Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

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queenofheartscv said:
Oh if Pence were the rightful nominee from the start, you bet you’d be hearing things about him, too. If not him. it’d be his wife, his children, his father, grandfather, what have you. Remember what they did to Hermain Cain, a solid guy but pushed out by a sexual scandal. This is not for the faint hearted. If anyone here on the forum is brave enough to run for president one day, unless they are democrat, wait and see the onslaught they’ll have to endure. It happens every time. They made Romney to be this guy who wanted to push granny off the cliff, who caused an employee’s spouse to die of cancer, who never paid any taxes. They will come up with anything and everything in order to win the election. Curiously, nothing ever sticks with hillary, nothing whatsoever. Her secret: the media is on her side.
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I agree. Trump is an easy target, but Hillary savaged Clinton’s accusers for pete’s sake, and Joy Behar called them tramps for involving themselves (is a rape accuser really involving themselves, Joy?) with a married man. To think Pence would escape unscathed is naive. Look at what they did to Romney. The democrats floated a made up story about his taxes, simply to hurt him. They knew it was false. It doesn’t matter, and doesn’t have to be true. Trump may be an easier target, but we could run a modern day Catholic Saint and they’d savage him or her with made up attacks. I can only imagine what they’d do to someone like St. Augustine.
 
DeniseNY said:
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New York Daily News article **1997:

**nydailynews.com/archives/gossip/bad-dream-donald-ends-settlement-article-1.785734
Settlement is a dirty word to Donald Trump, particularly when he’s been accused of breach of contract and sexual harassment. But the developer has decided that writing a check is the cleanest way out of an ugly trial. Last week, Trump settled a long-standing lawsuit with the American Dream Festival company, which claimed Trump had backed out of a deal to let it stage a beauty pageant in one of his Atlantic City hotels. The suit was also peppered with allegations that, in 1993, Trump made unwanted advances toward Jill Harth, a pageant exec who is now the wife of American Dream Festival head George Houraney.
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Maximilan_Kolbe said:
I agree. Trump is an easy target, but Hillary savaged Clinton’s accusers for pete’s sake, and Joy Behar called them tramps for involving themselves (is a rape accuser really involving themselves, Joy?) with a married man. To think Pence would escape unscathed is naive. Look at what they did to Romney. The democrats floated a made up story about his taxes, simply to hurt him. They knew it was false. It doesn’t matter, and doesn’t have to be true. Trump may be an easier target, but we could run a modern day Catholic Saint and they’d savage him or her with made up attacks. I can only imagine what they’d do to someone like St. Augustine.
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There weren’t any accusations of sexual misconduct leveled at Romney. He doesn’t have the reputation of a womanizer. I don’t think he’s been on Howard Stern to brag about his conquests (multiple times).

Romney is a family man.

Trump is deeply flawed and I never believed that this person would do anything to foster a culture of life. He doesn’t have anything in his past that says he will.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
There weren’t any accusations of sexual misconduct leveled at Romney. He doesn’t have the reputation of a womanizer. I don’t think he’s been on Howard Stern to brag about his conquests (multiple times).

Romney is a family man.

Trump is deeply flawed and I never believed that this person would do anything to foster a culture of life. He doesn’t have anything in his past that says he will.
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When Hillary Clinton insists I must “change my religion”, when Afghanistan’s army is falling apart, when the abandonment of Iraq gave rise to ISIS, when Russia is telling the U.S. to stay away in Syria, when Hillary turned Libya and Egypt over to terrorist organizations and diverted arms to Islamists in Syria, we’re worried about whether Donald Trump has, at times, been a boor?

When Clinton’s people want to destroy the Catholic Church from within, when they call Americans “deplorables”, “irredeemable”, “needy Latinos”, “taco bowl” voters, “Medieval” church, “rednecks”, we’re supposed to support that because Trump made crude remarks about loose women who follow stars around?

When the economy is in a shambles, the poor are getting poorer, the middle class is declining and manufacturing is leaving the country, we’re supposed to believe every accuser against Trump who remained silent for 30 years, and vote for the worst candidate who has ever run for office?

And when Hillary Clinton sells her country’s interests for money, we’re supposed to invite her to do even more of it?

No. If Trump is “deeply flawed”, Hillary Clinton is so far beyond that description that it’s ridiculous to even compare them. Not one voter should vote for her. Not one.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
There weren’t any accusations of sexual misconduct leveled at Romney. He doesn’t have the reputation of a womanizer. I don’t think he’s been on Howard Stern to brag about his conquests (multiple times).

