Twitterpated with an SSPX girl...

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I took a girl to coffee recently, and I am just head-over-heels for her. Beautiful in heart, mind, and body; and her first kiss will be with her new husband (if she gets married). But she is strongly SSPX and I am quite strongly with the Magisterium. It breaks my heart because I can’t attend an SSPX Mass without internally obsessing with its implicit disobedience, and she’s more or less avowed never to attend a VatII Mass ever again (granted, she has had a more painful exposure to horrific Mass abuses than I ever had).

Probably nothing will come of this, and that makes me sad. But it gives me one powerful reason to pray for the reunion of SSPX with Rome.
 
Godefridus said:
I took a girl to coffee recently, and I am just head-over-heels for her. Beautiful in heart, mind, and body; and her first kiss will be with her new husband (if she gets married). But she is strongly SSPX and I am quite strongly with the Magisterium. It breaks my heart because I can’t attend an SSPX Mass without internally obsessing with its implicit disobedience, and she’s more or less avowed never to attend a VatII Mass ever again (granted, she has had a more painful exposure to horrific Mass abuses than I ever had).

Probably nothing will come of this, and that makes me sad. But it gives me one powerful reason to pray for the reunion of SSPX with Rome.
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It is sadder when I feel I get along better with some Lutherans than I do with some NO Catholics. It seems as if their hearts are in the right place at least. One Lutheran friend of mine when she comes into town wants me to take her to St. John Cantius all the time. Yet she’ll hit me on those indulgences. Oh well.
 
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If more people had your problem, we’d all be a bit better off.
I was recently in a relationship with a non-Catholic until it took me to realize it just would not work, that and a call to the Priesthood is silently deafening me.

I feel for you though. Are there not Indult Masses in your diocese to share with her every once in a while? Or a reverent Novus Ordo?

Perhaps take a day trip to the nearest metropolitan city, do a bit of research.

I hope all turns out well
God Bless
Mordocai
 
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Are there not Indult Masses in your diocese to share with her every once in a while?
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I second this question.

If there is an indult, every Sunday, then see if she will attend. Going to Mass + lunch after is the best date ever.

If she is so anti-VII that she thinks the current Church is crazy, then you don’t want her anyway. I am not a fan of a lot of things going on, but the gates will not prevail and all that good stuff. No use in dwelling on conspiracy theories. I’ll pray for you and her. 😃
 
Godefridus said:
I took a girl to coffee recently, and I am just head-over-heels for her. Beautiful in heart, mind, and body; and her first kiss will be with her new husband (if she gets married). But she is strongly SSPX and I am quite strongly with the Magisterium. It breaks my heart because I can’t attend an SSPX Mass without internally obsessing with its implicit disobedience, and she’s more or less avowed never to attend a VatII Mass ever again (granted, she has had a more painful exposure to horrific Mass abuses than I ever had).

Probably nothing will come of this, and that makes me sad. But it gives me one powerful reason to pray for the reunion of SSPX with Rome.
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Pray harder for her and for your future spouse (which may or may not be her) and take heart, there are others like her out their minus the SSPX issue. Marriage can be hard enough sometimes without a big conflict off the bat.
 
Now for most important question. Does she have sisters?

😃

I’m sorry I couldn’t resist. I’ve personally never met a woman of that fiber. So I sympathize with your frustration. Anyway, like what was mentioned earlier perhaps there is an indult mass you could both attend (and she should be at anyway)?

Anyway, it figures all the good women are either married or SSPX…

😛
 
Godefridus said:
I took a girl to coffee recently, and I am just head-over-heels for her. Beautiful in heart, mind, and body; and her first kiss will be with her new husband (if she gets married). But she is strongly SSPX and I am quite strongly with the Magisterium. It breaks my heart because I can’t attend an SSPX Mass without internally obsessing with its implicit disobedience, and she’s more or less avowed never to attend a VatII Mass ever again (granted, she has had a more painful exposure to horrific Mass abuses than I ever had).

