idea that we should avoid shows that promote immorality, but I don’t think 42% of shows having a character with SSA would constitute “social engineering”.

 

[Tenofovir]

If you’re including guest characters here, that sounds plenty accurate to me.

The problem with US TV shows is that most of them suck. Yes there are the occasional gems such as True Detective or Bates Motel and perhaps just perhaps The Following because of Kevin Bacon. But most sitcoms for one, are just terribly bad. I can’t even watch them. And we get so much of your culture it really sucks. Thankfully I can turn to some anime or European shows… or at the very least the occasional good show such as True Detective. Shows like NCIS, CIS, Law and Order, and that show with that blonde dude who drives around in a MB S500 with that woman FBI agent - some List thing or another — they just plainly suck!

What happened to Sanford and Son or Married With Children? Just garbage these days.

 

[Kamaduck]

The problem with US TV shows is that most of them suck. Yes there are the occasional gems such as True Detective or Bates Motel and perhaps just perhaps The Following because of Kevin Bacon. But most sitcoms for one, are just terribly bad. I can’t even watch them. And we get so much of your culture it really sucks. Thankfully I can turn to some anime or European shows… or at the very least the occasional good show such as True Detective. Shows like NCIS, CIS, Law and Order, and that show with that blonde dude who drives around in a MB S500 with that woman FBI agent - some List thing or another — they just plainly suck!

What happened to Sanford and Son or Married With Children? Just garbage these days.

I wouldn’t know. Other than the very occassional NCIS episode, I watch almost no live action American television that’s less than ten years old- so I suppose I agree that none of it looks terribly interesting. I just object to equating “most tv shows have gay characters” with “most tv characters are gay”.

 

[markomalley]

If you’re including guest characters here, that sounds plenty accurate to me. Let’s say each show features 30 characters over the course of a season (which sounds pretty low-to-normal to me). That means that if television were to accurately represent US demographics, there would be an average of one non-heterosexual character per program. The fact that they appear on most shows would certainly not mean that most characters are gay, because there are many characters on each show.

I don’t disagree with your idea that we should avoid shows that promote immorality, but I don’t think 42% of shows having a character with SSA would constitute “social engineering”.

You didn’t read that correctly. The quote said: 42 percent of primetime programming hours

In other words, for every 100 hours of primetime television broadcast on Fox, 42 of those hours would have included one or more homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual characters onscreen.

 

[Kamaduck]

You didn’t read that correctly. The quote said: 42 percent of primetime programming hours

In other words, for every 100 hours of primetime television broadcast on Fox, 42 of those hours would have included one or more homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual characters onscreen.

Oh, my bad. That does seem rather excessive.

 

[DoGodsBidding]

Are you building a bunker in your house where you can sit and not have yourself or your “faith” confronted by actions and art that upset you? Its a darn good thing that our Lord didn’t have your mindset. The Church has never indicated that being a gay human being offends her, its the sin of adultery both gay and STRAIGHT that she preaches against. I find wackos walking around carrying guns in schools, churches and movie theaters much more offensive and dangerous.

No bunker, but a remote control. If House Hunters has two men holding hands and talking about their bedroom, I change the channel. I don’t watch Bill Maher and Family Guy because of their negative comments towards religion, Christianity and Catholicism.
As far as your comment about our Lord not having my mindset, I am not sure what you read into my comment to make such a comment but it was not a nice thing to say.

DGB

 

[BlueEyedLady]

You will find that as time goes on you will have a harder and harder time avoiding this type of thing. The homosexual lobby group GLAAD tracked the following stats, released last fall: tvguide.com/news/glaad-lgbt-characters-1071960.aspx

In the Network Responsibility Index, which looks back at the 2012-2013 TV season, Fox lead the way for being LGBT inclusive with 42 percent of primetime programming hours having included LGBT characters, followed by ABC with 33 percent. Fox was also lauded for including the first transgender series regular with Unique (Alex Newell) on Glee.

On cable, ABC Family topped with 50 percent, followed by FX with 40 percent. The History Channel received a failing grade with no LGBT images on any of its shows last season.
According to this study, the nationwide average of homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual people in this country is 3.5%

So if 3.5% of the population have this condition, then why in the world would it be appropriate for 42% of primetime programming (Fox) or 50% of primetime programming (ABC Family) need to have homosexual characters?

You don’t think there might be a bit of social engineering going on here, do you?

By all means, watch whatever you want to watch. But if you want to avoid this program because it had a couple of lesbians getting measured for their (blech) wedding dresses, you also better be careful to avoid a good chunk of home improvement programs, pretty much every kind of fashion program, and, by surveys, a huge percentage of all primetime programming. You aren’t going to get around it.

