Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

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I am absolutely shocked that Donald Trum would let his passions run amok. Complete surprise to me. I mean, he was on TV and everything. He’s a celebrity. Shocking.
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The American people are dumb almost beyond belief.
When you think about it, that is the root of this whole problem and so many others.
The American people cannot think their way out of a paper bag.

Irony is striking:
in the age of faithless rationalism we might be the most intellectually flaccid people ever.
 
jtauke said:
I assume you think Bill’s accusers are just vicious evil attacks as well?
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Exactly, why can they be seen as victims, and heroes for being present with Trump pre-debate and then at the debate. But the women who are accusing Trump are seeing as HRC supporters.

This reminds me of the former FOX NEWS head guy, who recently left bc he was accused of making sexual moves on female anchors. People here, cried foul, that he was innocent til proven otherwise. Yet when more women brought accusations, everyone here who suppported him, ran away.

You can’t have it both ways
 
Ridgerunner said:
When Hillary Clinton insists I must “change my religion”, when Afghanistan’s army is falling apart, when the abandonment of Iraq gave rise to ISIS, when Russia is telling the U.S. to stay away in Syria, when Hillary turned Libya and Egypt over to terrorist organizations and diverted arms to Islamists in Syria, we’re worried about whether Donald Trump has, at times, been a boor?

When Clinton’s people want to destroy the Catholic Church from within, when they call Americans “deplorables”, “irredeemable”, “needy Latinos”, “taco bowl” voters, “Medieval” church, “rednecks”, we’re supposed to support that because Trump made crude remarks about loose women who follow stars around?

When the economy is in a shambles, the poor are getting poorer, the middle class is declining and manufacturing is leaving the country, we’re supposed to believe every accuser against Trump who remained silent for 30 years, and vote for the worst candidate who has ever run for office?

And when Hillary Clinton sells her country’s interests for money, we’re supposed to invite her to do even more of it?

No. If Trump is “deeply flawed”, Hillary Clinton is so far beyond that description that it’s ridiculous to even compare them. Not one voter should vote for her. Not one.
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Well said. 👍
 
chero23 said:
Exactly, why can they be seen as victims, and heroes for being present with Trump pre-debate and then at the debate. But the women who are accusing Trump are seeing as HRC supporters.

This reminds me of the former FOX NEWS head guy, who recently left bc he was accused of making sexual moves on female anchors. People here, cried foul, that he was innocent til proven otherwise. Yet when more women brought accusations, everyone here who suppported him, ran away.

You can’t have it both ways
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Bills accusers have not been silent all these years. You expect us to believe these women never said anything until now? I see another pathetic attempt.This interviewer claims this happened during an interview with witnesses around. Why has no one come forth to. validate this claim?
 
ShrodingersCat said:
Uh, who did HC rape? Your point makes no sense, BC isn’t up for election.
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No Bill is not up for election but he was President and I think it is safe to say a majority on the left think he was a good president. So now we are in a situation where two men are accused of the same behavior but one is seen as a good president but the other is seen as unfit for office. How does that make sense?
 
In the news:
In a letter to Trump attorney Marc E. Kasowitz sent Thursday, New York Times general counsel David McCraw wrote, of the request that the Times retract the story, “We decline to do so.”
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McCraw then laid into Kasowitz and his client, writing, “The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a ‘piece of ***.’ Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.”
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If the Trump campaign does proceed with lawsuits in this case, it would be a break from past practice, and it will give both the Times and the Post the opportunity to pursue discovery and request information on Trump’s entire sexual history, because Trump would have the burden of proving falsity and actual malice.
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money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/media/new-york-times-donald-trump-lawsuit-threat/index.html

As the response from the lawyer for New York Times noted, it’s difficult for Mr. Trump to claim that the Times has damaged his reputation since he’s already done that through his own words. And further, a suit would allow the Times to pursue discovery and “request information on Trump’s entire sexual history”. So I doubt that Mr. Trump is going to follow through with his threat to sue the Times.
 