Romney is a family man.

Trump is deeply flawed and I never believed that this person would do anything to foster a culture of life. He doesn’t have anything in his past that says he will.
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Who said it would be sexual accusations? Romney was rich, so they lied and accused him of tax issues they simply made up. The point is, when it comes to the left, to think anyone candidate will not have the reputation besmirched and that they won’t target an easy area of opportunity is naïve. It’s a power grab at any cost - if I have to sell my soul to the devil to get power, so be it.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Apparently the women already have Web sites.

Amazing coincidence … the timing with the election.
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I don’t think the timing is a coincidence.

I think it’s perfectly understandable that the stories would come out about now, after he said in the debate that he never actually did it.

That’s another whole issue, beyond whether he talked about it or did it. If he actually did it and said in the debate that he didn’t, that means he’s untruthful.
queenofheartscv said:
Given how wealthy Trump is, the women would have sued a long time ago if it were true. But no, they wanted to wait until after the tape came out. How timely. Remember the question at the debate: Mr. Trump, are you sure you’ve never done what you joked about doing? What a nice set-up! It’s war out there.
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Maybe not.

If they had come out with this before they might not have been believed. Bill Cosby comes to mind.

And they would have had to contend with big rich Donald Trump and his army of lawyers.
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
Who said it would be sexual accusations? Romney was rich, so they lied and accused him of tax issues they simply made up. The point is, when it comes to the left, to think anyone candidate will not have the reputation besmirched and that they won’t target an easy area of opportunity is naïve. It’s a power grab at any cost - if I have to sell my soul to the devil to get power, so be it.
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There wasn’t the same level of controversy at all about Romney, Republicans didn’t like him because he was too moderate. I voted for him, even though I was displaced by hurricane sandy. I got an emergency absentee ballot. But I remember the rhetoric that the Massachusetts health care law that he sponsored was just like Obama care.

Trump is awful.

Hillary is awful.

Less than a month left.

On a side note, Glen Beck actually had a good article about voting one’s conscience. It might be linked to on his Twitter page.
 
signit said:
I don’t think the timing is a coincidence.

I think it’s perfectly understandable that the stories would come out about now, after he said in the debate that he never actually did it.

That’s another whole issue, beyond whether he talked about it or did it. If he actually did it and said in the debate that he didn’t, that means he’s untruthful.

Maybe not.

If they had come out with this before they might not have been believed. Bill Cosby comes to mind.

And they would have had to contend with big rich Donald Trump and his army of lawyers.
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But he was sued in 1997. It was covered in the papers. People didn’t care.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
There wasn’t the same level of controversy at all about Romney, Republicans didn’t like him because he was too moderate. I voted for him, even though I was displaced by hurricane sandy. I got an emergency absentee ballot. But I remember the rhetoric that the Massachusetts health care law that he sponsored was just like Obama care.

Trump is awful.

Hillary is awful.

Less than a month left.

On a side note, Glen Beck actually had a good article about voting one’s conscience. It might be linked to on his Twitter page.
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The point isn’t whether Romney was a moderate, Trump is awful, or Hillary hates Catholics, it is that the left will make up any story they can to cast doubt in the electorate, which is why the claims that Pence is too squeaky clean don’t fly. It doesn’t matter if Pence has been a choir boy, all you have to do is put a story out there and the damage is done. That has no bearing on whether or not Trump or Romney were actually guilty, of course.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Sexual assault claim details:

thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/ny-times-gets-punked-fake-groping-victim-used-velvet-underground-song-describe-trumped-attack/

She took her story from a Velvet Underground song!
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:banghead:

The term being like an octopus is a common term for someone who is grabby in a sexual way. I’ve used that term myself, and I have never heard of the velvet underground.

Your article is also wrong that Mr. Trump was sued for sexual harassment in 1997 and settled for 6 figures.
 
meltzerboy said:
I think every Catholic, as well as non-Catholic, should read this post by Father Ruggero very carefully. It may serve to dispel certain erroneous notions.
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And yet, I have a Catholic friend who voted for Obama in college in 2008 based on “there’s more than one issue,” and now regrets that decision.
 
meltzerboy said:
I think every Catholic, as well as non-Catholic, should read this post by Father Ruggero very carefully. It may serve to dispel certain erroneous notions.
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It may but likely will not.

