Two Hardcore Videoed EWTN Homilies on How to Dress/Act for Mass

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From EWTN. I really wonder what would happen if these were preached at my parish? Would people take the words to heart or would they whine/sulk/rebel/leave?



I think a bit more tact and smoothness would be appreciated, but at least these two priests have the resolve to speak about these matters. Worth a watch.
 
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PS. Everything i posted is perfectly okay to do in Mass.

There is nothing I said which is sinful. Maybe a bit inappropriate, but not sinful or unlawful.
 
It’s not.

It is however robotic arrogance to look down on people who fall short of your expectations. You should pity them, not pick on them.
 
Still wouldn’t be sinful.

Imprudent? Disrespectful? Inappropriate? Possibly.

Sinful? Not what I described.
 
And I think despising other people for what they wear is low.

How low can we go?
 
I don’t know where this priest is coming from, but there’s a world of difference between a dress that is “transparent” or shows your belly, and one that merely shows your arms or hits slightly above the knee. I realize that some churches require sleeves and knee length skirts, but to lump that in with a see through dress is just ridiculous. In today’s US society, bare arms are not considered sexy, or anything other than hot weather wear.

Edited to add, and yes I’m sick of this topic repeatedly coming up on here also. It’s pretty clear that everyone is never going to be in agreement. Find a church where people dress the way you like and go there. Let the rest of us do the same.
 
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I have only watched the first homily and not all of it. I get what he is saying, but isn’t he “preaching to the choir”?

The people at Mass at the EWTN chapel really don’t need to be hearing this, and the ones who do, I am pretty sure are not there.

One thing I did notice was that Father made a point of announcing someone’s birthday. I find it ironic that you would use this particular homily to discuss reverence and “right behavior” as the priest interjecting jokes, birthday/anniversary wishes, or anything that is not “Mass related” into a homily is usually one of the biggest “Is this an abuse?” questions/comments I see in these forums.

Just saying. 😏
 
CilladeRoma said:
I have only watched the first homily and not all of it. I get what he is saying, but isn’t he “preaching to the choir”?
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That was my first thought. My guess is that EWTN is the last place that would have such problems.
 
I listened to both videos and found them instructive regarding modesty and reverence.

Neither spoke of the Scripture readings of the day, but were enlightening even so.

I am concerned about the second homily’s suggestion (at video time 14:00) that priests gossip about women who dress like prostitutes. Sad. Jesus regarded prostitutes better than that, as we should.

I really liked the first Homily.
 
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Duesenberg said:
From EWTN. I really wonder what would happen if these were preached at my parish? Would people take the words to heart or would they whine/sulk/rebel/leave?
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Probably the latter. But it really transcends of just what people wear to Mass. There is a general dressing down of this society over the past 60 years or so. I have seen pictures of men in the stands of the 1960 World Series, dressed nice in ties and jackets- compare and contrast with the bummy attire of this years’ World Series audience.
 
Our culture prizes nothing but sensual pleasure and money. This is bound to be reflected in what people wear, as dress is the way in which people immediately see who you are. Modesty is a forgotten virtue!
 
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I don’t see it as a “modesty” issue, but more that people dress like bums nowadays, wearing athletic gear in inappropriate places - like church.
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Of course, what exactly constitutes dressing like a “bum” is a matter of opinion. Some are horrified if people show up in less than a suit and tie. Others believe that shorts can be appropriate, assuming they are modest. In addition, what is appropriate varies from culture to culture. In the US, the culture has changed, so dressing norms can change as well.
 
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I have seen pictures of men in the stands of the 1960 World Series, dressed nice in ties and jackets- compare and contrast with the bummy attire of this years’ World Series audience.
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We’ve been over this before and discussed the fact that in those days, the suit was the standard way a man dressed for any activity other than manual labor. It wasn’t that they were dressed up, it’s that their wardrobe for going anywhere but the mine, barn or field was a suit. Men now have many more fashion options and the suit has become a more formal choice.
 
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I beg to differ. People nowadays have no concern for scandalising others, and therefore dress like prostitutes.
 
That was their average day’s dress, because the culture back then prized modesty much more than we do.
 
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That was their average day’s dress, because the culture back then prized modesty much more than we do.
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But the problem is that one can be much more casual than a suit and still be very modest. Shorts and a t shirt can be modest.
 
I don’t typically see men “immodestly” dressed at Mass, unless you consider clothing like khakis or clean blue jeans and a plaid shirt, polo shirt, sweater or jacket to be revealing and immodest.
 
I don’t think that was the case.
I think that people didn’t have as many options as we do now.

And what do you consider “modest”?
I will agree that there are some things that should not be worn in certain situations, but I have no power over anyone but myself. Therefore, if I am scandalized by someone else’s dress, I think that says a whole lot more about me that it does the other person.
 
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