Michael68 said:
Bills accusers have not been silent all these years. You expect us to believe these women never said anything until now? I see another pathetic attempt.This interviewer claims this happened during an interview with witnesses around. Why has no one come forth to. validate this claim?
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But your mind is already set. If their is proof that these women did state to someone as soon as it happened, you would still call them liars.
 
chero23 said:
But your mind is already set. If their is proof that these women did state to someone as soon as it happened, you would still call them liars.
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No, if there is there is video evidence, I don’t think anyone would call them liars. If it is simply their word, and there is circumstantial evidence that makes the likelihood suspicious, people will likely disbelieve them. Seems fair.

I’d say there are just as many on both sides willing to believe any story that paints their opponents in a bad light, even with evidence to the contrary.

Look at how many falsehoods get repeated on Catholic Answers, after the poster has been corrected numerous time. People on here defended Hillary’s email scandal by claims that they were edited, despite the fact that there is no evidence they were, and she tried to explain the emails during the debate. People believe what they want to believe.
 
oliver927 said:
No Bill is not up for election but he was President and I think it is safe to say a majority on the left think he was a good president. So now we are in a situation where two men are accused of the same behavior but one is seen as a good president but the other is seen as unfit for office. How does that make sense?
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Because the former is a Dem and the latter a Republica,don’t you know?:rolleyes::cool:
 
chero23 said:
But your mind is already set. If their is proof that these women did state to someone as soon as it happened, you would still call them liars.
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Apparently the woman who says Trump kissed on a plane forgot to look into the planes before she made up this lie. 30Yrs ago first class arm rests did not go up!!! Pathetic!!!
 
oliver927 said:
No Bill is not up for election but he was President and I think it is safe to say a majority on the left think he was a good president. So now we are in a situation where two men are accused of the same behavior but one is seen as a good president but the other is seen as unfit for office. How does that make sense?
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It doesn’t have to make sense.
It has to be
  1. a strong feeling
  2. popular
  3. entertaining
  4. my right
Those are sacred and the best grounds for making decisions nowadays.
 
Michael68 said:
Apparently the woman who says Trump kissed on a plane forgot to look into the planes before she made up this lie. 30Yrs ago first class arm rests did not go up!!! Pathetic!!!
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Kind of like the security guard to supposedly told Trump the beauty contestants behind a closed door were naked. If he had to tell Trump, that means Trump couldn’t see them before walking in. And neither could the security guard, so he couldn’t know they were naked either.

It’s just a crock.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
Katrina piersons little theory has been disproven with actual pictures from airplanes.
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Oh please, the Clinton Crime Cartel obviously paid Boeing to make a 1970’s replica of a plane so they could back up this woman’ s story. The plane has been hidden in a hanger for 2 years planning this exact week to release the pictures.

In fact, I bet Ms Pierson is really a democratic plant who was in on the whole thing or maybe she’s secretly working for Paul Ryan…

:rolleyes:
 
Ridgerunner said:
Kind of like the security guard to supposedly told Trump the beauty contestants behind a closed door were naked. If he had to tell Trump, that means Trump couldn’t see them before walking in. And neither could the security guard, so he couldn’t know they were naked either.

It’s just a crock.
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I suppose the security guard may be aware of the pageant schedule, women changing into bikinis are going to be naked in the process.
 
zaffiroborant said:
I suppose the security guard may be aware of the pageant schedule, women changing into bikinis are going to be naked in the process.
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And also had X-Ray vision. The story has too many holes thus far. Now if more information that can confirm the conveniently time allegations comes out, I am all ears. But unfortunately, the Clinton campaign and her reputation for lying every time she takes a breath are going to cast doubts on credibility and honesty, fair or not to the accusers.
 
The difference is this; the women accusing Bill have evidence. There is absolutely no evidence to support these women’s all the sudden accusations.
 
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