IMO, this is often used as justification to do as we desire, without giving serious consideration to the following part:

*35.There may be times when a Catholic who rejects a candidate’s unacceptable position even on policies promoting an intrinsically evil act may reasonably decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons. Voting in this way would be permissible only for truly grave moral reasons, not to advance narrow interests or partisan preferences or to ignore a fundamental moral evil: *

Note the emphasis on the word “may.” This implies possible, but not common. The Church defines grave for us. What the good Father did was clarify what the Catechism says, not suggest how loosely this can be applied, or whether or not it applies in this case (or ever has in history).

The Church is not going to say “vote for X.” As with most moral matters, She has given us AMPLE (name removed by moderator)ut on how to properly form and discern the right decisions. We still have free will, and there will always be Catholics who discern, just as there will always be Catholics who use the excerpt as a license to vote for who they really wanted anyway. There is no way to avoid the abuse of this wonderful guidance, but that is on the voter, not the Catechism. Ultimately God knows what is in their heart, and whether or not they were sincere, or simply hiding behind words on paper (the very issue with being too doctrinal and legalistic the Proper just spoke of - “see, technically, if you read the words, I am correct!”). God’s intent is more than words on a page.
 
meltzerboy said:
I think every Catholic, as well as non-Catholic, should read this post by Father Ruggero very carefully. It may serve to dispel certain erroneous notions.
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It may but likely will not.

IMO, this is often used as justification to do as we desire, without giving serious consideration to the following part:

*35.There may be times when a Catholic who rejects a candidate’s unacceptable position even on policies promoting an intrinsically evil act may reasonably decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons. Voting in this way would be permissible only for truly grave moral reasons, not to advance narrow interests or partisan preferences or to ignore a fundamental moral evil: *

Note the emphasis on the word “may.” This implies possible, but not common. The Church defines grave for us. What the good Father did was clarify what the “Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship” says, not suggest how loosely this can be applied, or whether or not it applies in this case (or ever has in history).

The Church is not going to say “vote for X.” As with most moral matters, She has given us AMPLE (name removed by moderator)ut on how to properly form and discern the right decisions. We still have free will, and there will always be Catholics who discern, just as there will always be Catholics who use the excerpt as a license to vote for who they really wanted anyway. There is no way to avoid the abuse of this wonderful guidance, but that is on the voter, not the Catechism. Ultimately God knows what is in their heart, and whether or not they were sincere, or simply hiding behind words on paper (the very issue with being too doctrinal and legalistic the Proper just spoke of - “see, technically, if you read the words, I am correct!”). God’s intent is more than words on a page.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Yup. Expected it. True or false, the Dems have been collecting these. Probably one a day until November 8. The last three will be two ten-year-old girls and one boy. :rolleyes:
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👍

Which is worse? A man who is stupid, offensive, a womanizer?
Or
Someone who has evidence of it and waits until the damage to the country is irreversible to release it?

Which one is worse? ( I know, they are both really bad)
But I have to choose number two, because that is manipulative deception which harms millions of people. This stuff could have been released a year ago when his head popped out of the hole. But no, they knew there was only one person they could beat: DonaldTrump.
 
goout said:
👍

Which is worse? A man who is stupid, offensive, a womanizer?
Or
Someone who has evidence of it and waits until the damage to the country is irreversible to release it?

Which one is worse? ( I know, they are both really bad)
But I have to choose number two, because that is manipulative deception which harms millions of people. This stuff could have been released a year ago when his head popped out of the hole. But no, they knew there was only one person they could beat: DonaldTrump.
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Not to mention insufficient time on anyone’s part to investigate it. But that was the plan all along. There will be more.
 
goout said:
👍

Which is worse? A man who is stupid, offensive, a womanizer?
Or
Someone who has evidence of it and waits until the damage to the country is irreversible to release it?

Which one is worse? ( I know, they are both really bad)
But I have to choose number two, because that is manipulative deception which harms millions of people. This stuff could have been released a year ago when his head popped out of the hole. But no, they knew there was only one person they could beat: DonaldTrump.
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Come on. Trump has been in the limelight for years and years. If anyone needed anything on his background, all they needed to do was look. Mark Shea a number of months ago had link to the many different troublesome trump things, including the sexual harassment case of Jill Harth.

People collectively decided to believe that Trump would be a good choice for president, for whatever reason.
 
Jeanne_S said:
I wasn’t necessirally referring to those on this forum.It was a general statement re the media,feminists,et all and last but not least HC! I don’t defend DT actions in any way,I just find it disingenuous coming from the left,all things considered.:rolleyes:
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I have to agree!!! All this outrage by the democrats is all fake considering their past
 
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