You can expect the percentage of charcaters and themes to increase over time until the average American believe that over 50% of the population is homosexual. (At least as of 2011, the average American man **believes **that 19.2% of the population is gay and the average American woman **believes **that 29.7% of the population is gay)

Your link completely disproves your point.

In the first paragraph it states that 3.3% of recurring, scripted characters are gay. That’s perfectly reflective of the real world!

As for 42 out of every 100 hours having a gay character show up on screen? How many of us have gay, recurring characters in our own lives? Probably more than 42%. Gay characters don’t dominate 42 hours out of every hundred, they just make an appearance at least once in 42 hours out of every 100.

 

[markomalley]

Your link completely disproves your point.

In the first paragraph it states that 3.3% of recurring, scripted characters are gay. That’s perfectly reflective of the real world!

As for 42 out of every 100 hours having a gay character show up on screen? How many of us have gay, recurring characters in our own lives? Probably more than 42%. Gay characters don’t dominate 42 hours out of every hundred, they just make an appearance at least once in 42 hours out of every 100.

I can’t speak for anybody else, but as for me, I live and work in the most heavily “LGBT” populated area in the country (DC). Out of the 78 people who work for me, exactly three are homosexual (two lesbians and one gay man) (and, oh, by the way, no…I could not possibly care less one way or the other about it – I keep my personal views on the subject out of the workplace because it is irrelevant). I talk to one of them on the phone about once a week for an hour – that’s 2.5% of the time. I may see the other two, maybe, once a month…and then only for 10-15 minutes at a time. (that’s about 0.1% of the work month).

I realistically would imagine that most people elsewhere in the country would have far less interaction, as most places in the country have far smaller percentages than Washington, DC (10%). Of course, that is dependent upon their industry…

 

[on_the_hill]

Did you know that most authorities agree that Michelangelo was either gay, or bisexual. So, I guess you won’t be going to the Vatican any time soon.

And he also used nude models. Which gives me two reasons. Thank you.

I’m kidding. I wouldn’t avoid Tschaikowsky because of his rumored homosexuality. I was just curious about what others thought.

 

[Kamaduck]

I can’t speak for anybody else, but as for me, I live and work in the most heavily “LGBT” populated area in the country (DC). Out of the 78 people who work for me, exactly three are homosexual (two lesbians and one gay man) (and, oh, by the way, no…I could not possibly care less one way or the other about it – I keep my personal views on the subject out of the workplace because it is irrelevant). I talk to one of them on the phone about once a week for an hour – that’s 2.5% of the time. I may see the other two, maybe, once a month…and then only for 10-15 minutes at a time. (that’s about 0.1% of the work month).

I realistically would imagine that most people elsewhere in the country would have far less interaction, as most places in the country have far smaller percentages than Washington, DC (10%). Of course, that is dependent upon their industry…

I dunno. I only know of two non-straight people that I have regular interaction with, but I see both of them every weekday and one of them is a fairly close friend. If my current life were a tv show, he’d probably be in most of the episodes.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

I can’t speak for anybody else, but as for me, I live and work in the most heavily “LGBT” populated area in the country (DC). Out of the 78 people who work for me, exactly three are homosexual (two lesbians and one gay man) (and, oh, by the way, no…I could not possibly care less one way or the other about it – I keep my personal views on the subject out of the workplace because it is irrelevant). I talk to one of them on the phone about once a week for an hour – that’s 2.5% of the time. I may see the other two, maybe, once a month…and then only for 10-15 minutes at a time. (that’s about 0.1% of the work month).

I realistically would imagine that most people elsewhere in the country would have far less interaction, as most places in the country have far smaller percentages than Washington, DC (10%). Of course, that is dependent upon their industry…

I think you might be surprised to find out that more people in your life are gay than you realize.

You really have no gay friends or relatives? No one in your spouse’s family? Neighbors? Your doctor/lawyer/dentist/mailman? I have 2 lesbians in my family, one in my immediate family and the other is my niece. My husband has two gay relatives, only one of them is out to the family. I have several gay friends, my husband’s boss is gay, and of course I have many gay classmates-but that’s just due to the fact that it’s a large program. While gay people may be overrepresented in my life, I also believe they’re underrepresented in yours. Everyone I know IRL has at least one gay person in their life, and even on these boards posters frequently share stories of the many gay people in their lives. (I’m not talking about the threads started about gays, I’m talking about the many posters who respond to those threads with “My ________ is gay”. Or “I have a gay ______”. Just the fact that over three percent of the population is gay means that most people will have a gay person in their closest circles (work/family/social/school).

 

[esieffe]

I don’t see anything wrong with adults watching it. If it doesn’t bother you.