Twins marry by mistake

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A MARRIED couple have had their union annulled - after discovering they were twins.The twins were separated at birth and not told they had any siblings. They were adopted by different families, and - amazingly - as adults they met, fell in love and married.The High Court ruled the marriage had never been valid and annulled it.

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If same sex couples can marry then why not siblings?:rolleyes:
That’s a totally valid question. We’re constantly told that it’s “not fair” to deny people w/ same sex attraction the “right” to have sex and marry those they “love”. These 2 people (the twins), not knowing they were related, fell in love and are obviously sexually attracted to each other. How is it “fair” to deny them sexual relations and all the benefits of marriage? Afterall, they aren’t going to be able to just turn off their feelings or desires, just because a judge ruled their marriage invalid, and the law says sexual relations b/t them is illegal. Sure, their offspring could have serious genetic problems, perhaps making their relations unfruitful. So they can adopt, or do artificial insemination or IVF. JUST LIKE GAY COUPLES. There is no difference. You can’t have it both ways.

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Ellen
 
There was once a story (modern folklore?) a number of years ago about a brother and sister who were adopted by different families who discovered their relationship but couldn’t get the state to open the adoption records. So they announced to the social service agency their intention to marry. As the agency personnel involved knew the contents of the closed records they were in a position of allowing an incestuous marriage or opening the files that were sealed by state law. They had to break the law one way or another.

Did these twins really marry by mistake? Or was there another motive entirely?

Matthew
 
This situation, if genuine, demonstrates the improper way in which modern society handles marriage. Two people meet, determine that the other suits their own shallow tastes and then believe that this self-centered vantage constitutes an appropriate foundation upon which to build a marriage and rear children. It is a grave and life-changing decision made, not objectively, but on the fleeting passions of the moment.

Formerly, one’s parents arranged one’s marriage. This setup effectively prevented situations like the one above. It made for less divorce and same-sex marriage was unthinkable. One’s parents were able to look into the lives of potential matches and determine the appropriateness of each one. Something like blood relation could not possibly go unnoticed.

Arranging marriages would do much to solve the problems we face with the family in today’s society. Marriage would become less about one’s own wish fulfillment and more about the duty one owes to society, the Church and God.
 
Yeah, but there’s a flipside to that too.

Do you think it is okay for a 20 year old woman to be married to a 60 year old man because he has money and their families want the marriage to happen for their own selfish reasons?

Do you think it is okay for the parents of a young man who thinks he may have a vocation to the priesthood to push him towards marriage?

Do you think it is healthy to marry (and be expected to have sex with) someone you hardly know?

I mean, it wouldn’t be too horrid if all parents were to truly have their kids best interests at heart and to consult them and try to make it someone they would be happy with, etc. But, not everyone is a good parent…not every parent does have their children’s best interests at heart.

Both situations have their benefits and issues.
 
One’s parents were able to look into the lives of potential matches and determine the appropriateness of each one. Something like blood relation could not possibly go unnoticed.
Unless of course blood relations were not known, as is sometimes the case for adopted children.
 
Unless of course blood relations were not known, as is sometimes the case for adopted children.
I concede that this remains a possibility. It is, however, much more unlikely in an arranged marriage scenario. Typically the parents will arrange the marriage of their child with someone whom they know as such knowledge provides the surest means of assessment.
 
Yeah, but there’s a flipside to that too.

Do you think it is okay for a 20 year old woman to be married to a 60 year old man because he has money and their families want the marriage to happen for their own selfish reasons?

Do you think it is okay for the parents of a young man who thinks he may have a vocation to the priesthood to push him towards marriage?

Do you think it is healthy to marry (and be expected to have sex with) someone you hardly know?

I mean, it wouldn’t be too horrid if all parents were to truly have their kids best interests at heart and to consult them and try to make it someone they would be happy with, etc. But, not everyone is a good parent…not every parent does have their children’s best interests at heart.

Both situations have their benefits and issues.
Well, there is nothing humans can create on their own that does not go wrong at some time or in some place. We do not, for instance look to the death of Socrates or that memorable chant “give us Barabbas” and draw from these two miscarriages of justice the conclusion that democracy has issues and is best left untried. So, it is pointless to here attempt to argue that there exist no possibilities for abuse of arranged marriages. What we need to ask ourselves is whether this system is preferable to the one we have now.

That some parents are less than loving towards their children is as regrettable a reality as that those still in the early morning of their adult life tend to be unduly idealistic. The thing is that the latter is much more endemic than the former; youth will always, by the nature of their disposition, be predisposed to irrationality as a function of their inexperience but parents will not necessarily use their children towards their own ends. That parents know what is best for their children and can direct them towards it will always be more likely than that some twenty-something will be capable of inerrantly making some grave and life-changing decision.

As for the specific problems you have mentioned, like a marriage between two people who possess an extreme disparity in age or the propriety about sexual relations between a husband and wife who hardly know each other. As for the first, I think of it as an unlikely result for a person whose parents have his best interests at heart. In the second case, I see no problem with a husband and wife being expected to have sexual relations in the absence of familiarity, in fact, I see several advantages not the least of which is the reawakening of the idea that intercourse is a duty and a responsibility of marriage, not a recreational activity.

In all, it seems that the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks as concerns arranged marriages.
 
A MARRIED couple have had their union annulled - after discovering they were twins.The twins were separated at birth and not told they had any siblings. They were adopted by different families, and - amazingly - as adults they met, fell in love and married.The High Court ruled the marriage had never been valid and annulled it.

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A solution for this is to require all those that apply for a license to marry to have DNA tests done just like they at one time screened for sexually transmitted disease.
 
A solution for this is to require all those that apply for a license to marry to have DNA tests done just like they at one time screened for sexually transmitted disease.
Considering the number of marriages that occur every year and the know occurrence of this problem (once), I think it would be easier to just forget about it. Let’s not propose solutions in search of a problem. DNA is a slippery slope that could only lead to eugenics.

Just move on.

Nohome
 
I’m suprised this kind of thing doesn’t happen more often in this kind of situation.

People tend to be attracted to those of similar appearance, and if they don’t know who their blood relatives are, you’d expect it to happen occasionally.
 
I’m suprised this kind of thing doesn’t happen more often in this kind of situation.

People tend to be attracted to those of similar appearance, and if they don’t know who their blood relatives are, you’d expect it to happen occasionally.
That’s what I was thinking. One of my cousins actually went out on a few dates with a man who turned out to be a third cousin (or something, I never can keep track of all the “once-removed” things), from a branch of the family that we didn’t know well- I think our grandparents were cousins. Sure, that’s legal, but in a metropolitan area of 4 million+ people, somehow they found each other and were mutually attracted enough to date.

Consider sperm donation. A man makes his deposit, so to speak, at a clinic. That deposit can then be used to inseminate several women, likely all in the same general geographic area (near the clinic). So all of these children of the same bio father are growing up near each other, but none have any way of knowing that they might be related as the files are generally sealed. Since people are indeed often attracted to those like themselves…this could be a disaster waiting to happen. The first wave of sperm donor kids are becoming adults now. DNA testing to avoid close relative marriages might not be a bad idea.
 
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