Probably nothing will come of this, and that makes me sad. But it gives me one powerful reason to pray for the reunion of SSPX with Rome.
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This sounds like a fantastic problem to have if you ask me. I can’t imagine finding a woman whos only flaw is she is a devout traditional Catholic. Oh the horror. IMO you should quit complaining and thank God you ave found such a wonderful Catholic girl.
 
MarSarkees said:
This sounds like a fantastic problem to have if you ask me. I can’t imagine finding a woman whos only flaw is she is a devout traditional Catholic. Oh the horror. IMO you should quit complaining and thank God you ave found such a wonderful Catholic girl.
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I am in full agreement here.

She sounds worthy of more attention. I would not consider the SSPX affiliation enough of an impediment to get in my way!

Michael
 
Unfinished said:
I second this question.

If there is an indult, every Sunday, then see if she will attend. Going to Mass + lunch after is the best date ever.

😃
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You mean breakfast, don’t you? You’re on the right track though. 👍
 
The indult mass I go to is once on sunday at 1:00pm so it would be lunch for me lol.

There are weekday indult masses at 6:30 though.
 
Godefridus said:
I took a girl to coffee recently, and I am just head-over-heels for her. Beautiful in heart, mind, and body; and her first kiss will be with her new husband (if she gets married). But she is strongly SSPX and I am quite strongly with the Magisterium. It breaks my heart because I can’t attend an SSPX Mass without internally obsessing with its implicit disobedience, and she’s more or less avowed never to attend a VatII Mass ever again (granted, she has had a more painful exposure to horrific Mass abuses than I ever had).
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What??
You never heard of ECUMENATING?
Answer this, what would JPII tell ya to do?
He’d say ECUMENATE and kiss the '62 Missal.
So, just give the '62 Missal a good public kiss and stop worrying.
 
He’d say ECUMENATE and kiss the '62 Missal.
So, just give the '62 Missal a good public kiss and stop worrying.
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Except the fact that he’d never told anyone to kiss the '62 missal or anything else.😉
 
Godefridus said:
I took a girl to coffee recently, and I am just head-over-heels for her. Beautiful in heart, mind, and body; and her first kiss will be with her new husband (if she gets married). But she is strongly SSPX and I am quite strongly with the Magisterium. It breaks my heart because I can’t attend an SSPX Mass without internally obsessing with its implicit disobedience, and she’s more or less avowed never to attend a VatII Mass ever again (granted, she has had a more painful exposure to horrific Mass abuses than I ever had).

Probably nothing will come of this, and that makes me sad. But it gives me one powerful reason to pray for the reunion of SSPX with Rome.
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SSPX laity are Catholics.

Find an indult Mass, perhaps attend her SPPX Masses with her every once in a while (just not for your sunday obligation).

Eventually, if she loves you, she wont stay SSPX just so she can protest the conciliar Church. Hopefully, she may turn to the FSSP or ICRSS for her prefered liturgy.
 
Wonderful comments here. I may take the encouragement to heart. There is only one indult Mass where she is and it doesn’t fit her work schedule. Plus I believe she feels a filial loyalty to the SSPX which is more than just attending their Masses.

There was another detail I forgot to mention, which is that she is actively seeking a “conditional Confirmation” because she is not convinced her VatII rite Confirmation was valid. From an SSPX bishop. She is getting her catechesis from the SSPX (which isn’t wholly a bad thing). She is also going on an Ignatian retreat, again SSPX run.

The other kink in the gears is that she told me she wouldn’t get married except by an SSPX priest. A canon lawyer once told me that SSPX marriages are automatically invalid because the priest’s authority to witness a marriage is nil apart from the local ordinary’s permission. But I’ll bet that if we ever got serious, she wouldn’t mind compromising and being married in an indult Mass.

As far as me attending SSPX Mass with her sometimes, I’m still wary of the squirreliness going on with the PCED regarding the morality of a Catholic attending such a Mass. The 2003 letter doesn’t mention anything regarding receiving Communion. Seriously, I just wish that branch of the Holy See would get its act together and speak univocally as to the rights and responsibilities of Catholics vis-a-vis SSPX.
 
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