Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

[Convert_in_99]

I notice you didn’t put Bill Clinton in there. Nice!

Even if the accusations were all true, he’s no Bill Cosby or Bill Clinton. There is no rape accusation, only groping. Did tiger woods rape anybody? I don’t think so! Details really do matter in things like this.

But in any rate, these women have been debunked if people have the ear to hear.

Groping is rape! If you were his victim, you would think they were equally violating you.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Those of us who have been groped understand why someone might not make a fuss. You are embarrassed, you think you will be blamed because of the way you are dressed or where you are, you are young, you are afraid you will lose your job, you don’t want to embarrass their wife and family, you weren’t really hurt physically, you want to forget it happened, people will call you a liar, your reputation will be put up against his, your motives will be impugned, etc, etc, etc.

However, you never forget.

And, given the way people have talked about all of the accusations (on both sides), most women will continue to keep quiet when ‘upstanding’ men grope.

If that’s the case, women should either speak up right away (not 3 weeks before election), make a scene to protect themselves and get witnesses, or take self defense lessons to kick the guy in the you-know-what, or all the above.

 

[kozlosap]

The other Trump trait that is bothersome is his lack of intellectual curiosity. It’s beyond my comprehension that anyone running for President of the United States would not know what the term, nuclear triad, means. I understand, especially after having read other threads on CAF that deal with this election, that many members are one issue voters. I just can’t be a one issue voter.

 

[ProVobis]

They don’t want to hear,which is most unfortunate because those same people are also deaf and blind to the corrupt HC tapes being exposed daily.

Can you be more specific than just corrupt? Personally I would like to hear more about Goldman Sachs, where many people have invested money.

Bring on the tapes!!!

 

[Convert_in_99]

Although I am sure that Hillary would have used the studio bus and also the women who have tried to destroy Trump. Please remember Billy Bush a Democrat is a close Bush family member and the Bushes hate Trump, plus I have read the Bushes and Clintons are close friends.

They edited the tape and the only way one can be certain whether Trump just started this conversation or if Billy started it and Trump with his personality felt the need to one up Billy.

I asked my neighbor who is Mexican if 70% of men talk to each other like this and he laughed and said no 100% do. He is voting for Trump and he is a very intelligent man.

Also there are no witnesses among those women who conveniently came out all at once to verify their claims. The women with Bill Clinton at least had some witnesses and the young intern, not sure of her name, had his semen on her dress.

The GOP establishment, media and most Democrats have been after Trump from the beginning, he didn’t start the war, they did, each with their own agenda.

If people want no changes, except partial birth abortion, removal of 2nd amendment and also the 1st amendment and Supreme Court Judges who will destroy the constitution then vote for Hillary or a 3rd part candidate.

Trump is not a politician and is probably closer to the average male, oh I know every man on websites say they are pure as the driven snow, but to be honest we are all sinners with human defects. Remember that Christ chose Paul who was killing Christians to be with Him and Paul/Saul became an apostle and saint. God uses sinners as instruments for His own purpose, so who knows if this is the case.

Let us not be judging and condemning a person because they are not perfect and others make accusations before there is proof. We do have courts that decide a person’s guilt and this is not an offense against America. We are all accountable for our own actions and will ourselves be judged by Christ Himself.

Bernadette

Wow! Just WOW! :dts:

 

[sallybutler]

If that’s the case, women should either speak up right away (not 3 weeks before election), make a scene to protect themselves and get witnesses, or take self defense lessons to kick the guy in the you-know-what, or all the above.

Thank you for suggesting that any woman who did not immediately take out a ‘groper’ does not deserve to complain. You prove my point.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I just got off the phone with a pollster. My answers were certainly not pro-Hillary, and I wouldn’t vote for her even if she were pro-life.

But I have this growing concern about Trump’s negotiating our national debt, which would have worldwide implications not necessarily in the US favor.

I have a LOT of concerns about Trump. Moral AND National concerns (really actually global concerns when you think of it.). Hence why I won’t vote for him.

AND THATS NOT BECAUSE I AM VOTING FOR HILLARY before anyone puts words in my mouth.

I don’t know what has gotten into the water to make people love Trump but it’s not just on CAF it’s everywhere. Maybe it’s his ads? Subliminal messages maybe? :hypno:

 

[exnihilo]

Groping is rape! If you were his victim, you would think they were equally violating you.

Groping is wrong but it isn’t rape. To equate the two is to lessen the seriousness of rape.

The other Trump trait that is bothersome is his lack of intellectual curiosity. It’s beyond my comprehension that anyone running for President of the United States would not know what the term, nuclear triad, means. I understand, especially after having read other threads on CAF that deal with this election, that many members are one issue voters. I just can’t be a one issue voter.

I don’t know that I’d call that an instance of lack of intellectual curiosity. I think that is a lack of knowledge of policy terms, specifically a military policy term. Such lack of knowledge doesn’t bother me. Clinton may know the term but that doesn’t mean she has good military strategy. In fact her public record is that she has a terrible military mind considering the outcome of her efforts.

I do think Trump isn’t burdened by being limited to adhering to any particular principles. So in that sense he isn’t very intellectual. But I don’t think he is stupid. He seems pretty smart and pretty well informed about a wide variety of topics.

 

[exnihilo]

I don’t know what has gotten into the water to make people love Trump but it’s not just on CAF it’s everywhere. Maybe it’s his ads? Subliminal messages maybe? :hypno:

I think people are absolutely feed up with politics, including and especially identity politics and political correctness, in this country. I don’t think people love Trump so much as hate the politics. They see Trump as the only viable way to make change. He is the result of catastrophic political failure.

 

[Convert_in_99]

Can you be more specific than just corrupt? Personally I would like to hear more about Goldman Sachs, where many people have invested money.

Bring on the tapes!!!

OK now we are unfortunate, blind and deaf?

I’ve got to quit clicking on the news section here, but if Hillary wins (which I do NOT want her too) it will be four years of bashing us for not voting for Trump.

 

[Thorolfr]

Thank you for suggesting that any woman who did not immediately take out a ‘groper’ does not deserve to complain. You prove my point.

It sounds kind of like Donald Trump’s Jr. comment on women who can’t handle sexual harassment in the workforce, they should just become kindergarten teachers:

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump Jr. once suggested women who can’t handle workplace sexual harassment should become kindergarten teachers.

“If you have a guys’ place, you have a guys place,” Trump Jr., the Republican candidate’s oldest son, said in a 2013 interview on the “Opie and Anthony Show,” which resurfaced Thursday in a post by Buzzfeed. “I have a hard time letting go of that. Maybe I’m not gonna have a choice.”

One of the radio show hosts added that some women call that “harassment.”

“If you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, you don’t belong in the work force. You should go maybe teach kindergarten,” Trump responded.

cnn.com/2016/10/14/politics/donald-trump-jr-women-workplace/

 

[St_Francis]

Groping is rape! If you were his victim, you would think they were equally violating you.

Groping is ***NOT ***rape!!! That is soooo disconnected from reality or even of knowledge of the language that it doesn’t even make sense.

Two or three of the women claim he kissed them on the lips—is that equivalent to rape? Seriously?

One claims he’d walk into a dressing room when the beauty contestants were dressing and sometimes undressed—equivalent to rape?

 

[Jeanne_S]

Can you be more specific than just corrupt? Personally I would like to hear more about Goldman Sachs, where many people have invested money.

Bring on the tapes!!!

Re HC? Her picture is next to the definition in the dictionary

 

[gracepoole]

Groping is ***NOT ***rape!!! That is soooo disconnected from reality or even of knowledge of the language that it doesn’t even make sense.

Two or three of the women claim he kissed them on the lips—is that equivalent to rape? Seriously?

One claims he’d walk into a dressing room when the beauty contestants were dressing and sometimes undressed—equivalent to rape?

Unwanted groping is certainly sexual assault. I’d prefer not to have a president who is into sexually assaulting women.

 

[St_Francis]

The other Trump trait that is bothersome is his lack of intellectual curiosity. It’s beyond my comprehension that anyone running for President of the United States would not know what the term, nuclear triad, means. I understand, especially after having read other threads on CAF that deal with this election, that many members are one issue voters. I just can’t be a one issue voter.

Wow, I follow politics, etc., and I didn’t know what that term meant. I bet a lot of people don’t know what it means.

Trump is a businessman: he has spent decades building places and creating real jobs. There are probably a lot of terms he knows that you do not, because there are terms related to various fields which people in other fields don’t know.

Many people on CAF, as Catholics, do think that the issue of abortion is the #1 priority, as do I. But that doesn’t mean they are unconcerned about other issues. For example, I am really happy that the person who agrees with me on how to handle the Russians, the trade deals over the past decades, making sure that Americans are working before allowing non-Americans to take jobs, crime, and several other issues is also the candidate who is against abortion.

I have great sympathy for those who agree with the other party on issues other than abortion.

 

[St_Francis]

Unwanted groping is certainly sexual assault. I’d prefer not to have a president who is into sexually assaulting women.

There are even varying degrees of sexual assault. How many years would someone get for an unwanted kiss on the lips?

Yeah, we’ve already had a president who is into sexual assault, and I don’t want him back in the White House.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Thank you for suggesting that any woman who did not immediately take out a ‘groper’ does not deserve to complain. You prove my point.

They have the right to do anything including complain, but to be believed they must have evidence. That’s common sense as well as required by law. Fake sentimentality doesn’t cut it, sorry!

Are women incapable of bearing false witness? Does Duke Lacrosse case ring a bell?

 

[sallybutler]

Groping is ***NOT ***rape!!! That is soooo disconnected from reality or even of knowledge of the language that it doesn’t even make sense.

Two or three of the women claim he kissed them on the lips—is that equivalent to rape? Seriously?

One claims he’d walk into a dressing room when the beauty contestants were dressing and sometimes undressed—equivalent to rape?

I am going to assume that you did not feel violated when similar things happened to you.

 

[Convert_in_99]

Unwanted groping is certainly sexual assault. I’d prefer not to have a president who is into sexually assaulting women.

Yep.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I am going to assume that you did not feel violated when similar things happened to you.

Yep again.